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[Gethforceone]

I'd guess 23-25ish.

[Dominus5412]

If she's not over 23, Shepard's a bit of a cradle robber.

[Jackal904]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

Thanks for the support, I'm glad you like her. I'm guna go out on a limb here and say your first favorite LI is Liara .

Damn how'd you know?
But dont tell anyone, its a secret!

It was wierd to me though, they are like total opposites.

Ha yeah, at least ME1 Liara. Liara in ME2 has become quite the badass biotic herself.

Dominus5412 wrote...

If she's not over 23, Shepard's a bit of a cradle robber.

Ya I think she's somewhere in the range of 21 to 23. If I had to bet money on a single number though I'd say she's 21.

Modifié par Jackal904, 04 avril 2010 - 01:43 .

[Mondo47]

Gethforceone wrote...

achegal wrote...

It´s really difficult to estimate how old she is on the one hand there r the hints with the Ascension-program which indicates that she´s not very old on the other hand she has this huge criminal record and been in a couple of prisons.

She was also in cryo for awhile.

Considering how much some prisoners were worth to Warden Kuril, it's not inconceivable that she was in there semi-permanently considering how she'd off people for messing with her. You want a rep in the system, you try and take down the biggest people you dare... and some scrawny little ****up of a girl is going to be a temptation to every new scumbag in there that didn't know what kind of **** she was capable of. Life with Jack in Purgatory must have been like an episode of Oz on crack, with her yoyoing in and out of cryo every time she snuffed some douchebag or seven...

[adriano_c]

Perhaps Jack was the 'Alvarez' of Purgatory.

[Dominus5412]

adriano_c wrote...

Perhaps Jack was the 'Alvarez' of Purgatory.

That's insulting. Jack is the Ryan O'Reilly of Purgatory.

[royceclemens]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

Thanks for the support, I'm glad you like her. I'm guna go out on a limb here and say your first favorite LI is Liara .

Damn how'd you know?
But dont tell anyone, its a secret!


It was wierd to me though, they are like total opposites.

Ah, I enjoy the Liara myself.  My FemShep is staying faithful to that girl, as I think we're gonna see depths that we weren't privvy to prior.  Welcome!

But going back to the subject at hand, I think Jack's age and origin are going to be very important going into ME3. provided, of course, she's in the game at all.

They've foreshadowed a ton with almost all of the characters, so much so that I'm drawing a whole bunch of silly conclusions, from Miranda's father to Garrus' inevitable betrayal (I think) to the genophage cure to Geth/Quarian peace talks.

With Jack, though, it's a little more hazy, given that straight answers to the questions you ask kind of aren't her thing.  But that adds to the appeal, I think, as we have no idea where she's gonna go.

[adriano_c]

Dominus5412 wrote...

adriano_c wrote...

Perhaps Jack was the 'Alvarez' of Purgatory.

That's insulting. Jack is the Ryan O'Reilly of Purgatory.

Good call!

[Mondo47]

adriano_c wrote...

Perhaps Jack was the 'Alvarez' of Purgatory.

For the amount of fear she'd be capable of bringing to bear, I'd put her more in the Adebisi tier of prisoners I don't think there was anyone in the Emerald City that had a record anything near Jack's, so she'd have to be an amalgam of hardcases and lunatics.

Crap, now I want to write something about Jack inside...

Modifié par Mondo47, 04 avril 2010 - 02:06 .

[Jackal904]

Somebody1003 wrote...

@Mondo47

I just have to say that avatar is awsome!

When does she make that face?

Right at the end of the biotic bubble section in the final mission where she blasts the collectors right before they close the door.

royceclemens wrote...

But going back to the subject at hand, I think Jack's age and origin are going to be very important going into ME3. provided, of course, she's in the game at all.

I forget which dev it was but one of them said that all ME2 characters will be in ME3. The person did not imply anything about whether or not they will be squadmates in ME3.

Modifié par Jackal904, 04 avril 2010 - 02:09 .

[Dominus5412]

I was going to say Adebisi originally, but Jack survives like Ryan does. And Jack actually has a heart, like Ryan.

Modifié par Dominus5412, 04 avril 2010 - 02:08 .

[Mondo47]

Jackal904 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

@Mondo47

I just have to say that avatar is awsome!

When does she make that face?

Right at the end of the biotic bubble section in the final mission where she blasts the collectors right before they close the door.

Yeah... "In theory any biotic could do it," eh, Miranda? In theory a lobster can solve a rubik's cube too...

So what were you going to do exactly if Shepard hadn't broken up that fight, other than bleed out?

[adriano_c]

Mondo47 wrote...

Yeah... "In theory any biotic could do it," eh, Miranda? In theory a lobster can solve a rubik's cube too...

So what were you going to do exactly if Shepard hadn't broken up that fight, other than bleed out?

Considering what Adebisi did to Schibetta, I'd imagine one of those sound file mash-ups posted in here would be appropriate in that scenario.

[Mondo47]

adriano_c wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Yeah... "In theory any biotic could do it," eh, Miranda? In theory a lobster can solve a rubik's cube too...

So what were you going to do exactly if Shepard hadn't broken up that fight, other than bleed out?

Considering what Adebisi did to Schibetta, I'd imagine one of those sound file mash-ups posted in here would be appropriate in that scenario.

Last scene of Scanners, anyone? Only without the final twist

[royceclemens]

Aw, references about the one HBO show I don't watch. If we were doing Wire references, I could play along.



But given all of this, for sheer irony's sake, I'm calling it now. In ME3, Jack is getting a teaching job at Ascension.

[adriano_c]

Mondo47 wrote...

Last scene of Scanners, anyone? Only without the final twist [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

Lol, now that's a throwback. Miranda exclaiming "We've won!" to close the scene would be...interesting, however!

royceclemens wrote...

Aw, references about the one HBO show I don't watch. If we were doing Wire references, I could play along.

Jack as Omar? Disturbing notion.

Tali as Dookie? I could see that.

-edit for text wrapping...as usual.

Modifié par adriano_c, 04 avril 2010 - 03:02 .

[Mondo47]

royceclemens wrote...

Aw, references about the one HBO show I don't watch. If we were doing Wire references, I could play along.

But given all of this, for sheer irony's sake, I'm calling it now. In ME3, Jack is getting a teaching job at Ascension.

Jack doing the hot teacher routine. Ohboy I could go for that. Just stick the gear on her and think how downright weird it would look! She'd have to keep the boots though.

Seroiusly though, I'm not sure whether you'd want someone that powerful teaching kids... all the brain haemorrhages... or someone that is bound to give them a few bad habits; using biotics to float things out of people's pockets, score people in the back of the head with rocks or furniture, overload security lockouts on shuttles, incinerate people's clothing for 'laughs'...

Kids would love her, that's for sure

royceclemens wrote...

Aw, references about the one HBO show I don't watch. If we were doing Wire references, I could play along.

You should give it a go... it's fantastic if you're not too squeamish. My only issue is JK Simmons; brilliant actor, scary as all hell to most folk in Oz, but I think he's really cuddly... just can't take him seriously. Want to pinch his cheeks. And yes, I even think that when he's handing out the prison rapes. Do not know what that says about me. Him and Bruce Campbell are the only reasons I ever bothered watching the Spiderman movies.

Modifié par Mondo47, 04 avril 2010 - 03:07 .

[royceclemens]

Jack could be on the road to becoming Omar. As it stands, though, she's Chris Partlow, only much more terrifying... Which would make Grunt Snoop. You'd think that'd be the other way around.

But Tali as Dookie? Yeah. "Shepard, do you remember that day, one summer past..?"

@ Mondo.  I've come to the conclusion that Jack is suicidal, which leads me to at least hypothesize (not believe, mind you) that if Jack does not spare Aresh, then she will commit suicide between ME2 and ME3.  She says herself in that scenario that she's the only one who knows what happened at Teltin, and when she dies, it's gone. 

If this stands, though, then any Paragon turnaround has the possibility of being huge.  She has a sense of loyalty and a broad moralistic streak, and getting at least a counseling job at Ascension would be in character.  Taking a job at a school for Biotic kids to make sure personally that what happened to her didn't happen to anyone else?  I could see that.  She'll never come out and admit it, of course, but I could see it as something she'd do as penance, given that her brain's out of whack from realizing that a bunch of kids died on her behalf.

Plus, y'know, saving the human race?  That goes great on a resume anywhere you apply.

Modifié par royceclemens, 04 avril 2010 - 03:13 .

[adriano_c]

Grunt as Snoop? I actually smiled at the thought.



However, Jack can't be Chris, as the latter really is a sociopath or something.

[adriano_c]

Somebody1003 wrote...

What do you guys think the relationship between Jack and Miranda will be like in ME3?

Well, with Miranda cutting ties with Cerberus if you choose the paragon path, I could see her becoming more willing to own up to their (Cerberus') past transgressions and maybe mollifying Jack to an extent. Taking Jack's paragon path also into account, maybe a grudging respect? Friendship might be a bit of a stretch.

However, I'm still a fan of the idea that they're "sisters" in a sense, both commissioned through the same lab or something along those lines.

[adriano_c]

royceclemens wrote...

I've come to the conclusion that Jack is suicidal, which leads me to at least hypothesize (not believe, mind you) that if Jack does not spare Aresh, then she will commit suicide between ME2 and ME3.  She says herself in that scenario that she's the only one who knows what happened at Teltin, and when she dies, it's gone. 

Disagree on this. While she's certainly plotted herself on a self-destructive path (as many victims of abuse do), I don't think she's outright suicidal. She prides herself in being a survivor, and I think, she'd view suicide as weak.

[Mondo47]

Somebody1003 wrote...

What do you guys think the relationship between Jack and Miranda will be like in ME3?

I'm guessing that if you romanced Miranda it might be frosty. If you romanced Jack though, I can see Shep being a more positive influence on her and she might be able to let some of her Cerberus-baggage go as far as Miranda was concerned. Not so much friends, no, but cordial enough for them to bicker without it turning into world war seven constantly. They are pretty similar in some ways. I can't see them going shopping the way I've had them in my less-serious deleted scenes, but I can see them being able to converse for a short time without a pissing contest starting.

royceclemens wrote...
@ Mondo. I've come to the conclusion that Jack is suicidal, which leads me to at least hypothesize (not believe, mind you) that if Jack does not spare Aresh, then she will commit suicide between ME2 and ME3. She says herself in that scenario that she's the only one who knows what happened at Teltin, and when she dies, it's gone.

I'm not sure on this one... she might say that death is just a ****ing on/off switch, but considering everything she's been through, other people would have killed themselves long before now. She's certainly not beyond self-destructive risk-taking, but I think part of Jack might actually want to live; always hoping that someday it might get better... sun even shines on a dog's ass sooner or later, and all that. Finding Shep might just be the person she needs, whether he survives the end of ME3 or not, to convince her she's right.

If she was to survive the end of ME3, Jack's future has the potential to be extremely interesting, perhaps a lot moreso than most of the other characters. I mean, what Garrus does next will be cool, but Jacob? Naaahh...

Jack has a lot of potential for Bioware because of her semi-blank-slate status. Future fiction, game spinoffs, whatever. She doesn't have the limits others do. Hopefully the Devs can see this too.

Modifié par Mondo47, 04 avril 2010 - 03:30 .

[BobbyTheI]

Somebody1003 wrote...

What do you guys think the relationship between Jack and Miranda will be like in ME3?

I'm just going to stand over here now.

(Oh, and Wire references, you guys?  I knew I loved this thread for a reason.)

adriano_c wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

I've
come to the conclusion that Jack is suicidal, which leads me to at
least hypothesize (not believe, mind you) that if Jack does not spare
Aresh, then she will commit suicide between ME2 and ME3.  She
says herself in that scenario that she's the only one who knows what
happened at Teltin, and when she dies, it's gone. 

Disagree
on this. While she's certainly plotted herself on a self-destructive
path (as many victims of abuse do), I don't think she's outright
suicidal. She prides herself in being a survivor, and I think, she'd
view suicide as weak.

Yeah, I'd put her more in the realm of self-destructive than suicidal as well.  I don't think she'd outright kill herself but, at least when you first get to know her, she doesn't value her own life much.  Her comments about, "death is easy, f-ing on-off switch" shows that, and at the same time she says that line about every person she kills means she has better odds, means she at least puts some value on her own existence.

Modifié par BobbyTheI, 04 avril 2010 - 03:23 .