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[KalosCast]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

If it is Jan 2011, I sense another L4D2-style boycott.

Only if Bioware releases an announcement to the effect of "This was going to be DLC, but then we decided to charge you full retail price for it"

Assuming that the core gameplay doesn't change as much as it did between 1 and 2, then they already have the bulk of the technical work done. There's still level design, writing, voice work (one of the longest parts), character design, and new codex entries. Which, don't get me wrong, is still a TON of work, but there's a lot of things that they can re-use at this point, especially of core game design stays relatively unchanged.

[Felene]

Daeion wrote...

Felene wrote...

When is the last time Bioware rush anything?

All they do is postpone and delay to insure quality of the game.

In Bioware we trust!

ME2 felt a little rushed to me,

ME2 might felt incomplete because there must be expansion coming up...

When they plan for expansions, they cut the story in to separate piece.

I just hope they update more content for the Social Site, Mass Effect 2 avatar or achievements.

[Urazz]

I'm thinking it might be late 2011 at the earliest but I'm doubtful about that. Late 2012 would be the latest I think they can put it.



The combat system and classes are pretty much as good as it's going to get with only some tweaks and minor changes needed so they only really need to focus on designing levels and focusing on the story I think.

[shinobi602]

Urazz wrote...
 really need to focus on designing levels and focusing on the story I think.

Story and conclusion are already completed, according to an article I read a week or two ago. They've repeatedly said it won't take nearly as long to finish it because they don't have to worry about continuity into a next game. It ends in ME3, no branching paths or decisions to worry about. This dramatically cuts development time.

They actually said in their words they don't want to take as long to release ME3 as it took between ME1 and ME2.

And they also said they're happy with the graphics engine where it is, they won't be making any upgrades or anything.

Modifié par shinobi602, 05 février 2010 - 01:23 .

[Jzier]

Don't wait till 2012, we'll all be dead >.>

[Jzier]

K a little creepy that no one wanted to respond to that...

[ERJAK2]

screwoffreg wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

When has Bioware ever rushed a release? And I agree, where has the game been confirmed at a 2011 release?

Even if it was 2011, it would probably be the Winter of 2011, meaning that is about two years of development right there.  Now of course, we haven't acknowledged the possiblity it COULD be earlier, but I doubt it (as much as I may wish it!).

 It's a quote in wikipedia from a dev interview. I think.

[Kyale848]

Jzier wrote...

Don't wait till 2012, we'll all be dead >.>

lol, im surprised it took 4 pages for someone to bring that up. I expected that to be front page, and i dont doubt it will become some sort of meme as people start looking for me3

[Jigero]

Well they are already started work on ME3, the reason ME1 to ME2 took so long was because they basically revamped the game, but now they really don't have to do alot, Character animations and art for most of the characters has been done in ME2 and there is no point in upgrading those, can't really go any higher, they have a ton of art assets from the 2nd game that need little to no upgrading. Combat system is really good just needs a few tweaks here and there, maybe new AI. But yea they don't have to do as much work as they did in ME2

[Marcus Aurelius]

I agree with whoever said that they likely recorded all the dialog for the 3rd game, hell they had all the people there and probably had the script already written. They used people that voiced for doa for me2, such like the guy who did loghain and claudia black (for the quarian admiralty board) so I wouldn't be surprised if thats already down or very close

[Palpatine77]

Keep in mind that Bioware wants to release Mass Effect 3 before the end of the current console cycle. This seems to be shaping up to be a bit longer of a console cycle than usual, but still probably by fall of 2011 we might be looking at the next console cycle releases, and Bioware are commited to releasing ME3 on XBOX 360. Also, if they wait until end of 2011 or later, by then with next console systems out ME3 runs the risk of graphically looking like yesterday's news, so to speak. I think it'll be out early to mid 2011. Definately not longer than summer 2011.

[NvVanity]

I don't think the current console cycle is ending anytime soon. I recall reading a magazine article in 2008 saying the current consoles aren't becoming obsolete anytime soon. Most of them are going to experience upgrades though such as NATAL for the 360 and I believe there are rumors of a Wii HD version.

[Palpatine77]

NvVanity wrote...

I don't think the current console cycle is ending anytime soon. I recall reading a magazine article in 2008 saying the current consoles aren't becoming obsolete anytime soon. Most of them are going to experience upgrades though such as NATAL for the 360 and I believe there are rumors of a Wii HD version.

The typical life-span for a videogame console is 5 years. XBOX 360 was released Nov. 2005, making the system over 4 years old now. Normally at this stage Microsoft would be developing the next system already and we'd be hearing about it, but I think in large part due to the stifled economy (which experts think will remain at current levels throughout the year) we won't be seeing the next console this year. However, by fall 2011 the XBOX 360 would be 6 years old, and I can pretty much guarantee we'll be seeing the next console cycle beginning by then.

This is all good luck for the Mass Effect franchise, since this console cycle is lasting longer than usual we will be getting all 3 games in the saga on one console. But I do think Bioware will be trying hard to release ME3 before fall 2011.

[screwoffreg]

Palpatine77 wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

I don't think the current console cycle is ending anytime soon. I recall reading a magazine article in 2008 saying the current consoles aren't becoming obsolete anytime soon. Most of them are going to experience upgrades though such as NATAL for the 360 and I believe there are rumors of a Wii HD version.

The typical life-span for a videogame console is 5 years. XBOX 360 was released Nov. 2005, making the system over 4 years old now. Normally at this stage Microsoft would be developing the next system already and we'd be hearing about it, but I think in large part due to the stifled economy (which experts think will remain at current levels throughout the year) we won't be seeing the next console this year. However, by fall 2011 the XBOX 360 would be 6 years old, and I can pretty much guarantee we'll be seeing the next console cycle beginning by then.

This is all good luck for the Mass Effect franchise, since this console cycle is lasting longer than usual we will be getting all 3 games in the saga on one console. But I do think Bioware will be trying hard to release ME3 before fall 2011.

Fall 2011 is pretty ambitious, but I hope you are right.  If ME 2 is a seamless transition to ME 3, like Throne of Bhaal was for Baldurs Gate II, it might just take a little over a year.  Despite being  called an "Expansion", Throne of Bhaal was really a game in its own right.

I would wager at least a year and half if not the two year timetable.  There are so many conflicting quotes out there that we probably won't know until AT LEAST E3 this year, which is in June.

[gGs Dark Tide]

Not a chance before 2011 Q4.

[Turkeysock]

I am concerned! The world will end in 2012, I want at least one year of gave time before it ends so I can squeeze all the awesomeness out of it!

[DirtyVagrant]

screwoffreg wrote...
Fall 2011 is pretty ambitious, but I hope you are right.  If ME 2 is a seamless transition to ME 3, like Throne of Bhaal was for Baldurs Gate II, it might just take a little over a year.  Despite being  called an "Expansion", Throne of Bhaal was really a game in its own right.

I would wager at least a year and half if not the two year timetable.  There are so many conflicting quotes out there that we probably won't know until AT LEAST E3 this year, which is in June.

Possible, they might give the quarter they're aiming for. But even if Bioware gives any info regarding Mass Effect 3, I guarantee it will be vaaaaague.

[screwoffreg]

Turkeysock wrote...

I am concerned! The world will end in 2012, I want at least one year of gave time before it ends so I can squeeze all the awesomeness out of it!

This is a good point. The Mayans may have returned to destroy us, so if it comes out Q4 2011, we will only have about a month to play it before we die.

[Hathur]

I doubt it'll be out until Jan. 2012 roughly... 2 years just like Me1 to Me2. They've also got the new Swotor mmo to get out the door in the next year or so... perhaps even Dragon Age 2 to come out first as well (they've already said they're going to improve the graphics for it, so we know it's in a concept/design stage at least).



Also as the final chapter of the trilogy, they'll likely be aiming to make it even slightly bigger than ME2 .. more story, etc... so it might add a bit extra time to development... that and they'll want to make the ending truly epic and as close to perfect as possible.



Jan. 2012 is the earliest, in my personal estimate.

[screwoffreg]

Hathur wrote...

I doubt it'll be out until Jan. 2012 roughly... 2 years just like Me1 to Me2. They've also got the new Swotor mmo to get out the door in the next year or so... perhaps even Dragon Age 2 to come out first as well (they've already said they're going to improve the graphics for it, so we know it's in a concept/design stage at least).

Also as the final chapter of the trilogy, they'll likely be aiming to make it even slightly bigger than ME2 .. more story, etc... so it might add a bit extra time to development... that and they'll want to make the ending truly epic and as close to perfect as possible.

Jan. 2012 is the earliest, in my personal estimate.

Basically we are all just guessing by the closest thing to a true date was Casey Hudson saying they want to stick to the traditional timetable (which is two years) and that they don't want to take too long with it.

As for E3 this year, they said there would be "reveals", but I imagine that has more to do with the MMORPG than anything else.

[ItsFreakinJesus]

The majority of development time is done on the engine. The engine is already optimized in ME2, so there's no need to do a lot of work in that regard. A few tweaks here and there, and that's it. That means modeling and the implementation of dialog into the game is all that needs to be worked on, and that's something that can easily be done in a year as it's something that's generally done in the final year of development anyway.

There's nothing wrong with ME3 releasing next year if it does.

Palpatine77 wrote...

NvVanity wrote...

I
don't think the current console cycle is ending anytime soon. I recall
reading a magazine article in 2008 saying the current consoles aren't
becoming obsolete anytime soon. Most of them are going to experience
upgrades though such as NATAL for the 360 and I believe there are rumors
of a Wii HD version.

The typical life-span for a
videogame console is 5 years. XBOX 360 was released Nov. 2005, making
the system over 4 years old now. Normally at this stage Microsoft would
be developing the next system already and we'd be hearing about it, but I
think in large part due to the stifled economy (which experts think
will remain at current levels throughout the year) we won't be
seeing the next console this year. However, by fall 2011 the XBOX 360
would be 6 years old, and I can pretty much guarantee we'll be seeing
the next console cycle beginning by then.

This is all good luck
for the Mass Effect franchise, since this console cycle is lasting
longer than usual we will be getting all 3 games in the saga on one
console. But I do think Bioware will be trying hard to release ME3
before fall 2011.

Microsoft has no plans for a new console.  It's why they're releasing Natal.  This gen will be longer than ever, development is far too expensive for it not to be.

Hathur wrote...

I doubt it'll be out until Jan. 2012
roughly... 2 years just like Me1 to Me2. They've also got the new Swotor
mmo to get out the door in the next year or so... perhaps even Dragon
Age 2 to come out first as well (they've already said they're going to
improve the graphics for it, so we know it's in a concept/design stage
at least).

Also as the final chapter of the trilogy, they'll
likely be aiming to make it even slightly bigger than ME2 .. more story,
etc... so it might add a bit extra time to development... that and
they'll want to make the ending truly epic and as close to perfect as
possible.

Jan. 2012 is the earliest, in my personal estimate.

Star Wars: The Old Republic is being done by the Bioware studio in Austin, Texas.  Mass Effect is worked on by the main studio in Edmonton, Alberta.  Dragon Age was worked on in Montrael, Quebec.  Three different studios working on three different titles.  Their development isn't going to impact each other.

The general outline of the plot is already done.  Gameplay is done.  Graphics are done.  I can easily see this game dropping late next year.

Modifié par ItsFreakinJesus, 05 février 2010 - 08:11 .

[Faerlyte]

screwoffreg wrote...

Turkeysock wrote...

I am concerned! The world will end in 2012, I want at least one year of gave time before it ends so I can squeeze all the awesomeness out of it!

This is a good point. The Mayans may have returned to destroy us, so if it comes out Q4 2011, we will only have about a month to play it before we die.

At least I'd die happy.

[Turkeysock]

Faerlyte wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Turkeysock wrote...

I am concerned! The world will end in 2012, I want at least one year of gave time before it ends so I can squeeze all the awesomeness out of it!

This is a good point. The Mayans may have returned to destroy us, so if it comes out Q4 2011, we will only have about a month to play it before we die.

At least I'd die happy.

So would I my friend!

[sttm64]

for me i just hope they do a better job on the inporting saves, becauce ME2 has many bugs in that area. i kinda pisses me off. the fan, the consort, and so on.

[Fulgrim88]

Turkeysock wrote...

Faerlyte wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Turkeysock wrote...

I am concerned! The world will end in 2012, I want at least one year of gave time before it ends so I can squeeze all the awesomeness out of it!

This is a good point. The Mayans may have returned to destroy us, so if it comes out Q4 2011, we will only have about a month to play it before we die.

At least I'd die happy.

So would I my friend!

This.
While i'd hate to see them rush only because of some console cycle (which is highly doubtful with Microsoft developing a whole new system (Natal) upon 360 technology), rushing to bring it out before the world comes to an end would be courteous.

I'm not enough into game developing to be able to make any sort of realistic estimation, as to how much time is spared by not having to develop a new engine.
Even if they mostly focus on story, how much will they be able to complete in less than two years?
ME3 has to be BIG, i'd expect twice as much story and playtime as ME2 at the least, plus a lot of big decisions and alternatives. If theres no need for decisions to carry over into another game, they might as well give us as much opportunity to shape "our" end of the trilogy as possible.

TBH, the interview sounds a bit like "We'll release it faster because we can spare most of the work we put in ME2 and are not planning to improve much either". Now this might be pessimistic, but as much as i'm dying to play ME3 right know, i'd gladly wait (literally) till the end of days to have it perfect;)