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True... but Thane can be killed by either the exploding drive core OR by not having the shield upgrade (he gets crushed by an I-beam). So Thane sets a precedent for having 2 chances to kill a crewmate before even getting to the Collector base.


Yeah, well, he was nearing his expiry date anyway.

(Oh, snap!)

Nah, Thane's alright.

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So I was listening to the ending of this song and it made me think of when you reject Jack during her paragon romance scene because most of the lyrics match what you might think is running through her head at the time, plus it sounds really sad. But it should fit right in with the recent wave of a sadness that Mondo has so generously handed out Image IPB.


Never really been a huge DT fan (largely because all the DT fans I've met have been arrogant music snobs, but that's got to just be my bad luck more than anything else). But this one... it's always made me cry for good reasons, especially the last verse. I might get off on industrial harshness, but I'm a sucker for good lyrics.

I'd not heard it for years until just now. I think it fits our gal, too.


The last verse makes it sound as if Shepard's left her :crying:  Or maybe the song could relate to her in that these are her thoughts about Murtock...?

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This is the only character thread that actually talks about the character instead of discussing what someone ate for breakfast. Us Jack fans may be few but we are strong.

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yorkj86 wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

So I was listening to the ending of this song and it made me think of when you reject Jack during her paragon romance scene because most of the lyrics match what you might think is running through her head at the time, plus it sounds really sad. But it should fit right in with the recent wave of a sadness that Mondo has so generously handed out Image IPB.


Never really been a huge DT fan (largely because all the DT fans I've met have been arrogant music snobs, but that's got to just be my bad luck more than anything else). But this one... it's always made me cry for good reasons, especially the last verse. I might get off on industrial harshness, but I'm a sucker for good lyrics.

I'd not heard it for years until just now. I think it fits our gal, too.


The last verse makes it sound as if Shepard's left her :crying:  Or maybe the song could relate to her in that these are her thoughts about Murtock...?


Each verse, as I've always been led to interpret it, is about a different person, and yeah, the last verse is someone that has been left and is surviving despite it... that's more a personal thing though. That chorus is a powerful bit of poetry; heal me, warm me, make me whole despite who I am, be with me and I won't be afraid anymore. That fits.

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Razorsedge820 wrote...
This is the only character thread that actually talks about the character instead on discussing what someone ate for breakfast. Us Jack fans may be few but we are strong.


Jokingly: The bill for taking Jack out to dinner must be huge considering her biotic output.

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Pacifien wrote...

Razorsedge820 wrote...
This is the only character thread that actually talks about the character instead on discussing what someone ate for breakfast. Us Jack fans may be few but we are strong.


Jokingly: The bill for taking Jack out to dinner must be huge considering her biotic output.


A cool thousand at leastB)

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Razorsedge820 wrote...
This is the only character thread that actually talks about the character instead on discussing what someone ate for breakfast. Us Jack fans may be few but we are strong.


Jokingly: The bill for taking Jack out to dinner must be huge considering her biotic output.


I'm not a big anime guy, but she must put food away like Goku from Dragonball does.

Strangely enough, if Jack can really put the food away, that endears her to me even more.

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Razorsedge820 wrote...

This is the only character thread that actually talks about the character instead on discussing what someone ate for breakfast. Us Jack fans may be few but we are strong.

We aren't the only one, but I think we do a rather good job of it. 


Bonus high-five Jack:

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MHRazer wrote...

Razorsedge820 wrote...

This is the only character thread that actually talks about the character instead on discussing what someone ate for breakfast. Us Jack fans may be few but we are strong.

We aren't the only one, but I think we do a rather good job of it. 


Bonus high-five Jack:

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That is such an epic high five.:D

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MHRazer wrote...

Bonus high-five Jack:

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Jack looks like she is about to strangle me in this pic...........I like it!!!! :D

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The look on her face is like "Say one more word and I'll crush your throat." Priceless.

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I am on a fresh playthrough and I am going romance Jack. Does she like you to give her renegade answers most of the time?  It's been a while since I exhausted dialog with her.  Only done it once actually.

I know of a fling that you can do wirth her, which is not a romance.  I never have done that one. 

You can renegade and paragon her romance right?

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I am on a fresh playthrough and I am going romance Jack. Does she like you to give her renegade answers most of the time?  It's been a while since I exhausted dialog with her.  Only done it once actually.

I know of a fling that you can do wirth her, which is not a romance.  I never have done that one. 

You can renegade and paragon her romance right?


Use the paragon options all the time, this insures the romance. Also, talk to her whenever you can (usually after each mission)

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I am on a fresh playthrough and I am going romance Jack. Does she like you to give her renegade answers most of the time?  It's been a while since I exhausted dialog with her.  Only done it once actually.

I know of a fling that you can do wirth her, which is not a romance.  I never have done that one. 

You can renegade and paragon her romance right?


Do the Paragon conversation options to avoid the fling.  After that, you can use the Renegade conversation options with her.  Obviously, avoid breaking up with her, as that's the Renegade conversation option.

I don't like using the Renegade conversation options with Jack.   They're "tough-love Shepard", but still, so mean :unsure:

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yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

I am on a fresh playthrough and I am going romance Jack. Does she like you to give her renegade answers most of the time?  It's been a while since I exhausted dialog with her.  Only done it once actually.

I know of a fling that you can do wirth her, which is not a romance.  I never have done that one. 

You can renegade and paragon her romance right?


Do the Paragon conversation options to avoid the fling.  After that, you can use the Renegade conversation options with her.  Obviously, avoid breaking up with her, as that's the Renegade conversation option.

I don't like using the Renegade conversation options with Jack.   They're "tough-love Shepard", but still, so mean :unsure:


I know, I always use the Paragon ones to avoid the hardass remarks

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Get past the scene where Jack offers you casual sex after that you can go all renegade on her you want. I found Shepard's renegade conversations with Jack building up the romance funny especially the "tower of ****" line.

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Do the Paragon conversation options to avoid the fling.  After that, you can use the Renegade conversation options with her.  Obviously, avoid breaking up with her, as that's the Renegade conversation option.

I don't like using the Renegade conversation options with Jack.   They're "tough-love Shepard", but still, so mean :unsure:

When is the fling?  How do I know I avoided it?

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Use the paragon options all the time,
this insures the romance. Also, talk to her whenever you can (usually
after each mission)

I recruited her 2nd and I have talked to her once.  How many convos approx do you get before the dialog is exhausted?

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And imo, when she thanks you after her loyalty mission, take the neutral option. The paragon option for that conversation is a bit too nice. Just imo.

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Get past the scene where Jack offers you casual sex after that you can go all renegade on her you want. I found Shepard's renegade conversations with Jack building up the romance funny especially the "tower of ****" line.

Ok, so when she offers casual sex, I refuse.  Then after that I got her either renegade or paragon right?  Is the romance scene any different between the 2?

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Razorsedge820 wrote...

Get past the scene where Jack offers you casual sex after that you can go all renegade on her you want. I found Shepard's renegade conversations with Jack building up the romance funny especially the "tower of ****" line.

Ok, so when she offers casual sex, I refuse.  Then after that I got her either renegade or paragon right?  Is the romance scene any different between the 2?


After you avoid the fling option, it doesn't matter if you choose Paragon or Renegade.  It's a matter of your roleplaying taste. 

The Renegade option for the final romance scene is to tell her to get lost, so...

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yorkj86 wrote...
Do the Paragon conversation options to avoid the fling.  After that, you can use the Renegade conversation options with her.  Obviously, avoid breaking up with her, as that's the Renegade conversation option.

I don't like using the Renegade conversation options with Jack.   They're "tough-love Shepard", but still, so mean :unsure:

When is the fling?  How do I know I avoided it?

Iron Man195 wrote...
Use the paragon options all the time,
this insures the romance. Also, talk to her whenever you can (usually
after each mission)

I recruited her 2nd and I have talked to her once.  How many convos approx do you get before the dialog is exhausted?


I think it's about 4 or 5 convos. When she tells you she needs time to think and says something like "you don't have to agree so fast f****r." ( it's in a good context so dont worry) then you have fully exhausted the dialouge and can get the romance cutscene when you go through the omega four.

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yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

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Get past the scene where Jack offers you casual sex after that you can go all renegade on her you want. I found Shepard's renegade conversations with Jack building up the romance funny especially the "tower of ****" line.

Ok, so when she offers casual sex, I refuse.  Then after that I got her either renegade or paragon right?  Is the romance scene any different between the 2?

After you avoid the fling option, it doesn't matter if you choose Paragon or Renegade.  It's a matter of your roleplaying taste. 

The Renegade option for the final romance scene is to tell her to get lost, so...

I don't think I could do that to her.  Maybe save it and do it and reload, but still even then....

After all she has been through, that would add some serious salt to an already bitter wound.  That would be about as bad as what Mondo described in that touching story.  About the guys passing her around and taking turns.  I couldn't do that, not to her anyway.

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

Razorsedge820 wrote...

Get past the scene where Jack offers you casual sex after that you can go all renegade on her you want. I found Shepard's renegade conversations with Jack building up the romance funny especially the "tower of ****" line.

Ok, so when she offers casual sex, I refuse.  Then after that I got her either renegade or paragon right?  Is the romance scene any different between the 2?


Yeah the romance scene is the same either way, just dont go for the obvious break up lines like "agreed no romance" or "There is someone else I like" otherwise than that you should be safe. When you have the "do you have feeling for me Shepard" conversation with Jack it can go in different directions, I like the neutral option.

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yorkj86 wrote...
Do the Paragon conversation options to avoid the fling.  After that, you can use the Renegade conversation options with her.  Obviously, avoid breaking up with her, as that's the Renegade conversation option.

I don't like using the Renegade conversation options with Jack.   They're "tough-love Shepard", but still, so mean :unsure:

When is the fling?  How do I know I avoided it?

Iron Man195 wrote...
Use the paragon options all the time,
this insures the romance. Also, talk to her whenever you can (usually
after each mission)

I recruited her 2nd and I have talked to her once.  How many convos approx do you get before the dialog is exhausted?

I think it's about 4 or 5 convos. When she tells you she needs time to think and says something like "you don't have to agree so fast f****r." ( it's in a good context so dont worry) then you have fully exhausted the dialouge and can get the romance cutscene when you go through the omega four.

Razorsedge820 wrote...
Yeah the romance scene is the same
either way, just dont go for the obvious break up lines like "agreed no
romance" or "There is someone else I like" otherwise than that you
should be safe. When you have the "do you have feeling for me Shepard"
conversation with Jack it can go in different directions, I like the
neutral option.

Thanks for the info from both of you.

I am kinda looking forward to it.  The funny thing is that I am about burned out on the game, but I haven't really gone through the romances hardly at all.  It adds some replay value to the game at this point.  I am kinda glad I skipped over a lot of that up to this point.

On a side note:
I have a question for the guys:  How many of you have played as FemShep and done all of her romances?

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yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

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Get past the scene where Jack offers you casual sex after that you can go all renegade on her you want. I found Shepard's renegade conversations with Jack building up the romance funny especially the "tower of ****" line.

Ok, so when she offers casual sex, I refuse.  Then after that I got her either renegade or paragon right?  Is the romance scene any different between the 2?

After you avoid the fling option, it doesn't matter if you choose Paragon or Renegade.  It's a matter of your roleplaying taste. 

The Renegade option for the final romance scene is to tell her to get lost, so...

I don't think I could do that to her.  Maybe save it and do it and reload, but still even then....

After all she has been through, that would add some serious salt to an already bitter wound.  That would be about as bad as what Mondo described in that touching story.  About the guys passing her around and taking turns.  I couldn't do that, not to her anyway.


I rejected her once, to see how she would react.   I like to experience every part of a game I paid $60 for.   But when I actually rejected her, I went, "Oh my God, what have I done"  and Alt+F4'ed as fast as I could.  Then I loaded the save and of course I accepted her.   I felt so bad :crying:

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