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[vigna]

VettoRyouzou wrote...

vigna wrote...

Corben158 wrote...

What about Tali's feet and hands they look more reptilian than mammal

Yes, I keep saying she will look like a female Nightcrawler (from X-Men). Lighter skin, ears may be different, and possibly no hair, and no tail.  She also probably has strange calves.

Logic is flawed look up the Animal "3 toed sloth" Digits have nothing to do with speices.

I was saying she looked like somethin g else...not necessarily reptilian.  My yes wasn't strictly for reptile.

[jimmyjoefro]

WarmachineX0 wrote...

jimmyjoefro wrote...

I can't see Quarians looking anything like humans outside of their faces. They've got bird legs and 3 "fingered" hands.  Besides, the ME universe already has an attractive, near-human in appearance species.

Where exactly do you get bird legs? Quarian legs are hinged the same as humans, birds hing in the opposite directions. Quarians have two digits and a thumb, and two stubby digits on their feet, where as birds have three elongateted digits on the front, and a fourth on the back of their foot (or on the ankle for a weapon on non pearching birds). The only diffeance between human legs, and Quarian legs are quarians have a deeper recurve to their shins and have three less toes.

Though they do seem to stand on their tip toes in concept art (but doesn't seem like it ingame), this could be an evolutionary trait, as primal quarians may have needed to run fast, the deeper recurve to the shin (along with slightly flexable shin bones) to absobe the impact of running on hard ground and using just the toes for better balance control (keeping weight distribution in a striaght line from the head to the ground). Yea, so Quarian legs share nothing in common with "bird legs".


Now, if your using "bird legs" to say her legs are skinny, I would guess its personal opinion, but at least Tali's seem to be the same thickness as any of the humans.

I meant "bird legs" in appearance, not literal bird legs.  The chicken feet just add to it.

[AngryTigerP]

On that subject: okay, I have never seen it in artwork, but in regards to feet... I've noticed that EVERY Quarian in the game has a third toe. They have the two main ones, and then there's a small one on the exterior of the foot, almost like a thumb.



While it never appears in any artwork, I can't believe Bioware would leave these vestigial meshing remnants (I've seen people speculate that it is a leftover of the actual 3D modeling process) on the models so arbitrarily.

[Cosmicinator]

You mean this?

I hate that, what's with the long fingernails? They have no practical need for them! And what's with the bloody mark on the forehead? Does Tali have some sort of mystical horn?

Meh, that's bull.

Modifié par Cosmicinator, 05 février 2010 - 07:55 .

[Reclusiarch]

There, a better picture of something I found while using googlesearch. I think someone on deviantArt made it, but I could find it there to give proper credit.

Modifié par WinterJedi, 05 février 2010 - 07:59 .

[TuringPoint]

I think an important thing is that their eyes always look heavily slanted, like almost \\\\ _ / sort of slanted, just about 45 degrees.

Every Quarian who you see a profile of through the mask distinctly has a very long, shapely nose.  I think it's fascinating.

But people seem to ignore that and go for making "pretty anime chick" instead.  Big eyes, small nose... total BS.

Modifié par Alocormin, 05 février 2010 - 08:02 .

[karmakazi12]

Alocormin wrote...

I think an important thing is that their eyes always look heavily slanted, like almost \\\\\\\\ _ / sort of slanted, just about 45 degrees.

Every Quarian who you see a profile of through the mask distinctly has a very long, shapely nose.  I think it's fascinating.

But people seem to ignore that and go for making "pretty anime chick" instead.  Big eyes, small nose... total BS.

Everyone has their own image of Tali.

Whatever floats their boat *shrugs*

[Jerjud45]

Cosmicinator wrote...


Skin

The skin of Quarians is shielded from UV rays both by restriction to ships and their suits; this means that they will have no melanin in their skin. Melanin is the reason for colour in humans, and it is almost independent
of genes. It is the melanin concentration of the parents which determines the child’s skin colour, which is why an interracial couple will generate a “Hybrid child”. Quarians, having no need for melanin, will no longer have skin colours of a darker shade than a very pale white.

This may have already been commented on, but I don't have the patience to read all 10 pages of this thread to find out, so I apologize if this is a repetitive post.

I don't believe this statement on skin is true.  The Quarians have only been exiled to ships for 300 years, which is not nearly enough time for evolution to change any of the Quarian's features.  Changes like this take thousands of years, but if the Quarians did stay on ships for several thousand years, than yes, their melanin would eventually be close to non existent.

If your statement were true, then all black people living in Europe today should be white in 300 years, because they no longer need as much UV protection in Europe where people evolved with white skin, than they do in Africa where people evolved with much darker skin.  That's not going to happen in just 300 years.

[Tsarnecki]

Dunno if it was brought up in another thread but it is implied that the Protheans were observing early humans on Mars and had an influence on the Hanar...so, could it be possible that the Protheans dabbled in the evolution of other early species...including Quarian?

[TuringPoint]

You want to imagine her to be cute anime chick, I'm not going to tell you not to, but it's not supported by what's in the game.

[boogu168]

Garuda One wrote...

I can't help but think the one council member, the one who surprised Tali by not tell her that her father was presumed dead when she was on the post/council table? That her eyes were oddly larger. I always though because of her age maybe Quarian eyes get bigger?

Well anyway she looked like this to me, lacking the neck, majority the eyes are what connected for me. I'll try and find a image of her were you can see her eyes clearly

Agreed.

[WarmachineX0]

jimmyjoefro wrote...

WarmachineX0 wrote...

jimmyjoefro wrote...

I can't see Quarians looking anything like humans outside of their faces. They've got bird legs and 3 "fingered" hands.  Besides, the ME universe already has an attractive, near-human in appearance species.

Where exactly do you get bird legs? Quarian legs are hinged the same as humans, birds hing in the opposite directions. Quarians have two digits and a thumb, and two stubby digits on their feet, where as birds have three elongateted digits on the front, and a fourth on the back of their foot (or on the ankle for a weapon on non pearching birds). The only diffeance between human legs, and Quarian legs are quarians have a deeper recurve to their shins and have three less toes.

Though they do seem to stand on their tip toes in concept art (but doesn't seem like it ingame), this could be an evolutionary trait, as primal quarians may have needed to run fast, the deeper recurve to the shin (along with slightly flexable shin bones) to absobe the impact of running on hard ground and using just the toes for better balance control (keeping weight distribution in a striaght line from the head to the ground). Yea, so Quarian legs share nothing in common with "bird legs".


Now, if your using "bird legs" to say her legs are skinny, I would guess its personal opinion, but at least Tali's seem to be the same thickness as any of the humans.

I meant "bird legs" in appearance, not literal bird legs.  The chicken feet just add to it.

And again, what do you mean by bird legs in appearance, because they don't look anything like bird legs, or even chicken feet. Once again, quarian legs have ABSOLUTLY NOTTHING in common with with bird or chicken legs and feet. Or is this some weak attempt at trying to get people upset?

[jimmyjoefro]

Lol, they absolutely look like bird legs. The way the bottom legs are set so much further back resembles a bird leg, albeit in reverse. And you're in complete denial if you don't think their feet look like chicken's feet. I think I've even read where the developers have called them such.

I'm not trying to upset anyone. I'm sorry you're so defensive about this.

Modifié par jimmyjoefro, 05 février 2010 - 10:04 .

[Lord Badmagic]

Said it when the first game came out and I still maintain its a cross between a squid with a stunted duck's bill for a mouth.

[Kolaris8472]

The nose thing - I'd imagine evolving on a world with semi-helpful and symbiotic pathogens (and the necessity of animals assisting plants in distributing seeds) you would depend even more on your nose for inhalation than humans do, there would be less need for a defense mechanism to help keep harmful things out. Larger noses and nostrils would make sense.

Modifié par Kolaris8472, 05 février 2010 - 10:08 .

[vigna]

Fine...big noses are distinctive.

[Lord Badmagic]

But as they say, personality goes a long way.

I'd have Tali in my party anytime compared to someone like Ash.

Modifié par Lord Badmagic, 05 février 2010 - 10:14 .

[WarmachineX0]

jimmyjoefro wrote...

Lol, they absolutely look like bird legs. The way the bottom legs are set so much further back resembles a bird leg, albeit in reverse. And you're in complete denial if you don't think their feet look like chicken's feet. I think I've even read where the developers have called them such.

I'm not trying to upset anyone. I'm sorry you're so defensive about this.

I'm not getting defensive about it, I just don't see it. Birds feet sit way in front of the knee, a quarian's foot sits directly below the knee, just like a human's foot. I would love to see the comment where the Dev said that, as really, I just don't see it.

[Jake71887]

WarmachineX0 wrote...

jimmyjoefro wrote...

Lol, they absolutely look like bird legs. The way the bottom legs are set so much further back resembles a bird leg, albeit in reverse. And you're in complete denial if you don't think their feet look like chicken's feet. I think I've even read where the developers have called them such.

I'm not trying to upset anyone. I'm sorry you're so defensive about this.

I'm not getting defensive about it, I just don't see it. Birds feet sit way in front of the knee, a quarian's foot sits directly below the knee, just like a human's foot. I would love to see the comment where the Dev said that, as really, I just don't see it.

Devs said she had chicken's feet... Which has nothing to do with placement of the foot, but instead the shape...

[vigna]

it appears their calves go back more than a humans...so a backwards style toe is needed for balance.



Hence, chicken style feet...in meaning not texture.

[vigna]

Their abdomens also stick out more. Strange balancing act of physiology.

[AngryTigerP]

Jake71887 wrote...

WarmachineX0 wrote...

jimmyjoefro wrote...

Lol, they absolutely look like bird legs. The way the bottom legs are set so much further back resembles a bird leg, albeit in reverse. And you're in complete denial if you don't think their feet look like chicken's feet. I think I've even read where the developers have called them such.

I'm not trying to upset anyone. I'm sorry you're so defensive about this.

I'm not getting defensive about it, I just don't see it. Birds feet sit way in front of the knee, a quarian's foot sits directly below the knee, just like a human's foot. I would love to see the comment where the Dev said that, as really, I just don't see it.

Devs said she had chicken's feet... Which has nothing to do with placement of the foot, but instead the shape...

The exact quote was:

The other one that was interesting was Tali. Tali is kind of an
alternative character, she's an alien, she's mysterious, [you] can't
really see what she looks like. At one point I think we were
considering whether she should be a love interest in Mass Effect 1, and
I remember people saying, "no, people [aren't] gonna wanna have a
romance with a girl with chicken feet." But, chicken feet didn't really
bother  anyone. There was a lot of interest in Tali as a love
interest, and Garrus as well. It's kind of a testament to how strong
the individual acting ending up being, that people ending up looking at
these alien characters that are quite different, and start to develop a
relationship with them and like them enough that they would like to see
a romance develop.

From Javier's ME2 links. http://docs.google.c...xshh_17cgz8q443 , specifically.

... I miss Javier

Anyways, I'm just saying that the bit about chicken feet seems to have just been a generalized hand-waving comment on Casey's part to indicate that their feet are distinctly inhuman, not to try to give a permanent canon definition.

Modifié par AngryTigerP, 05 février 2010 - 10:32 .

[Kolaris8472]

vigna wrote...

Their abdomens also stick out more. Strange balancing act of physiology.

Are you sure about this? 

Not to be crass, but...Tali was the only female whose abdomen + armor didn't extend past her breasts in ME1. I never had en elevator scene to...inspect...in ME2, but I'd be surprised if it changed. 

[vigna]

Kal's certainly does...all the males..the females may not be as noticeable. I played the fleet last night again.

[WarmachineX0]

Jake71887 wrote...

WarmachineX0 wrote...

jimmyjoefro wrote...

Lol, they absolutely look like bird legs. The way the bottom legs are set so much further back resembles a bird leg, albeit in reverse. And you're in complete denial if you don't think their feet look like chicken's feet. I think I've even read where the developers have called them such.

I'm not trying to upset anyone. I'm sorry you're so defensive about this.

I'm not getting defensive about it, I just don't see it. Birds feet sit way in front of the knee, a quarian's foot sits directly below the knee, just like a human's foot. I would love to see the comment where the Dev said that, as really, I just don't see it.

Devs said she had chicken's feet... Which has nothing to do with placement of the foot, but instead the shape...

And I'm sure what ever Dev said it, could prolly benefit from an animal biology class. Even the arveage forum goer can google and see that the structures has nothing in common. Just because he's a Dev, doesn't actually mean he knows the differance between feet, or that he even works on the models.