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#701
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Seraphael wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

Why is it that when I think of this song,
www.youtube.com/watch

I see this:
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Ah, how sweet! NOT! ...it's just another reason to support this thread as opposed to just about all other LI-threads. This is getting ridiculous. Take a stance today or this just might become tomorrows nightmare. :blink::D




AAAARGH!!! MY EYES ARE BURNING!! PLEASE SOMEBODY ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL OF THAT TOPIC :devil:

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Hey, you know what I just realized?

If Shepard and Jack were to get married... she'd be Jack Shepard.

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And that's officially the ONLY reference to any theoretical Shepard/Jack wedding I EVER want to see in this thread. :P 

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I'm getting the suspicion that Liz Sroka gets some of the most horrifying mail on the planet. Anyone that's capable of that Tali wedding picture is capable of things outside my imagination.

Does give rise for some food for thought, though. How do you think it's gonna end? How do you WANT it to end? And what changes do you think are going to be implemented to her character depending on how you treat her?

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I wasn't keen on romancing Jack, did it only during my fourth playthrough just to see more different stuff and it was quite a nice surprise. I find paragon Shepard/Jack it is the best written romance in ME2.

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 So hey everyone, thread founder here. I haven't been active really in this thread at all since it got big. I kind of thought it was going to get buried after the 200th post (you can see how I was trying to repeated bump it). 

But it hasn't! AWESOME. However, I haven't done my duty as thread to properly promote Jack and Jack fandom. So if theres anything on this thread that is particularly OP worthy, please grab the link and PM me. I mainly spend my time in the classes and Builds forum working on my video guides, so I don't come to this section too much, mainly because my computer crashes at the sight of all the Tali weirdness out there.

So please PM me if you have something that is OP worthy. I will do my best to put it in there. 

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royceclemens wrote...

I'm getting the suspicion that Liz Sroka gets some of the most horrifying mail on the planet. Anyone that's capable of that Tali wedding picture is capable of things outside my imagination.

Does give rise for some food for thought, though. How do you think it's gonna end? How do you WANT it to end? And what changes do you think are going to be implemented to her character depending on how you treat her?


I really don't foresee a wedding with Jack if that's what you're asking.  What would be really crazy is if she's your LI at the end of 2, she starts growing back some of her hair in 3.  Although if she grew her hair back I think it would be kinda losing something that defines her character, not sure if breaking down her wall will change her outlook in 3 however.

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Ultai wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

I'm getting the suspicion that Liz Sroka gets some of the most horrifying mail on the planet. Anyone that's capable of that Tali wedding picture is capable of things outside my imagination.

Does give rise for some food for thought, though. How do you think it's gonna end? How do you WANT it to end? And what changes do you think are going to be implemented to her character depending on how you treat her?


I really don't foresee a wedding with Jack if that's what you're asking.  What would be really crazy is if she's your LI at the end of 2, she starts growing back some of her hair in 3.  Although if she grew her hair back I think it would be kinda losing something that defines her character, not sure if breaking down her wall will change her outlook in 3 however.


Dear sweet Cthulu, no marriage!  And no tattoo removal, which is akin to removing her backbone and a good chunk of her soul.  Hair...?  Doesn't really matter to me.

But if there's a change in her demeanor, I don't think it's gonna come from whether or not you romanced her, but whether or not she spared Aresh on Pragia.  If there is a change though (provided she comes back), I'd like to see her be capable of mercy.  I don't mean she should wuss out and start wearing dresses, she better keep her foul mouth, but I'd like it if she found out there were other things to life than seething hate.

In short, I'd like to know if my actions had consequences.  I'd like to see if I helped her at all.

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I do not understand why so many that say they like Jack want to see her tattoos removed or Jack to grow hair or her personality change and become very nice all the time.That is like Jack is really awesome and I really like this character BUT I want Bioware first chance they have to change everything about her.


I like that she is the type that can be sweet and emotional but also aint afraid to tell someone including Shep to F off. She is a spunky girl that speaks her mind

Modifié par Nastrod, 28 février 2010 - 11:10 .


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Dear God, no. I'd almost rather Jack be left out of ME3, instead of being chickified and "Oh, Shepard, your goody goodness has turned me into an obedient lap dog.  Let me go grow out my hair into silken blond tresses, and cover up my tattoos with a frilly blouse, and we'll go rescue puppies together!" I think it's safe to say that most of us are here because Jack isn't your typical girly-girl, and to start turning her into one and making her look more "conventional" would just be selling the character out.

Ideally, I'd like to see a shift from "evil teammate" to "anti-heroine."  Still mean-spirited and violent, but willing to show some restraint, and more open to working as part of a team with others.  She's still not going to get along with most people, but you can trust her to watch your back.

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BobbyTheI wrote...

Ideally, I'd like to see a shift from "evil teammate" to "anti-heroine."  Still mean-spirited and violent, but willing to show some restraint, and more open to working as part of a team with others.  She's still not going to get along with most people, but you can trust her to watch your back.


And hopefully she keeps referring to Miranda as cheerleader. Would be awesome if she added an N7 tat somewhere like one of the pictures in this thread.

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Going from Chaotic Neutral to... Say, Chaotic Good? That'd work, right?

I'm deeply opposed to chickification myself, but I'd rather have her in an Avon Barksdale state of mind that the Marlo Stanfield state that's been causing her so much pain.

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Ultai wrote...

BobbyTheI wrote...

Ideally, I'd like to see a shift from "evil teammate" to "anti-heroine."  Still mean-spirited and violent, but willing to show some restraint, and more open to working as part of a team with others.  She's still not going to get along with most people, but you can trust her to watch your back.


And hopefully she keeps referring to Miranda as cheerleader. Would be awesome if she added an N7 tat somewhere like one of the pictures in this thread.

I agree she should still call Miranda a cheerleader. They can not have them at each others throats all of ME3 so she can just say how Miranda proved she is not the typical Cerberus scum but she is still a typical cheerleader.

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best facial structure in mass effect 2 by far

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Basicly Jack is an Alliance project like kaidan ....



Alliance want to make the best biotic soldiers - and many kids ... were killed in the process



And after they use them - they put false memories in them - so the kid believe that another



organization is to blame - in the case of jack Cerberus



Jack for me is an amazing char and she deserves more story - love and in ME3 a good marriage with her :P:P:P

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Definitely keep the cheerleader bit.

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stolen from the Miranda thread, just edited the text.

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Ultai wrote...

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Have to say finally breaking down her wall at that point tugged at my heart strings alittle, and the follow up "God dammit" was cute


Lmao that cracked me up so much when you're walking away and she's like "God damnit..." That is totally something I would say.

Nastrod wrote...

I do not understand why so many that say they like Jack want to see her tattoos removed or Jack to grow hair or her personality change and become very nice all the time.That is like Jack is really awesome and I really like this character BUT I want Bioware first chance they have to change everything about her.

I like that she is the type that can be sweet and emotional but also aint afraid to tell someone including Shep to F off. She is a spunky girl that speaks her mind


I know I don't understand this either. The tattoos and hair are what make Jack. The only thing I would like her to change is the 'hair markings' from when she was in the cult. I want her to keep the shaved head but get rid of the symbols she shaved in, which I'm assuming are associated with the cult she was in.

Dear God, no. I'd almost rather Jack be left out of ME3, instead of being chickified and "Oh, Shepard, your goody goodness has turned me into an obedient lap dog.  Let me go grow out my hair into silken blond tresses, and cover up my tattoos with a frilly blouse, and we'll go rescue puppies together!" I think it's safe to say that most of us are here because Jack isn't your typical girly-girl, and to start turning her into one and making her look more "conventional" would just be selling the character out.

Ideally, I'd like to see a shift from "evil teammate" to "anti-heroine."  Still mean-spirited and violent, but willing to show some restraint, and more open to working as part of a team with others.  She's still not going to get along with most people, but you can trust her to watch your back.


Lol agreed.

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 So hey everyone, thread founder here. I haven't been active really in this thread at all since it got big. I kind of thought it was going to get buried after the 200th post (you can see how I was trying to repeated bump it). 

But it hasn't! AWESOME. However, I haven't done my duty as thread to properly promote Jack and Jack fandom. So if theres anything on this thread that is particularly OP worthy, please grab the link and PM me. I mainly spend my time in the classes and Builds forum working on my video guides, so I don't come to this section too much, mainly because my computer crashes at the sight of all the Tali weirdness out there.

So please PM me if you have something that is OP worthy. I will do my best to put it in there. 


There are some pictures of Jack in the last 3-5 pages. You could put some of them in the OP.

Modifié par Jackal904, 28 février 2010 - 12:33 .


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I've said it before, I'll say it again... if Shep (well, my main Femme-Shep at least - she's still carying a torch for a blue monogendered information-broker) was to take a well-derserved break at the end of ME3, and the Council asked for a recommendation to fill in as a human Spectre...

"Ah yes, 'Reapers'..."

"Oh, go **** yourself."

And if Wrex was on the Council too... air-quotes would be a thing of the past. What a bright future of explosive violence and profanity it would be... glorious ;)

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Mondo47 wrote...

I've said it before, I'll say it again... if Shep (well, my main Femme-Shep at least - she's still carying a torch for a blue monogendered information-broker) was to take a well-derserved break at the end of ME3, and the Council asked for a recommendation to fill in as a human Spectre...

"Ah yes, 'Reapers'..."

"Oh, go **** yourself."

And if Wrex was on the Council too... air-quotes would be a thing of the past. What a bright future of explosive violence and profanity it would be... glorious ;)


Lol. I think even spectres have too many rules for Jack.

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So, I got around to doing something I've been meaning to do for a while: figuring out how to use Texmod, and use it to extract Jack's skin file to get a good look at her tattoos.  Lots of interesting stuff you can't really see that well in the game.  I'd upload them to my Photobucket, but they might be considered copyright, so I'll play it safe.  If you want to do it too, just find Texmod online, and use this video tutorial to figure out how to extract the textures.

Some of my observations:  First off... there was a guy a few pages back who posted about Jack's scars, including a big one running down her back.  I remember thinking, "Is this guy crazy?  I never saw any scars."  Well, now that I can look at the texture up close, and I see what he was talking about.  She' has a lot of scars, including a big one running down her front, and one on the side of her head as well; some of her tattoos are sort of drawn around them, so she probably had them before she started getting inked.  I imagine a lot of them are from Cerberus's experimentations, which makes what happened there even more chilling; they must have basically carved up her entire body.  Interestingly enough, some of the tattoos are broken up by scars, so it looks like she has a mix of pre and post facility scars.

Also, I may have to revise my thing about not wanting Jack to grow hair.  Because getting a good, close-up look of her "past selves" on her arm, she has a history of unconventional hairstyles.  A few mohawks, cornrows, dreadlocks... I've always had a thing for unique haircuts, and I wouldn't mind seeing Jack sporting any of those do's in the future.

There's a lot of interesting things in there.  A lot of numbers, a set of teardrops on her back (probably keeping count of her kills, before she lost count :)), all of it makes me hope even more she's back for 3, just to get a few of them explained.

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Jackal904 wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

I've said it before, I'll say it again... if Shep (well, my main Femme-Shep at least - she's still carying a torch for a blue monogendered information-broker) was to take a well-derserved break at the end of ME3, and the Council asked for a recommendation to fill in as a human Spectre...

"Ah yes, 'Reapers'..."

"Oh, go **** yourself."

And if Wrex was on the Council too... air-quotes would be a thing of the past. What a bright future of explosive violence and profanity it would be... glorious ;)


Lol. I think even spectres have too many rules for Jack.


And how many movie cops play by the rules? She'd be like Harry Callahan/Detective Azuma in space! The Council constantly riding her ass about all the crap she keeps blowing up, all the bad guys she keeps blowing away instead of bringing in, constantly disconnecting comms or sassing them...

Face it, the Council have kinda earned the headache ;)

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I'm glad she died at the end.


............only if you let her..........same applies to all your party.

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Jackal904 wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

I've said it before, I'll say it again... if Shep (well, my main Femme-Shep at least - she's still carying a torch for a blue monogendered information-broker) was to take a well-derserved break at the end of ME3, and the Council asked for a recommendation to fill in as a human Spectre...

"Ah yes, 'Reapers'..."

"Oh, go **** yourself."

And if Wrex was on the Council too... air-quotes would be a thing of the past. What a bright future of explosive violence and profanity it would be... glorious ;)


Lol. I think even spectres have too many rules for Jack.


well, not so much, they basically get paid to guard the galaxy THEIR way, regardless of how, and they are exempt from many laws if they get the job done.

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BobbyTheI wrote...

So, I got around to doing something I've been meaning to do for a while: figuring out how to use Texmod, and use it to extract Jack's skin file to get a good look at her tattoos.  Lots of interesting stuff you can't really see that well in the game.  I'd upload them to my Photobucket, but they might be considered copyright, so I'll play it safe.  If you want to do it too, just find Texmod online, and use this video tutorial to figure out how to extract the textures.

Some of my observations:  First off... there was a guy a few pages back who posted about Jack's scars, including a big one running down her back.  I remember thinking, "Is this guy crazy?  I never saw any scars."  Well, now that I can look at the texture up close, and I see what he was talking about.  She' has a lot of scars, including a big one running down her front, and one on the side of her head as well; some of her tattoos are sort of drawn around them, so she probably had them before she started getting inked.  I imagine a lot of them are from Cerberus's experimentations, which makes what happened there even more chilling; they must have basically carved up her entire body.  Interestingly enough, some of the tattoos are broken up by scars, so it looks like she has a mix of pre and post facility scars.

Also, I may have to revise my thing about not wanting Jack to grow hair.  Because getting a good, close-up look of her "past selves" on her arm, she has a history of unconventional hairstyles.  A few mohawks, cornrows, dreadlocks... I've always had a thing for unique haircuts, and I wouldn't mind seeing Jack sporting any of those do's in the future.

There's a lot of interesting things in there.  A lot of numbers, a set of teardrops on her back (probably keeping count of her kills, before she lost count :)), all of it makes me hope even more she's back for 3, just to get a few of them explained.


Just post the pics I don't think you'll have to worry about any copyright stuff. I don't see what you're doing illegal. You're just trying to get a better look at her scars and tatoos.

But if Jack grows a mohawk, cornrows, or dreadlocks, I may just have to feed her to the seeker swarms at the end of ME2... I despise all three of those hairdo's.

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Jackal904 wrote...

Just post the pics I don't think you'll have to worry about any copyright stuff. I don't see what you're doing illegal. You're just trying to get a better look at her scars and tatoos.

But if Jack grows a mohawk, cornrows, or dreadlocks, I may just have to feed her to the seeker swarms at the end of ME2... I despise all three of those hairdo's.


I would support this idea, especially as I cant get this tutorial video to work, because youtube is giving me the "This is not available in your country" treatment.
And I would really like to check this out close, because I also posted about the scars a while back. It is really hard to judge this ingame, because there also are definitely some of these red lines on her that look more like tattoos.

@BobbytheI: I hope I´m not demanding too much of you, if you don't want to do it thats fine too. :)
Actually I would like to take this opportunity to compliment you on the way you dealt with that troll a few days ago. Great work !

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Some of the tattoos have the look of circuit diagrams and have serial numbers - I'd assume those are among the pre-escape ones... mapping implant positions, EZo-laced nerve bundles...

The one I can't stand though is that scar around the back of her neck... makes me wince every time I see it. It doesn't have that neat quality of surgical scarring. Looks more like someone tried to carve her head off once...