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Caz Neerg

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When I get my "what would I actually do" playthrough ready for ME3, it is going to be genuinely hard to decide which romance option to go with. It was hard in ME1 too, but then it was hard because they were both so unappealing, here it is hard because if you treat them correctly, all three options are genuinely interesting and attractive characters. Tali is the epitome of cuteness, Miranda is a perfect mix of smart and cocky with just enough simmering insecurity, and Jack is the ideal fiery and combative match whose prickly exterior hides deep emotional need. For a bunch of guys whose lives revolve around video games, the writers here did an amazing job of capturing a variety of compelling female types.

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I loved Jack. I just loved Tali more. Had them both in my group through most of the game.

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Don't hate her.. but I find tattoos and piercings to be just as revolting in the game as they are in real life.



Quite honestly (although I try to stop myself) I make value judgments about people who have pierced anything beyond their earlobes and (I know this isn't fair) even a small tattoo. I think both demonstrate very poor judgment.. this is perhaps because I've had ample opportunity to see how poorly "body art" holds up to aging. An older person so adorned is almost comically horrific... dignity goes right out the window.



In real life an attractive woman can go from a "9" to a "4" just by revealing that she has "ink."



Flame away if you wish.. this is nothing more than my personal aesthetic preference, and my honest answer to the question posed in the OP.



Although actually I really LIKE the character Jack represents.. she is just repulsive to look at (in my opinion).

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Jack ended up as my Shepard's LI.

To me, Jack had the best back story out of the new characters. Along with the most touching loyalty quest in the entire game. It was actually heartwarming breaking down that hard exterior of her's, reveling her hurt,  vulnerable side.

And I have a thing for Tattooed chicks:whistle:

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I like Jack I just wish I could be her friend and show her people care without having to romance her.

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medlish wrote...

As a character I think she's really well made even though a bit cliche. As a person I would never want to speak to her though.


I don't really get the cliche'd thing... of the characters I think she's probably the least cliche'd. The cliche version of the character wouldn't be quite as complex... on the surface she's angry and distrustful (with damned good reason, however) but the inner workings seem a bit more complex. The cliche'd version of the character would have the romance option for her to be dangerous and aggressive... which actually makes her just use you and throw you away. Tali is more of the "innocent nerd" cliche (for a cliche'd character) than anything else...

As for her lips... Yeah, that put me off a bit too, though it may just be because she has a shaved head that
certain facial features seem more prominent. Now... Miranda, THEMS are huge lips.

Modifié par Society, 04 février 2010 - 10:45 .


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Jack was one of my favorite characters.



I think a lot of the jack hate (as little of it as there is) are from people that never actually talked to her, and just think she's an angry psycho ****.

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I thought she was interesting. ;) She and my female Shepard got along just fine, so I don't see why people have a problem with her.

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I liked Jack.... once I was able to give her a shirt.

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She is just annoying. When I first saw her I wanted to kill her asap (she called me a puss), but after doing her loyalty mission I could kinda see why she is so messed up.

She is still my least favorite crew member this time around.

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she is the most emotionally damaged of all the squadmates,what with the rapes,assaults torture and so on... i kinda like it when my shep ends up having a "healing" influence on her.i like her a lot even if at present i'm trying to get into miranda's er ... outfit

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noobzor99 wrote...

She is just annoying. When I first saw her I wanted to kill her asap (she called me a puss) ....


I loved that part.  Someone who finally said to a Paragon what all those who honestly prefer the Renegade choices have been thinking since the first stomach-churning blue text option from ME1.

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NICKjnp wrote...

I liked Jack.... once I was able to give her a shirt.


Heh. Her Loyalty quest was a priority just for this reason.

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Orogenic wrote...

Don't hate her.. but I find tattoos and piercings to be just as revolting in the game as they are in real life.

Quite honestly (although I try to stop myself) I make value judgments about people who have pierced anything beyond their earlobes and (I know this isn't fair) even a small tattoo. I think both demonstrate very poor judgment.. this is perhaps because I've had ample opportunity to see how poorly "body art" holds up to aging. An older person so adorned is almost comically horrific... dignity goes right out the window.

In real life an attractive woman can go from a "9" to a "4" just by revealing that she has "ink."

Flame away if you wish.. this is nothing more than my personal aesthetic preference, and my honest answer to the question posed in the OP.

Although actually I really LIKE the character Jack represents.. she is just repulsive to look at (in my opinion).


Knowing some rather old people (70's 80's) who actually have extensive tattoing (older gentleman and his wife) I disagree with the aging thing... When you're old and saggy, you're old and saggy. If you've kept in shape however, your tattoes, especially if they were well done to begin with (a lot of older people just have ****ty tattoes) they add a sort of character. I work at starbucks and a regular customer in his 80's has work over his entire upper body which I've seen a good chunk of and I think it's really interesting. As far as women I've met a few in their 50's who have both extensive tattoing and piercing and they look good for their age, as they've taken good care of both...

As a personal preference for attraction I wholly understand, as attraction can be fickle. As a way to judge a persons worth however, I think that is an incredibly shallow judgement, having known both very professional and well educated people with body art (I myself do not have any as I don't have much I want to get carved into my flesh) who are not only responsible in their professional life but are responsible wives, husbands, mothers, and fathers. As far as younger people most I know are well adjusted, and are just as likely to be good/bad people as those who do not. *shrug*

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Jack is the best squad member in ME2.

I <3 Jack!

Naltair wrote...

I like Jack I just wish I could be her
friend and show her people care without having to romance her.


I
agree with this. 

Modifié par jlb524, 04 février 2010 - 11:06 .


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Hid-nas-steez, as for realism, that award would go to Tali and Mordin imo, which is sort of ironic.

Edit, as a pet peeve I did not like any characters who don't wear proper space suits on missions in space (collector ship).

Modifié par Lord Atlia, 04 février 2010 - 11:08 .


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I really like Jack, she's horrifically clichéd, but pretty well thought out. Is she a lesbian love interest? I don't recall an option with her with my femshep. I'm on my second play through, this time with the stock male shepard, but Miranda's gonna be the one this time round.




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Honestly I didn't like Jack because she cursed so much it didn't seem to fit with anyone else in the game. No one cursed that much unless they were being attacked by the collectors (Joker). I have no problem with cursing I just didn't see a point in her doing it so much. I wanted to shoot her on the Purgatory if it would have let me.

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I want to have slumber parties with Jack and Kelly



Also her Warp Ammo power is the most useful loyalty power. Have her upgrade to squad warp ammo and you can tear through pretty much everything in the game.

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Lord Atlia wrote...


Edit, as a pet peeve I did not like any characters who don't wear proper space suits on missions in space (collector ship).


So basically everyone other than Garrus, Tali, and Shepard.

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Lord Atlia wrote...

Hid-nas-steez, as for realism, that award would go to Tali and Mordin imo, which is sort of ironic.

Edit, as a pet peeve I did not like any characters who don't wear proper space suits on missions in space (collector ship).


Tali is hardly what I would call "realistic"

Mordin too, but he's too awesome for me to care.

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I found her sort of irritating. Not as irritating as Morrigan but still mildly irritating. "Oooh killing stuff makes me hot I am so incredibly kooky"

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Jack going bare-skinned into a vacuum messed with me too, even if she's my favorite character... hell, her FACE is exposed except a breather.

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Jack rocks. i can understand that the majority of people don't "warm up" to her though. she not too outgoing and a little confrontational.

i think Zaeed is wicked too. And ERRRRbody hates his ass with a passion around here. They're just to GODAM scared of him i guess.

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I love Jack. She was the only squad member that I would invite over to my house. In fact, she's been there (fewer tattoos, longer hair, a leeeetle more clothing, and a slightly shorter rap sheet in RL). I would get out of bed to go get Jack a beer. I would bail Jack out of jail at 3 in the morning. I would help Jack hide the bodies.



Jack would sit up with you and watch you play video games all night. Jack would help you take out a spawncamping jerk in a shooter, and help you organize a massive raid, and give you awesome sex when it is all over. Jack secretly wants to collect Hello Kitty things. J, and will stay up with you to watch an MST3K marathon and get every single joke.



Yes, I, too, "dated" Jack in college. Apparently, I'm not over it :D At least the fantasy Jack doesn't do drugs.