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So some guy in another thread linked to this Jack fanfic and it's really good. It's called "Rock Steady." I've read all ten chapters. I guess the author is working on chapter eleven. The first seven chapters are amazing, the last three chapters could have been consolidated into one imo. They seemed to drag on and contain a bit too much fluff. But anyway, it's still really good and I can't say anything else without spoiling something.

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Jackal904 wrote...

So some guy in another thread linked to this Jack fanfic and it's really good. It's called "Rock Steady." I've read all ten chapters. I guess the author is working on chapter eleven. The first seven chapters are amazing, the last three chapters could have been consolidated into one imo. They seemed to drag on and contain a bit too much fluff. But anyway, it's still really good and I can't say anything else without spoiling something.


Read it. It's pretty damn good; the writer has a neat grasp of prose, everything's as it should be, sure there are a couple of bits that seem a little poofy, but hell, all writers pad their bras a little sometimes. Little touches, like Zaeed demonstrating tactics with objects on the ramen-bar tabletop, were lovely. My only gripe... Jack and Thane? I can't see him thinking of someone who can be (and is if we're honest) such a child as potential relationship material. I can see him trying to help her deal with her problems, but I doubt it'd get horizontal... I think he's too much of a gent for that... plus, I doubt Jack would deal well with someone with such a clear expiry date. She doesn't deal with loss well. She's immature, he's overly mature. And I think as a parent with a son with similar responsibility issues, Thane would draw a line and not cross it... maybe I'm putting too much of me in Thane, but as a parent, you don't find immaturity attractive. I could see them being friends maybe, but lovers? Nah, can't get it to dovetail in my head. With the gal mature and the man immature, I can make it work (thanks Joni for one of the greatest songs ever about those doomed relationships that burn out in weeks but hang in your bones for decades after you marry someone perfect), but the other way around? No offense, but that requires some sentimentality, and guys that grow up... they stay grown up.

That aside though, it's a fine bit of fiction. I'll have to up my game ^_^

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Mondo47 wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

So some guy in another thread linked to this Jack fanfic and it's really good. It's called "Rock Steady." I've read all ten chapters. I guess the author is working on chapter eleven. The first seven chapters are amazing, the last three chapters could have been consolidated into one imo. They seemed to drag on and contain a bit too much fluff. But anyway, it's still really good and I can't say anything else without spoiling something.


Read it. It's pretty damn good; the writer has a neat grasp of prose, everything's as it should be, sure there are a couple of bits that seem a little poofy, but hell, all writers pad their bras a little sometimes. Little touches, like Zaeed demonstrating tactics with objects on the ramen-bar tabletop, were lovely. My only gripe... Jack and Thane? I can't see him thinking of someone who can be (and is if we're honest) such a child as potential relationship material. I can see him trying to help her deal with her problems, but I doubt it'd get horizontal... I think he's too much of a gent for that... plus, I doubt Jack would deal well with someone with such a clear expiry date. She doesn't deal with loss well. She's immature, he's overly mature. And I think as a parent with a son with similar responsibility issues, Thane would draw a line and not cross it... maybe I'm putting too much of me in Thane, but as a parent, you don't find immaturity attractive. I could see them being friends maybe, but lovers? Nah, can't get it to dovetail in my head. With the gal mature and the man immature, I can make it work (thanks Joni for one of the greatest songs ever about those doomed relationships that burn out in weeks but hang in your bones for decades after you marry someone perfect), but the other way around? No offense, but that requires some sentimentality, and guys that grow up... they stay grown up.

That aside though, it's a fine bit of fiction. I'll have to up my game ^_^


Yeah I was hoping that Thane would stay as more of a father figure to Jack. I agree that I don't think Jack would want to form too close of a relationship with someone who is dieing. But I guess you could make the arguement that she would want to get really close to the first person in a long time that makes her feel comfortable and accepted.

And I meant only the last three chapters had noteworthy fluff. I don't think Thane's loyalty mission needed to be drawn out across three chapters.

But yeah, now you've got a little healthy competition Mondo :D.

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Jackal904 wrote...

But yeah, now you've got a little healthy competition Mondo :D.


Bah, there's plenty of folk write better than me out there. Granted, I'm not painting the inside of my cell with my own s**t, but there's plenty better than me :happy:

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Not a big fan of this fanfic.  Pretty predictable.   Lots of words doing little for the story.  To be constructive, though, the effort the author puts in to the details holds the reader's attention pretty well.

EDIT:  Corrected the error Little Paw pointed out.

Modifié par yorkj86, 01 mai 2010 - 10:24 .


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"keeps holds"...how that for an extra word? LOL.
Sorry too easy.

The fanfic was very good...and I agree that Thane would not bed Jack. He would parent her.

Modifié par Little Paw, 01 mai 2010 - 10:09 .


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Ok, I have a little Ill Communication for you all... bloody awkward biotics... :D

Just so you all know, this is halfway through ME2 in the timeline - it's pretty obvious, but just in case anyone gets confused... this is well before any real fireworks started.

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But if it's that long-rumored Liara DLC? Then ME3 will be announced at E3 in June. And the release date will be some time in the next twelve-to-fifteen months.

How do you figure...I don't see how announcing the Liara DLC would also equal an announcement for ME3 at E3 in June. If that's what you're saying.

I do think it's one of these things:
a) Appearance pack
B) Liara DLC
c) Something to do with Horizon and/or Ashley/Kaidan


I don't have one big thing to point to for this feeling I have.  Just a few little things.

-That mysterious "far-reaching" thing for ME2 coming in Q1 '11.  I doubt it's an expansion, as there would need to be a ton of resources poured into a game like this.  It ain't DA.

-The statement from EA (from before ME2 came out) saying they wanted to reduce the wait time between games.

-Liara's pretty much the only thing I can think of that would be needed to bridge the gap between ME2 and ME3, DLC-wise.  She's the most plot relevant character, and after that it would be full-steam ahead.

-Yvonne Strahovski.  If she's coming back (and given the ridiculous amount of plot armor she has, it's a formality at this point), then the best time for her to do her VA work would be during her hiatus from CHUCK... Which would be right now.  If they wait until next spring, it'll be too late for even a Q4 '11 (or even Q1 '12) release date.

I could be wrong about this, though.

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Mondo47 wrote...

Ok, I have a little Ill Communication for you all... bloody awkward biotics... :D

Just so you all know, this is halfway through ME2 in the timeline - it's pretty obvious, but just in case anyone gets confused... this is well before any real fireworks started.


Yay!   Story-time with Mondo!    Retrieves the roll-out mats and the milk and cookies.

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Mondo47 wrote...

Ok, I have a little Ill Communication for you all... bloody awkward biotics... :D

Just so you all know, this is halfway through ME2 in the timeline - it's pretty obvious, but just in case anyone gets confused... this is well before any real fireworks started.


Just finished, and I like it - not as much as Round Two or Walking After You, but that should in no way be taken to mean that I'm knocking its quality.  I particularly like how, in all your stuff, things are implied and subtle, making the reader pay attention and actually think while reading, instead of having everything smacked in their faces and spoonfed.  It feels like a sort of literary treasure hunt that way, with a payoff at the end.

Btw, I tried reading that bit of fanfic you linked.  Once I saw it was Jack/Thane, my brain just kinda shut down and I couldn't get any further.  It looked technically good, but the subject matter....  Guess I'm just biased, unfortunately.

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Mondo47 wrote...

Ok, I have a little Ill Communication for you all... bloody awkward biotics... :D

Just so you all know, this is halfway through ME2 in the timeline - it's pretty obvious, but just in case anyone gets confused... this is well before any real fireworks started.


I like it, I like it allot.

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Mondo47 wrote...

Ok, I have a little Ill Communication for you all... bloody awkward biotics... :D

Just so you all know, this is halfway through ME2 in the timeline - it's pretty obvious, but just in case anyone gets confused... this is well before any real fireworks started.

Kept me interested throughout the entire dialog. 

I am looking forward to that full exam possibly in the future.:D

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Wow, that pic was very nice.

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Ok, I have a little Ill Communication for you all... bloody awkward biotics... :D

Just so you all know, this is halfway through ME2 in the timeline - it's pretty obvious, but just in case anyone gets confused... this is well before any real fireworks started.

Kept me interested throughout the entire dialog. 

I am looking forward to that full exam possibly in the future.:D


Haha yeah same here :D.

Mondo47 wrote...

Bah,
there's plenty of folk write better than me out there.


Well I haven't seen anyone come close yet :happy:.

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Mondo47 wrote...

Ok, I have a little Ill Communication for you all... bloody awkward biotics... :D

Just so you all know, this is halfway through ME2 in the timeline - it's pretty obvious, but just in case anyone gets confused... this is well before any real fireworks started.


Well damned if I didn't enjoy myself reading that.  That's just lovely.

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In brainstorming my own little bits of Jack & Shepard fanfic, I'm finding that the greatest challenge is striking a balance between Jack's emotional iciness and her ability to have feelings for Shepard.  She shows interest, in her own way, but she shouldn't be seen to be doting like Tali (I regret nothing!) is.

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Here ya go Epantiras, maybe this should help you out on what areas you could tweak on your sketch:

edit: Image IPB

original:
Image IPB

When in doubt, always look at your sketch backwards. Flip it horizontally in Photoshop if you have to. It's an old french artist's trick in checking for balance in a piece whether it's for anatomy or basic composition.

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cghub.com/files/Image/054001-055000/54322/319_realsize.jpg

saw this while surfing the net.

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Titan98RG wrote...

cghub.com/files/Image/054001-055000/54322/319_realsize.jpg

saw this while surfing the net.


That face makes her look like someone's granny.  I'm glad Bioware went with the current one.

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I've said this before, that model was specifically for the FFTL mini-site that was sorta hidden on the ME2 website. Kinda glad they didn't do too many closeups of any of the characters.

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Support for Jack!!

When taken out with Grunt you can get some of the most hilarious conversations.

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axl99 wrote...

Here ya go Epantiras, maybe this should help you out on what areas you could tweak on your sketch:

edit:

original:

When in doubt, always look at your sketch backwards. Flip it horizontally in Photoshop if you have to. It's an old french artist's trick in checking for balance in a piece whether it's for anatomy or basic composition.


Thanks for the help! Ah, I know the flipping trick, the problem is that after a while it stops working. When it happens, I usually upload the sketch somewhere and beg for help ;)

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There are times where it's much easier to change the proportions of the head as opposed to changing the whole body.   People keep arguing about how the human body is either 7, 7.5 or 8 heads tall.  Personally I just stick with 7 - 8 if I need to give someone stature.

List of changes:

- lengthened her upper arm a tad
- slimmed down her neck
- raised her pelvis
- narrowed her facial features
- evened out her legs so it looks like one foot is in front of the other

Have fun with the tats ;).

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