Ok so on my 3rd time through. First time was an me1 import and had no paragon issues....everyone loyal and everyone alive at the end. 2nd playthrough both zaeed and jack unloyal and jack died. ( was partyly renegade). Started a 3rd time for full paragon and zaeed is still unloyal plus jack as well. Full paragon bar still couldnt get her back. I switched my passive from +75% to +100% (shock trooper) and got jack back to loyal. May have to try this with an earlier save to see if i can get zaeed.... not sure if i even care about him tho heh
Charming Jack to be loyal again?
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SikamikanicoLi
, févr. 04 2010 10:44
#26
Posté 11 juin 2010 - 05:28
class: Soldier
Ok so on my 3rd time through. First time was an me1 import and had no paragon issues....everyone loyal and everyone alive at the end. 2nd playthrough both zaeed and jack unloyal and jack died. ( was partyly renegade). Started a 3rd time for full paragon and zaeed is still unloyal plus jack as well. Full paragon bar still couldnt get her back. I switched my passive from +75% to +100% (shock trooper) and got jack back to loyal. May have to try this with an earlier save to see if i can get zaeed.... not sure if i even care about him tho heh
Ok so on my 3rd time through. First time was an me1 import and had no paragon issues....everyone loyal and everyone alive at the end. 2nd playthrough both zaeed and jack unloyal and jack died. ( was partyly renegade). Started a 3rd time for full paragon and zaeed is still unloyal plus jack as well. Full paragon bar still couldnt get her back. I switched my passive from +75% to +100% (shock trooper) and got jack back to loyal. May have to try this with an earlier save to see if i can get zaeed.... not sure if i even care about him tho heh
#27
Posté 11 juin 2010 - 05:53
If I understand correctly it's not your Paragon or Renegade score directly, it's the percentage of available Paragon/Renegade points at the time that the check is based on. I have played several times with my maxed out Paragon ME1 playthrough and had no trouble, but on a straight start from scratch I got caught by this and there was no way to fix it - I was able to squeak Jack through even though she was not loyal as mentioned above.
#28
Posté 11 juin 2010 - 06:22
As a soldier, I managed to get keep both loyal to me when they had the catfight (i.e had the paragon choice when they fought). I was wearing one of the DLC armour that gives you a 10% bonus to negotiation skills, but didnt max out my paragon meter. First playthrough and havent played or had a ME1 save game.
Very curious to know how this works, because I started as a vanguard, and still managed to get them both loyal to me without the armour, but with the 100% passive thing...
Very curious to know how this works, because I started as a vanguard, and still managed to get them both loyal to me without the armour, but with the 100% passive thing...
#29
Posté 11 juin 2010 - 07:41
It doesn't have anything to do with the paragon meter. It has to do with the number of paragon points you have received versus how many were paragon points were available. (Same goes for renegade checks.) You need to have a certain percentage of points in relation to how many you could have had up until that point in the game.
Which is why people have an easier time meeting the persuasion check when they import an ME1 game because you get a bonus on your paragon/renegade points that give you more leeway to miss a point here and there and still meet the percentage needed.
Which is why people have an easier time meeting the persuasion check when they import an ME1 game because you get a bonus on your paragon/renegade points that give you more leeway to miss a point here and there and still meet the percentage needed.
#30
Posté 12 juin 2010 - 12:54
I've never had trouble keeping both of their loyalty on any of my playthroughs, and I rarely choose full paragon or renegade paths. I do, however, max out my passive class talent as soon as possible. That must be the reason why this part of the game is never difficult for me.
#31
Posté 07 mars 2012 - 02:59
Same here...Kaosu Haze wrote...
I'm almost certain it's bugged. <br />
Full Paragon: Could convince Legion&Tali to work together, but not Miranda&Jack.





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