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[Kudara]

Just because the Citadel can control the other relays does not mean they would shut down if it were destroyed. Real world comparison, I can set up a master server to allow me to control several other servers, yet if something happens to it those servers do not stop doing whatever they were doing.



Being able to override and control does not conversely mean that something will quit working just because the master relay disappears. In fact if they work like switches then I'd expect them to poll and elect a new master relay.



I'd save Earth or any other race's homeworld over the Citadel.

[DaVanguard]

if the turian councilor in on the statiion ill let it burn its got about 13 millin people on it

Pros(Destroyed): 11 billion saved

Cons: center of goverment lost, relay destroyed or damaged

[vashts1985]

4 people > than a couple hundred trillion or more?



i think not

[Regono]

The citadel contains the information of every world that belongs to a citadel species.

[Mallissin]

manwiththemachinegun wrote...

As a subquestion.

Why haven't we been able to vist Earth yet on a quest? Sure, zipping around saving the galaxy is awesome. But you'd think we'd at least be able to poke around future Earth for a while. It'd be interesting to see.

Because probing Uranus is more important.

[GnusmasTHX]

Mallissin wrote...

manwiththemachinegun wrote...

As a subquestion.

Why haven't we been able to vist Earth yet on a quest? Sure, zipping around saving the galaxy is awesome. But you'd think we'd at least be able to poke around future Earth for a while. It'd be interesting to see.

Because probing Uranus is more important.

Rofl.

And Earth is generally unimportant. The seat of the Systems Alliance is Arcturus Station, not Earth. Then again, we're not allowed there, either.

[Mallissin]

Vigil says that the Reapers can use the Citadel to shut down the other mass relays but never really says it's required for the others to work. So, perhaps Kudara's metaphor is accurate. But then again, the Protheans only learned enough to make a mini-relay. Perhaps they don't know the full picture.

3:14 @

Even if the mass relays stopped working if I let the Citadel get destroyed to save Earth, I can still fly between solar systems by holding down left click towards them for a few seconds. I'm sure it would only take a minute or two to fly between star clusters using the same method. I'm pretty sure this isn't Reaper technology.

So, don't worry. The Universe will move on. Unless, of course....the Citadel controls our mice.

Modifié par Mallissin, 05 février 2010 - 06:44 .

[Kuari999]

Citadel would fall, simply because not only does losing Earth weaken humanity, it'd probably put them almost on a Quarian level of pain to their population. Losing the Citadel costs a lot of lives, BUT at least pretty much all the races could recover.

[screwoffreg]

I think humanity will be the one to bear the biggest sacrifice. The Reapers see the humans as a hated enemy and a useful tool. They will strike them the hardest.

[GnusmasTHX]

screwoffreg wrote...

I think humanity will be the one to bear the biggest sacrifice. The Reapers see the humans as a hated enemy and a useful tool. They will strike them the hardest.

For reals.

We'll waste precious resources helping the Citadel, but the Reapers first main target will be us, anyway.

[Nigawatts]

If the Citadel is destroyed the Mass Relay's won't work, END OF DISCUSSION.



The Reapers have dedicated their entire plan of genocide on taking control of the Citadel, which in turn lets them control all the Mass Relay's, which in turn lets them isolate everyone from everyone else so they can pick them off one by one.



Now I know there is this whole "Well just cuz the Citadel controls the Mass Relays doesn't mean the MR's would stop working if the Citadel was destroyed!" YES IT ****ING DOES! It's a video game, of course this is going to be the draw back if you blow up the Citadel. You can't compare the amount of lives that will be destroyed since the Citadel doesn't even have 10% of Earth's population, or the psychological impact.



No the choice is either: Destroy Shepard's Homeworld (well...depending on origin), and turning all the Human's into nomads/refugees. Or Destroy the Citadel, which will turn the clock back a few thousand years and end Galactic Civilization as we know it.



IMO blowing up the Citadel is still the correct move, since Galactic Civilization as we know it is just one big lie. The Reapers have molded us to their technology. The Geth are correct in the fact that you must find your own future, not one given to you.

[skyferret]

Oh, tough question. I'm not really sure what I'd do. Obviously, Earth is kinda the homeworld, but the fallout if the Citadel falls is also an important factor. If this popped up I'd probably spend a couple minutes on it like I did when picking Kaidan or Ashley to die.

[tmp7704]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

And Earth is generally unimportant. The seat of the Systems Alliance is Arcturus Station, not Earth. Then again, we're not allowed there, either.

Arcturus Station has population of 45.000  It's headquarters because it's in convenient choke point but is basically just Pentagon+Senate in space. A mini-Citadel if you will.

[Thanatos5150]

Let's do this In-character. Ish. Kinda.

"I've flown around the Galaxy for you. I've defeated Sovergin. I've stopped the Collectors. I've sent many humans into the fray to die alongside you as Brothers in Battle, and now you ask that only Humans suffer, to bear the yoke of the Galaxy? My Brothers, let ALL species feel the scars of this War. Humans have fought for you all for far too long. We made it to the Council for our Sacrifice - though you did not raise us up. We gave eight good ships, filled with good men and women to save three figureheads. He went into the Centre of the Galaxy alone to save ourselves, and nobody here would help us.
This is our fight. The Galaxy's. The Galaxy will feel its scars."

Modifié par Thanatos5150, 05 février 2010 - 06:56 .

[GnusmasTHX]

tmp7704 wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

And Earth is generally unimportant. The seat of the Systems Alliance is Arcturus Station, not Earth. Then again, we're not allowed there, either.

Arcturus Station has population of 45.000  It's headquarters because it's in convenient choke point but is basically just Pentagon+Senate in space. A mini-Citadel if you will.

Yeah, so it's safe to say that if Shepard were able or needed to travel anywhere, it would be Arcturus Station. Until of course the final battle, where the Reapers have already mowed down Arcturus station and have made their way to Earth.

[LemuresXL]

An entire planet or a giant space station? Pretty damn easy call. Not to say losing the Citadel wouldn't be huge, and damn terrible.. a lot of life on there.

[masterp1975]

If Udina and Ashley are on Earth at the time.... How could I not pass up that opportunity?

[tmp7704]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Yeah, so it's safe to say that if Shepard were able or needed to travel anywhere, it would be Arcturus Station. Until of course the final battle, where the Reapers have already mowed down Arcturus station and have made their way to Earth.

The point is rather, Earth is nowhere near "unimportant" compared to that. It is both heart and main body of humankind, with the other colonies supplying its further growth.

[GnusmasTHX]

tmp7704 wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Yeah, so it's safe to say that if Shepard were able or needed to travel anywhere, it would be Arcturus Station. Until of course the final battle, where the Reapers have already mowed down Arcturus station and have made their way to Earth.

The point is rather, Earth is nowhere near "unimportant" compared to that. It is both heart and main body of humankind, with the other colonies supplying its further growth.

Exactly, it is those things, but Shepard will never need to go there. His story is conflict and war, his destination will more likely be Arcturus Station. Which has both the leadership, and the machines of war.

Earth is almost too pedestrian a place to be for Shepard. I really see no reason why Shepard would go there in his planning-for-Reaper-invasion stages. But rather after Arcturus has fallen, the fight will be above Earth.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 05 février 2010 - 07:05 .

[tmp7704]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Exactly, it is those things, but Shepard will never need to go there. His story is conflict and war, his destination will more likely be Arcturus Station. Which has both the leadership, and the machines of war.

Earth is almost too pedestrian a place to be for Shepard. I really see no reason why Shepard would go there in his planning-for-Reaper-invasion stages. But rather after Arcturus has fallen, the fight will be above Earth.

Ahh okay i misunderstood what you meant by unimportant there. When viewed this way yes, it makes sense to call it such.

[GnusmasTHX]

tmp7704 wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Exactly, it is those things, but Shepard will never need to go there. His story is conflict and war, his destination will more likely be Arcturus Station. Which has both the leadership, and the machines of war.

Earth is almost too pedestrian a place to be for Shepard. I really see no reason why Shepard would go there in his planning-for-Reaper-invasion stages. But rather after Arcturus has fallen, the fight will be above Earth.

Ahh okay i misunderstood what you meant by unimportant there. When viewed this way yes, it makes sense to call it such.

Yeah, probably should've specified.

For some reason I want to see Earth annihilated, and left a smoldering rock. For the dramatic effect AND special effects. Plus you get the whole, "We warned you, but you wouldn't listen and we STILL saved your asses" angle going with the rest of the other races that didn't help. (Pretty much the Citadel.)

It'd look cool. Plus I'd just move to Terra Nova or Eden Prime.

[Thalinor00]

I am a Paragon oriented player and I say let it burn. If it happens then likely it will be my second council I let die. They say these kinds of decisions get easier every time you make them. Hell I’ll press the red button myself; I can take the Renegade point hit with all the Paragon points I have accrued.

[Wugger]

I can see that happening for sure, and I see the paragon one being citidel and the renegade being Earth.

I, however, see it differently. Earth has a vastly larger population, so I'd save that.

[vyvexthorne]

Isn't the earth in terrible condition though?... I got the feeling it was. I may be totally off on that.

I figured earths resources were basically used up.. Most earthlings were colonizing other planets or had joined the military to try to better their situation.

I guess basically for me it would just come down to population.. whoever has the lowest loses.

[HAGA NAGA]

hell yeah. the council blows. they second guess every single bit of valuable intel and/or disregard it entirely. typical governmental entity. should die regardless of the choice you are presenting. power to the people, death to the government.