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Mondo47 wrote...

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Other than that, cut Morrigan some slack.


Nothing to do with her, she might have been a pain in the ass, but she wasn't why I ended up hating the game... I'm more sore the game made me, after deciding to be a lesbian because the male love interests were singularly vapid or irritating (or both in Alistair's case), put me in a position where I had to sacrifice myself for the good of the world (and my other options were either allow the birth of a monster that might one day destroy the world, or let a venomous coward retain his honour in death and deny the realm the king it needs... punishment for being moral, whatever next...). I stopped enjoying the game roughly five minutes after carving Loghain's worthless head off in front of his daughter and giving it to Shale to squish.

Some "choices", Bioware. I'm going home and I'm taking my ball with me, don't wanna play with you no more :crying:


I didn't care for Morrigan at first, but she grew on me. I like the Defrosting Ice Queen type character developments. My first playthrough was as Fem City Elf who romanced Alistair (I didn't find him to be too annoying; just dorkish). 'Course I'm right there with ya on the self-sacrifice thing, no way was I gonna compromise my morals by having my characters boyfriend sleep with someone he hated and spawn a demon baby. No matter how much I like Morrigan, it just wasn't going to happen.

Once Awakening was announced, I decided to make a Male Human Noble who romanced Morrigan and agreed to her little ritual because he was a love sick fool and wanted to live (so I could carry over a save file). Of course, then I find out that Awakening cheapens the sacrificed Warden's death by bringing her back with no explanation whatsoever, meaning I just wasted 60 hours of my life for no apparent reason. Damn you, Bioware.

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This is like high school all over again. I walk into a room, people are talking, but what they're saying is strange and foreign to me.

Though I recognise that the narrative arc of DA is a far more interesting subject than steel rims and Nicolas Cage's hairstyles.

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LiquidGrape wrote...

This is like high school all over again. I walk into a room, people are talking, but what they're saying is strange and foreign to me.
Though I recognise that the narrative arc of DA is a far more interesting subject than steel rims and Nicolas Cage's hairstyles.


Sorry Grapey, I've stopped now though ;)

Here, let's get things back in the right game at least with a jolly Motivational!

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Mondo47 wrote...

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@JD,

I wonder about that scar a lot.  Did someone attempt to cut her throat?    Is it from some kind of neck-restraint (collar)?

Good question, that was one of the reasons I uploaded it.  It's hard to tell with that angle.  The scar doesn't seem to go all the way around her neck, but I can't tell for sure.  So that gives me the impression that it was a cut/gash of some sorts.  With that said though, the scarring that we can see, also looks like something similar to what a collar could do.



Well if you look at the entire back of her neck it's clear that it was from surgery. Most likely an implant on her neck or the base of her skull done during her time at Teltin.



I'm not so sure the neck one is a Teltin leftover; compare it to all the other large scars, which have a very uniform colouration, are very straight and precise, and are (presumably) stretched by Jack's growth over the years. The one on her neck seems not to have a single contiguous line to it - it has fits and starts, almost as though something has sawn into her flesh manually (while the large scars have so much precision that a machine could have carved them). It has healed differently also; it's still like a canyon in her skin compared to every other scar which has become hypertrophic (suggesting no loss of tissue beneath the injury). The atrophic nature of the neck wound suggests something came out instead of went in...

Maybe one of her prisons lowjacked inmates in the neck and a tracker needed digging out? Or a malfunctioning or damaged implant needed removing? Maybe someone dug one of her implants out forcibly? Or some villain just held her down and did an ugly hatchet job of trying to saw her head off?

For all we know it might be from Teltin, but because of it's difference from the others I'm not entirely convinced. I just know that's the one that makes me wince the most.


Well here's what it looks like from a skin rip that someone posted a long time ago.

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It does indeed look less precise than her obvious surgical scars. But considering the T shape of it, I can't imagine it would be anything other than surgical scarring. And it makes sense that she would have an implant there. But like you said, considering the impreciseness of it, it could be from a surgery post-Teltin.

As for the meaning of Jack's tattoos. Sure it would be interesting to find the reason for specific tattoos, but I'm content just knowing that there is a meaningful story behind each. To have Jack explain the story behind every tattoo would be unreasonable and very anti-climactic.

Oh and for the record, I find Allistair to be very funny :D. Honestly, I would not have played as much DA:O as I have if it weren't for him. Everyone is so depressing but he's pretty happy-go-lucky and he jokes around often and I like that. I'm not very far in the game (I don't think), and I don't care about the ending getting spoiled for me because I will probably never finish DA:O. I can only handle so many menues before I fall asleep with the game running.

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Aaaahhhh! Since we never see the downstroke on it thanks to the collar of the nipple-halter... yes, that could well be good old-fashioned hand-made surgical scarring. I'll stand by my 'removal as opposed to implantation' theory though, thanks to it being atrophic unlike the others...

Maybe once upon a time someone had that implant removed without understanding her implants are multicores... all they did was dig one out. Ooops. Here come the pain (again)... :D

Sorry about my DA rant, Jack - I've gone back and popped a spoiler warning on my little tirade. never occured to me than anyone in here wouldn't have played the damnable thing! :whistle:

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It could be a particular implant that Jack herself wanted removed, hence the rather backyard alley surgical precision we see with it.

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Mondo47 wrote...


Maybe once upon a time someone had that implant removed without understanding her implants are multicores... all they did was dig one out. Ooops. Here come the pain (again)... :D

Sorry about my DA rant, Jack - I've gone back and popped a spoiler warning on my little tirade. never occured to me than anyone in here wouldn't have played the damnable thing! :whistle:


...falling on my head like a violentrecollectionofmytraumaticupbringing...
Just imagine it's Lennox singing it. It works.

And I didn't mind the DA rant; as I said, it's pretty interesting despite my lack of hands-on experience.

I just feel obliged to address an issue I have with that Jack texture-sheet...is it just me, or does what I presume to be her golden earpiece look rather...suggestive?

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 23 mai 2010 - 08:47 .


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It looks like a dong?

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Suggestive in what way?

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Sigh, but that's what the earpiece looks like when it's been unwrapped and given enough bleed [pixel space in other words] for texturing. And yes it's you Grape.  It looks like a toy.

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Is Jack's examination by Dr. Chakwas on the back burner?  I was just thinking that maybe the Dr. could ask her about a couple of her tattoos.

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...Why do I get the feeling this is a conversation I will have again in five years lying on a divan?

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

@Mondo
Is Jack's examination by Dr. Chakwas on the back burner?  I was just thinking that maybe the Dr. could ask her about a couple of her tattoos.


Mondo already wrote that, didn't she?  It had a great ending.

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yorkj86 wrote...

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Is Jack's examination by Dr. Chakwas on the back burner?  I was just thinking that maybe the Dr. could ask her about a couple of her tattoos.


Mondo already wrote that, didn't she?  It had a great ending.

She wrote about Jack going to see her about headaches I believe.  It ended with the Dr. wanting her to come back for an examination, leaving it open for further writing.  Or was there a second part that I missed?

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She wrote about Jack going to see her about headaches I believe.  It ended with the Dr. wanting her to come back for an examination, leaving it open for further writing.  Or was there a second part that I missed?


No, that's the one I thought you meant.

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I'm just gonna ignore that shot about religions.


I don't think Epi meant it that way, Geth. I think it wasn't so much about religions as Leliana. Now I'm not a religious person, and I wouldn't mock or judge someone for being religious - it's their call, more power to them. But Leliana's faith did seem to be one of convenience; in my eyes at least it did seem like she joined the church to help people and to perhaps a little less altruistically escape her past... in my book, that's not why you embrace a religion. Maybe I was reading it wrong, but it smacked of hypocracy a little. Am I right there, Epants?


I'm sorry my words have been misunderstood. I wasn't talking about religion in general, but about Leliana's faith: first, the whole vision thing sounded too convenient, second, right from the start you're given the opportunity to ask her some questions about her religion ( "why do you pray to Andraste if the Maker Himself does
not care about mortals?" which is, actually, a quite interesting
question) and instead of replying, she says the conversation is over and a nice "Leliana disapproves -5" appears. I had the feeling that her faith was hollow, nothing but a mask. Of course with time it becomes clear that Leliana DOES really believe in the Maker, but I was higly skeptical about everything she said.

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Epantiras wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Gethforceone wrote...

I'm just gonna ignore that shot about religions.


I don't think Epi meant it that way, Geth. I think it wasn't so much about religions as Leliana. Now I'm not a religious person, and I wouldn't mock or judge someone for being religious - it's their call, more power to them. But Leliana's faith did seem to be one of convenience; in my eyes at least it did seem like she joined the church to help people and to perhaps a little less altruistically escape her past... in my book, that's not why you embrace a religion. Maybe I was reading it wrong, but it smacked of hypocracy a little. Am I right there, Epants?


I'm sorry my words have been misunderstood. I wasn't talking about religion in general, but about Leliana's faith: first, the whole vision thing sounded too convenient, second, right from the start you're given the opportunity to ask her some questions about her religion ( "why do you pray to Andraste if the Maker Himself does
not care about mortals?" which is, actually, a quite interesting
question) and instead of replying, she says the conversation is over and a nice "Leliana disapproves -5" appears. I had the feeling that her faith was hollow, nothing but a mask. Of course with time it becomes clear that Leliana DOES really believe in the Maker, but I was higly skeptical about everything she said.

/off topic

Sorry, my bad.

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Gethforceone wrote...

Sorry, my bad.


No problem ;-)


Oh well, in order to counterbalance the amout of off topicness I've added to the thread, I'll let you take a look at what I'm working on these days...


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Sweet! Alternate outfit jack without the annoying shades. B)

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What's that she's holding, her glasses?



Looks good by the way.

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Draw faster Ep!

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yorkj86 wrote...

Thinking about what Jack would look like in a Flapper's outfit after seeing that picture of Jack wearing the pink hat, I  thought I'd just put both Jack and Shepard in period outfits, show them dancing, and see how it would look.  This is the last picture of Jack in a dress, I swear, and the last picture of Shepard in a zoot suit.

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Thanks,  Epantiras.


How did this get no-sold?  This is cuter than a pailful of kittens.  I've seen pailfuls of kittens and they are not as cute as this picture.  The Zelda and Scott vibe is never not a good thing.

As long as we're on the subject of DA:O, first off, wouldn't Miranda be Space Morrigan?  Cold, distant, allergic to altruism, formed by artificial means?

And secondly, the Awakenings expansion?  Nowhere near as bad as everyone has made it out to be. 

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Reminds me of that guy's expression on that fake WWII "U.S. Dept. of Psy Ops"  poster.

"CRUSH CERBERUS
WITH YOUR MIND"

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yorkj86 wrote...
Reminds me of that guy's expression on that fake WWII "U.S. Dept. of Psy Ops"  poster.

"CRUSH CERBERUS
WITH YOUR MIND"


You mean this?

[img]http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_k07pirzBU34/S2sct9qQtdI/AAAAAAAADjE/5tHw5UQ43fg/s400/psyops_poster.jpg&ei=Arb5S77qAo_ANt3f6KIF&sa=X&oi=image_landing_page_redirect&ct=legacy&usg=AFQjCNEo8h33umpYhVS5RuHHGbbqncLu-g[/img]

I can see this resemblence. Jack's is better though, I think. [img]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/img]

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I was thinking of the "CRUSH THE GERMANS" version, but they're pretty much the same thing.