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[Mkrgross]

Urdaniel wrote...

Add me to the list of folks who want to see this magnum opus, Mondo.  I've been toying with the idea of a fanfic (please don't hit me, anyone!) but I don't think I can do the character justice so I haven't started seriously on anything.  Maybe I'll play ME2 through several dozen more times to get a better handle on things....

EDIT:

Mkrgross wrote...

Looking forward to it Mondo. Also do you
have a link to your deleted scenes, I can't find the blog post.

It's here:

http://social.bioware.com/566323/#blog

Thanks!

[Mkrgross]

I know we have discussed Jack's tats many times over, but I'm running through ME2 again and I just noticed something. Shaved into the back of her head, looks like the ship Purgatory, (very elementry) and a number tattooed in it. Anyone think this may be a prison tat and that is her cell number on Purgatory?

I don't know looked interesting.

[adriano_c]

Seems the thread has been downgraded to 4/5 stars!

[Mondo47]

adriano_c wrote...

Seems the thread has been downgraded to 4/5 stars!

It's 'cause everyone's off trying to capsize Busomjack's "If you were gay..." thread.

Bearing in mind this is a guy who called me a 'juicer' because I can press 220lbs and yet own a vagina, it has to be done...

[Azint]

http://social.biowar...385/polls/4423/

Vote for Jack!

[adriano_c]

Mondo47 wrote...

It's 'cause everyone's off trying to capsize Busomjack's "If you were gay..." thread.

Hrm, what?

Bearing in mind this is a guy who called me a 'juicer' because I can press 220lbs and yet own a vagina, it has to be done...

Aren't you...63-years-old?

[Urdaniel]

yorkj86 wrote...

Urdaniel wrote...

Add me to the list of folks who want to see this magnum opus, Mondo.  I've been toying with the idea of a fanfic (please don't hit me, anyone!) but I don't think I can do the character justice so I haven't started seriously on anything.  Maybe I'll play ME2 through several dozen more times to get a better handle on things....

Mondo47's the only person I've yet seen who's capable of getting Jack's dialogue just right, even down to the way she phrases her sentences and throws out expletives.  I'm not trying to discourage you from trying, but Mondo47 has it down to an art.

You know how you can post a picture of Prof. Farnsworth from Futurama, and have people automatically read whatever text accompanies the picture, in their minds, in his voice?   The same thing happens to me with Mondo47's fanfic, but with Jack.  I read Mondo47's lines for Jack in Jack's voice.  That's good writing.

Yep, I'd have to agree with your assessment on this.  And you can't discourage me any more than I already have myself.    I have never met - let alone associated with for any length of time - anyone like Jack in real life (in truth, I wouldn't even want to be in the same time zone she was in if she was in a bad mood), which is probably why I can't even manage a middling effort (and that's in my self-biased opinion).  Hence my use of the word "toying" when talking about my intentions.  Guess I'll stick to reading this thread - probably safer for everyone concerned that way. 


EDIT: Jack's ahead of Miranda in the poll (and yes, I just voted).  

Modifié par Urdaniel, 08 avril 2010 - 10:46 .

[Mondo47]

adriano_c wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

It's 'cause everyone's off trying to capsize Busomjack's "If you were gay..." thread.

Hrm, what?

Bearing in mind this is a guy who called me a 'juicer' because I can press 220lbs and yet own a vagina, it has to be done...

Aren't you...63-years-old?

I'm old but I'm not that bloody old you cheeky monkey!

[Nightwriter]

Azint wrote...

http://social.biowar...385/polls/4423/

Vote for Jack!

So we're just talking about faces, then? Not characters?

[Azint]

Nightwriter wrote...

Azint wrote...

http://social.biowar...385/polls/4423/

Vote for Jack!

So we're just talking about faces, then? Not characters?

Exactly as it's said.

[tommyt_1994]

Hey guys, huge Jack fan here, I have a quick question that id lov some input on. What do you guys think is the best way to assign Jack's points? I'm an infiltrator playing on insanity btw.



Thanks all

[adriano_c]

Mondo47 wrote...
I'm old but I'm not that bloody old you cheeky monkey!

Ah, sorry! Assumed the '47' in your username was a birth year, just as I assume the '86' in yorkj86's is his/hers.

So, care to re-explain the thread rating? I was under the impression it was based upon clicking the stars at the top of the thread or something?

Unless you're working your lats or something...in that case, I can wait.

[adriano_c]

tommyt_1994 wrote...

Hey guys, huge Jack fan here, I have a quick question that id lov some input on. What do you guys think is the best way to assign Jack's points? I'm an infiltrator playing on insanity btw.

Thanks all

Unsure if there's a definitive build, but... I usually put 4 into warp ammo, 4 into her class skill, 3 into shockwave and 2 into pull.

[Mondo47]

adriano_c wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...
I'm old but I'm not that bloody old you cheeky monkey!

Ah, sorry! Assumed the '47' in your username was a birth year, just as I assume the '86' in yorkj86's is his/hers.

So, care to re-explain the thread rating? I was under the impression it was based upon clicking the stars at the top of the thread or something?

Unless you're working your lats or something...in that case, I can wait.

47 as in Agent 47... I have a thing for bald men

It's just a handle I used for network gaming back at college, and it was a damn sight easier to type in a rush or scream over Ventrillo "47, get to the back door. Barneys in MAX suits! GO!!"

[Nightwriter]

Azint wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Azint wrote...

http://social.biowar...385/polls/4423/

Vote for Jack!

So we're just talking about faces, then? Not characters?

Exactly as it's said.

Have you given the Miranda thread this link? Be interesting to see what they'd think.

Personally, if we're going by faces I think I like Jack's better, even though I'm a Miranda fan.

[Collider]

Voted for Jack. Seriously don't really care either way though.

[Azint]

Nightwriter wrote...

Have you given the Miranda thread this link? Be interesting to see what they'd think.

Personally, if we're going by faces I think I like Jack's better, even though I'm a Miranda fan.

I'm fair, I posted this on the other thread as well. It's up to the posters to vote.

[Nightwriter]

Azint wrote...

I'm fair, I posted this on the other thread as well. It's up to the posters to vote.

Cool.

I think I'll vote for Jack. I'm finding it hard to separate face from character, though.

[Urdaniel]

tommyt_1994 wrote...

Hey guys, huge Jack fan here, I have a quick question that id lov some input on. What do you guys think is the best way to assign Jack's points? I'm an infiltrator playing on insanity btw.

Thanks all

On Insanity, the primary problem with Jack's skillset is that apart from say, Warp Ammo, her biotics are mostly ineffective until the target's protection(s) are stripped - even though Shockwave can make enemies briefly pause in their tracks even if they're still protected.  Once you DO take the shields/barriers/armor down, Pull and Shockwave tend to mess up an Infiltrator's headshots (as Mondo has already noted earlier in this thread).  She tends to be a lot more usable in combination with Sheps who don't use headshots to deal a big chunk of their damage and who have ways of dealing with protection whether by themselves or in combination with the other member of the squad.  Her other problem is her weapon selection: between the shotgun and the pistol, she has to get close to do real damage.  Unfortunately, for all the cutscene hype, she's actually very squishy (something which several people have mentioned before in this thread as well), especially on Insanity.

Overall, I tend to use her for crowd control and  micromanage her movements to keep her out of harm's way as much as possible (and yes, I hate letting squad members "die," and not just Jack).  Not really in keeping with her character, unfortunately, but blame Bioware. 

That said, here's the point allocation I use (keep in mind that I play a Vanguard for my all-Jack-all-the-time playthroughs and that my Infiltrator tends to mix and match squaddies according to situation).  Note that the number means the number of points in the power:

10 Primal Adept - You definitely want to max her class skill; the recharge time reduction from this and the squad biotic upgrades let her spam her powers like crazy.  The extra weapon damage from the other Rank 4 evolution is okay, but unnecessary for crowd control.

10 Pull Field - For me, this is her primary crowd control skill once target protections are gone.  It insta-kills unarmored Husks and keeps other unprotected opponents in view, unlike Shockwave which can sometimes throw enemies behind cover.  On Insanity, the area-of-effect evolution is more useful than the duration evolution - more opponents Pulled = fewer opponents shooting at you.

6 Shockwave - Primarily for the stagger effect and the occasional knock-em-over-the-edge situation.  I usually manually trigger this or Pull so that I have better control over when she uses them.

3 Warp Ammo - I usually go for squad ammo powers on my Shep, which is why this gets so few points.  In fact, if you intend to use squad ammo powers, you may want to leave points out of this power altogether.  The squaddie AI has an annoying tendency to turn on these powers automatically (even if you set Squad Power Usage off) and mess up your own squad ammo assignments.  If you don't use squad ammo powers, this gives her weapons a little extra kick, even though raw weapon damage isn't her role with this build.

Well, that's my two cents.  Sorry for the wall of text. 

[Jackal904]

adriano_c wrote...

Seems the thread has been downgraded to 4/5 stars!

Probably from a bunch of Tali fans.

yorkj86 wrote...

Mondo47's the only person I've yet seen who's capable of getting Jack's dialogue just right, even down to the way she phrases her sentences and throws out expletives.  I'm not trying to discourage you from trying, but Mondo47 has it down to an art.

You know how you can post a picture of Prof. Farnsworth from Futurama, and have people automatically read whatever text accompanies the picture, in their minds, in his voice?   The same thing happens to me with Mondo47's fanfic, but with Jack.  I read Mondo47's lines for Jack in Jack's voice.  That's good writing.

Same here. I can't picture anyone else doing Jack fanfics. Mondo is the only one I trust it with it. She does such a great job of accurately conveying Jack's character. Good job Mondo .

tommyt_1994 wrote...

Hey guys, huge Jack fan here, I have a quick question that id lov some input on. What do you guys think is the best way to assign Jack's points? I'm an infiltrator playing on insanity btw.

Thanks all

Well there is a nice glitch that allows you to max out everything www.youtube.com/watch. But if you don't want to use it, I recommend getting her pull field and primal adept, then put the rest in warp ammo.

[Mondo47]

yorkj86 wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...
47 as in Agent 47... I have a thing for bald men

It's just a handle I used for network gaming back at college, and it was a damn sight easier to type in a rush or scream over Ventrillo "47, get to the back door. Barneys in MAX suits! GO!!"

Mondo47 used to play Planetside.   It's not like I needed another reason to like her, but here it is.

I was known to spam the Noobhammer from time to time, but MAX suits were my thing... locking down at the top of a staircase and just spraying death on anything that was red or purple...