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[FlintlockJazz]

Eumerin wrote...

In fact, Grunt (I think it's him) explicitly describes Quarians as not being "soft" during an early conversation in which he's comparing the various races (and how easy it is to cripple them).  It's possible that this is a reference to the environmental suits that they always wear.  But it's also possible that there's something natively tougher about the Quarian physiology and Grunt is referring to this.

Yep, it is Grunt who says that, he says that they are harder than humans and salarians, and he actually refers to both Quarians and Turians as being tougher than humans, indicating they may be on the same level of toughness.  Possibility that Quarians have an exoskeleton?  Maybe. 

The glowing eyes, if they had them back on the homeworld, indicates that they may possible operate at night or in dark places.  Their homeworld being described as arid indicates it could orbit a hot sun, possibility that it gets too hot during the day to do anything, requiring them to either be most active at night or at dawn/dusk, or possibly subterreanean.  Need more information before we can determine if this is the case however, as currently it's just heavy guesswork.

[Garuda One]

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Eumerin wrote...

In fact, Grunt (I think it's him) explicitly describes Quarians as not being "soft" during an early conversation in which he's comparing the various races (and how easy it is to cripple them).  It's possible that this is a reference to the environmental suits that they always wear.  But it's also possible that there's something natively tougher about the Quarian physiology and Grunt is referring to this.

Yep, it is Grunt who says that, he says that they are harder than humans and salarians, and he actually refers to both Quarians and Turians as being tougher than humans, indicating they may be on the same level of toughness.  Possibility that Quarians have an exoskeleton?  Maybe. 

The glowing eyes, if they had them back on the homeworld, indicates that they may possible operate at night or in dark places.  Their homeworld being described as arid indicates it could orbit a hot sun, possibility that it gets too hot during the day to do anything, requiring them to either be most active at night or at dawn/dusk, or possibly subterreanean.  Need more information before we can determine if this is the case however, as currently it's just heavy guesswork.

I hope it's not...

Modifié par Garuda One, 05 février 2010 - 12:43 .

[darth_lopez]

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Eumerin wrote...

In fact, Grunt (I think it's him) explicitly describes Quarians as not being "soft" during an early conversation in which he's comparing the various races (and how easy it is to cripple them).  It's possible that this is a reference to the environmental suits that they always wear.  But it's also possible that there's something natively tougher about the Quarian physiology and Grunt is referring to this.

Yep, it is Grunt who says that, he says that they are harder than humans and salarians, and he actually refers to both Quarians and Turians as being tougher than humans, indicating they may be on the same level of toughness.  Possibility that Quarians have an exoskeleton?  Maybe. 

The glowing eyes, if they had them back on the homeworld, indicates that they may possible operate at night or in dark places.  Their homeworld being described as arid indicates it could orbit a hot sun, possibility that it gets too hot during the day to do anything, requiring them to either be most active at night or at dawn/dusk, or possibly subterreanean.  Need more information before we can determine if this is the case however, as currently it's just heavy guesswork.

quarians have an endoskeleton not an exo-

He's probably refering to the suit or the make up of their bones as they and the turians are Dextro-amino  acid based organisms and it could be a trait of that group to have harder bone structure. However they are the only 2 dextro-amino orginisms that are sapient in ME.  all in the wiki folks.

nothing on their home world though


Edit:

The turians are no doubt to have the strongest skin though due to their Unique highly radiated homeworld and physical development of natural radiation shielding. or at least i'd think they'd have the strongest skin.

Modifié par darth_lopez, 05 février 2010 - 01:16 .

[cyvaris]

Garuda One wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Eumerin wrote...

In fact, Grunt (I think it's him) explicitly describes Quarians as not being "soft" during an early conversation in which he's comparing the various races (and how easy it is to cripple them).  It's possible that this is a reference to the environmental suits that they always wear.  But it's also possible that there's something natively tougher about the Quarian physiology and Grunt is referring to this.

Yep, it is Grunt who says that, he says that they are harder than humans and salarians, and he actually refers to both Quarians and Turians as being tougher than humans, indicating they may be on the same level of toughness.  Possibility that Quarians have an exoskeleton?  Maybe. 

The glowing eyes, if they had them back on the homeworld, indicates that they may possible operate at night or in dark places.  Their homeworld being described as arid indicates it could orbit a hot sun, possibility that it gets too hot during the day to do anything, requiring them to either be most active at night or at dawn/dusk, or possibly subterreanean.  Need more information before we can determine if this is the case however, as currently it's just heavy guesswork.

I hope it's not...

Ahh its like the inholy love child of a Predator and a Na'Vi. Get rid of the fangs add a nose and it would actually look decent.

[Jigero]

Well if tali ends up looking anything like her Voice Actor, Liz Sroka, I will be happy cause she is pretty damn good lookin. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2245907/

Modifié par Jigero, 05 février 2010 - 02:17 .

[T3hMerc]

Stop. Using. Science. This is a science fiction game, and that means "FICTION!" Fiction dictates that random things can and will happen. Fun read though.

[Lukertin]

T3hMerc wrote...
Stop. Using. Science. This is a science fiction game, and that means "FICTION!" Fiction dictates that random things can and will happen. Fun read though.

Here's an illustrative example for you:

I can shoot fire out of my fingers = fantasy
I can shoot fire out of my fingers because i have a genetic mutation that allows me to increase the temperature of my fingers so as to ignite the oxygen in the air = science fiction

capisce the difference?

[vigna]

Corben158 wrote...

What about Tali's feet and hands they look more reptilian than mammal

Yes, I keep saying she will look like a female Nightcrawler (from X-Men). Lighter skin, ears may be different, and possibly no hair, and no tail.  She also probably has strange calves.

[Tooneyman]

She looks like a sea monkey. Ohh ohh ahh!

[Proud Larry]

Has anybody mentioned that you can see a Quarian's nose and, depending on the angle, the top corners of their mouths for the helmets probably are not tinted to prevent you seeing in? I do not think the Quarian eyes give off light or are cybernetic, I think they are simply reflective or lustrous. They look like they have a slight sheen to them.

[T3hMerc]

vigna wrote...

Corben158 wrote...

What about Tali's feet and hands they look more reptilian than mammal

Yes, I keep saying she will look like a female Nightcrawler (from X-Men). Lighter skin, ears may be different, and possibly no hair, and no tail.  She also probably has strange calves.

Yeah but I don't count soft science. That type could be spread on toast.

[VettoRyouzou]

Garuda One wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Eumerin wrote...

In fact, Grunt (I think it's him) explicitly describes Quarians as not being "soft" during an early conversation in which he's comparing the various races (and how easy it is to cripple them).  It's possible that this is a reference to the environmental suits that they always wear.  But it's also possible that there's something natively tougher about the Quarian physiology and Grunt is referring to this.

Yep, it is Grunt who says that, he says that they are harder than humans and salarians, and he actually refers to both Quarians and Turians as being tougher than humans, indicating they may be on the same level of toughness.  Possibility that Quarians have an exoskeleton?  Maybe. 

The glowing eyes, if they had them back on the homeworld, indicates that they may possible operate at night or in dark places.  Their homeworld being described as arid indicates it could orbit a hot sun, possibility that it gets too hot during the day to do anything, requiring them to either be most active at night or at dawn/dusk, or possibly subterreanean.  Need more information before we can determine if this is the case however, as currently it's just heavy guesswork.

I hope it's not...

It can't be thart Quarian have visable lips like a human.

[VettoRyouzou]

vigna wrote...

Corben158 wrote...

What about Tali's feet and hands they look more reptilian than mammal

Yes, I keep saying she will look like a female Nightcrawler (from X-Men). Lighter skin, ears may be different, and possibly no hair, and no tail.  She also probably has strange calves.

Logic is flawed look up the Animal "3 toed sloth" Digits have nothing to do with speices.

[WarmachineX0]

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Eumerin wrote...

In fact, Grunt (I think it's him) explicitly describes Quarians as not being "soft" during an early conversation in which he's comparing the various races (and how easy it is to cripple them).  It's possible that this is a reference to the environmental suits that they always wear.  But it's also possible that there's something natively tougher about the Quarian physiology and Grunt is referring to this.

Yep, it is Grunt who says that, he says that they are harder than humans and salarians, and he actually refers to both Quarians and Turians as being tougher than humans, indicating they may be on the same level of toughness.  Possibility that Quarians have an exoskeleton?  Maybe. 

The glowing eyes, if they had them back on the homeworld, indicates that they may possible operate at night or in dark places.  Their homeworld being described as arid indicates it could orbit a hot sun, possibility that it gets too hot during the day to do anything, requiring them to either be most active at night or at dawn/dusk, or possibly subterreanean.  Need more information before we can determine if this is the case however, as currently it's just heavy guesswork.

First off, Gunt is going off of Okeer's memories/imprints, and is of course refering to the species in combat, so the toughness he is refering to is their always worn Eviro suit.  But, this is also just Okeer's opinion, not fact from a data base. I believe the imprint also list humans as the weakest spieces, which isn't true.

As for their homeworld, Tali goes into some detail about it. She wants to feel the sun of her home world warm her skin and see the sun rise without a visor.  Another thing she talks about is her home world has no insect life (removing any notiotion that they are bug like), and because of that, plant life was forced to use the animals to aid in their growth (also reducing the amount of bactiria and germs, why the have weaker immun systems even before the flotilla).

[Deuterium_Dawn]

WarmachineX0 wrote...



Grunt was refering to the spieces in combat. So, without a dout, he was refering to them in their suits, as I seriously dout Okeer has ever fought an unsuited quarian. Who knows, Okeer may have never fought anything other then a battle hardened migraint marine. And it was a fairly odd statment, as it seems everyone else in the galaxy finds them fragile. And, didn't he actually gernerize that humans where the most fraile species, not the salarians?

The Quarians have only been suited for 300 years, and Okeer was very old. He could have easily fought unsuited Quarians. And he said, "humans, salarians, asari, all soft" he didn't say any one was softer than the others.

[VettoRyouzou]

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

WarmachineX0 wrote...



Grunt was refering to the spieces in combat. So, without a dout, he was refering to them in their suits, as I seriously dout Okeer has ever fought an unsuited quarian. Who knows, Okeer may have never fought anything other then a battle hardened migraint marine. And it was a fairly odd statment, as it seems everyone else in the galaxy finds them fragile. And, didn't he actually gernerize that humans where the most fraile species, not the salarians?

The Quarians have only been suited for 300 years, and Okeer was very old. He could have easily fought unsuited Quarians. And he said, "humans, salarians, asari, all soft" he didn't say any one was softer than the others.

That argument kinda loose we don't know HOW old Okeer was as well asthe fact Quarians tend to live on the outer area of the galaxy so again ether way grunt testimony can be render invalid on both side as he was never specify over that he was referring to.

[deimosmasque]

Mammalian-Avian is what I'd say. Look at the platypus, a mammal that lays eggs. Who is to say that on an alien world, a avian species couldn't bear their young like mammals do.

[VettoRyouzou]

deimosmasque wrote...

Mammalian-Avian is what I'd say. Look at the platypus, a mammal that lays eggs. Who is to say that on an alien world, a avian species couldn't bear their young like mammals do.

quarian do not lay eggs Me2 tell you right after birth they are moved to a bubble till there old enough for a suit.

[WarmachineX0]

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

WarmachineX0 wrote...



Grunt was refering to the spieces in combat. So, without a dout, he was refering to them in their suits, as I seriously dout Okeer has ever fought an unsuited quarian. Who knows, Okeer may have never fought anything other then a battle hardened migraint marine. And it was a fairly odd statment, as it seems everyone else in the galaxy finds them fragile. And, didn't he actually gernerize that humans where the most fraile species, not the salarians?

The Quarians have only been suited for 300 years, and Okeer was very old. He could have easily fought unsuited Quarians. And he said, "humans, salarians, asari, all soft" he didn't say any one was softer than the others.

Actually, he listed humans as being able to brake with a slight finger pressure, then list the Salarians and Asari as being soft. As for before the they had to leave their home world, they still had to wear suits, with the exception of their homeworld, and a few colonies, they still had weak immune systems (though, not as bad, Turian illnesses were still fatale to them). You can actually question Tali about it, she'll tell you that it wasn't the exile on starile ships that cause their weak immune system, they have always had it, and the ships just made it worst.

[Majpain007]

Kwonnern wrote...

I'm thinking light purple/pinkish skin.

This with white with a hint of purple for eyes.

Man that first picture really kills any kind of tali romance for me lol

[VettoRyouzou]

Majpain007 wrote...

Kwonnern wrote...

I'm thinking light purple/pinkish skin.

This with white with a hint of purple for eyes.

Man that first picture really kills any kind of tali romance for me lol

Do not worry Quarians have lips like a human quote the book Accession.

[Jigero]

Proud Larry wrote...

Has anybody mentioned that you can see a Quarian's nose and, depending on the angle, the top corners of their mouths for the helmets probably are not tinted to prevent you seeing in? I do not think the Quarian eyes give off light or are cybernetic, I think they are simply reflective or lustrous. They look like they have a slight sheen to them.

no they actually glow, if you stare them, they kinda look like they are burning, but I think thats due to the glow of the eyes reflecting off the varrious gasess in the face mask.


But also on a side note did any one catch the new feed on Illium for Volus and Quarians, that a prodceedure allows them to lose their suit but it only has a 40% sucess rate?

Modifié par Jigero, 05 février 2010 - 02:56 .

[Majpain007]

IMO I think BW hasn't really had a set look with the Quarians I think their still deliberating on how they should look. Hopefully they show us in ME 3.

[deimosmasque]

VettoRyouzou wrote...

deimosmasque wrote...

Mammalian-Avian is what I'd say. Look at the platypus, a mammal that lays eggs. Who is to say that on an alien world, a avian species couldn't bear their young like mammals do.

quarian do not lay eggs Me2 tell you right after birth they are moved to a bubble till there old enough for a suit.

Actually that was my point.  The Quarians look Avian... yet avians lay eggs, the Quarians do not.  The platypus is a mammal that lays eggs.  The Quarians are a Avian race that reproduces mammalian.

[Hipolymerase]

I don't think Grunt was referring to their enviro-suits when he said quarians were not as soft as humans. If he was, then presumably he was referring also to armored asari, humans, and salarians? And I, at least, would say the armor we've seen for them so far looks thicker and tougher than quarian suits. Further, he leads into this discussion by describing how far he had to stick his finger into a human to break the spine - presumably he didn't mean he could poke a finger through armor, but just through human/asari/salarian flesh. Then turians would require some effort with a blade, while quarians are somewhere in between. If he was referring to the armored forms of all of these creatures, presumably they'd all be pretty tough.



I suppose it could go either way, but I like to think they have some kind of armor.



Regarding luminous eyes - I think they're quite possible. There are deep-sea fishes with luminous eyes (not reflective, like those of cats, but genuinely luminous).



Regarding skin tone - I think pale isn't unreasonable from a design perspective, at least. Regarding natural selection, I think the OP was referring to the human body's tendency to build up pigment in response to sunlight - hence, a human, always clothed, would likely be lighter than one who spent their life in sunlight. That said, it also seems unlikely that there would be an evolutionary pressure to be pale, excepting the possibility that skin pigments in quarians may, like in humans, have a role in radiation protection, and that in an environment where there is no radiation to avoid, those quarians that do not waste energy making pigments would be fitter than those that did. Look, for instance, at cave creatures, which tend to be pale pretty much across the board. That said, that's presumably a quite weak evolutionary pressure, and a mere 300 years is unlikely to change the species that much.



I see no reason to assume they are mammals. They have breasts, which, if we presume they are for lactation, carries some mammal traits along (presumably if they nurse they are altricial - their young are born relatively helpless and are nursed for a long period). Other than that, though, I see no reason to assume they have any other mammalian qualities.



Stepping away from the science, if I were to develop a design for them (and I'm trying), I would try to make them something like desert reptomammals, with thickened skin (so not plates like a turian so much as rhinoceros-like hide). From a design perspective I'd also want to make them look as much like geth as possible.