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[Collider]

Most likely, the movie is going to bomb either in the box office or with the critics or both. Bad reception is going to make a sequel less likely. I expect the movie to be terrible. If the movie isn't popular with Bioware fans, a sequel to a terrible movie likely isn't going to be popular either.

[royceclemens]

Hmmm... The only thing that really worries me is Protosevich as the writer. The guy's a hack, and yeah he's great when he's writing for himself on spec (like THE CELL, which was deeply underrated), but when a producer picks him up and tells him to write a specific property, you get anemic crap like POSEIDON, I AM LEGEND and that Christ-awful draft of the upcoming THOR movie that I reviewed for a website a couple of years ago.

But in principle, I am in no way bothered by an ME movie. It's more suited than most. But the "you got movie in my canon" argument holds precious damn little water with me. I'm gonna say what Raymond Chandler said when someone asked him how he felt about how Hollywood ruined his books. "They're not ruined. They're over there on the shelf."

The fact of the matter is that people who never played the game wouldn't know all the choices you could have made while they're watching the movie, so it won't matter to them. The fans of the game have played every single permutation of the games they could, so they won't be seeing anything in the movie they wouldn't have seen on their TV or on their computer beforehand. If they didn't like what they saw in the movie and wanted a story more tailored to their ideals and their favorite characters, they have every ability to make one just by popping in the game. The movie in and of itself is harmless.

Of course, further development of an ME movie depends entirely how well PoP does this weekend. Those wondering about the future of an ME movie would do well to check the weekend box office figures come Monday.

Modifié par royceclemens, 25 mai 2010 - 02:56 .

[Jackal904]

axl99 wrote...

So the Jean Claude Van Damme Street Fighter movie was good? As well as that Chun Li spinoff one? As well as the one of Super Mario? Double Dragon? Hitman? Tomb Raider? Silent Hill? Need I go on?

I know nothing about the Street Fighter movie, I didn't even know it existed. Same with whatever the hell Chun Li is. The Super Mario Bros movie was awesome. Idk what Double Dragon is. I heard the Tomb Raider movies were pretty good, and so was the Silent Hill movie. And Hitman is an amazing movie, now I think you're just hating on game to film movies for the sake of it. Which I think it was a lot of people do.

Modifié par Jackal904, 25 mai 2010 - 02:54 .

[axl99]

I just want a good story with good characters. No corners cut. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[And for the record, yes, I'm a bit of a flim snob. It comes with my profession as a storyboard artist, it's my livelihood to be a stickler for good storytelling.]

Granted not everyone might be happy with how the movie turns out, but hey whatever. There were worse movie adaptations before of the Uwe Boll variety. That said, I'm pretty sure the ME flick won't be as bad as THAT.

Modifié par axl99, 25 mai 2010 - 02:55 .

[Razorsedge820]

MHRazer wrote...

Wow, it looks like the Mass Effect movie is actually going to be made.

They could either go the route of retelling the story of ME1-3, or maybe they'll do it in more of a spin-off story. I guess it's time for us to ramp up the discussion of "Who should play Jack?" more than we already have. (See: Natalie Portman)

kotaku.com/5546778/mass-effect-the-movie-is-really-happening

[MHRazer]

Razorsedge820 wrote...

MHRazer wrote...

Wow, it looks like the Mass Effect movie is actually going to be made.

They could either go the route of retelling the story of ME1-3, or maybe they'll do it in more of a spin-off story. I guess it's time for us to ramp up the discussion of "Who should play Jack?" more than we already have. (See: Natalie Portman)

kotaku.com/5546778/mass-effect-the-movie-is-really-happening

Don't shoot the messenger 


I basically agree with royce. If they at least put a fair amount of effort into the movie, as it seems they have with Prince of Persia, I think it will at least be good enough for me to go out and see it. Unless they completely botch the whole thing up, I'm looking forward to it. Worst that happens is it turns out to have been a not so great movie, and I go on with life. I'm not going to get all worked up over the possibility that they'll alter some element of the story in a way that's not to my liking, I'll just enjoy the movie for what it is. If they really go down some route I don't agree with, I'll go home, play through the game again, and say "THAT'S how it really went, world!" 

Whether they do or do not include a romance... well, I think they probably will, if only to make it a more appealing movie to the masses. People like an element of romance generally, and to those who haven't played the game (or the lucky ones who chose to romance whoever they go with in the movie) it would be a plus. And hey, if they want a deep romance to add to the plot... they'll go with Jack!  

(Fat chance)

[royceclemens]

axl99 wrote...

I just want a good story with good characters. No corners cut. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[And for the record, yes, I'm a bit of a flim snob. It comes with my profession as a storyboard artist, it's my livelihood to be a stickler for good storytelling.]

Granted not everyone might be happy with how the movie turns out, but hey whatever. There were worse movie adaptations before of the Uwe Boll variety. That said, I'm pretty sure the ME flick won't be as bad as THAT.

Plus with Casey Hudson listed as an Executive Producer, the odds of Jack being the main LI of the whole damned movie trilogy just went up quite a bit.

Modifié par royceclemens, 25 mai 2010 - 03:07 .

[axl99]

I saw the thread where they had most of the ME character models ripped from the game and packaged with models, textures, and skeletal meshes to use in the Unreal Engine. Insanity.



The blue eyes thing also happened with Jacob too. I wonder if they just modded the diffuse texture as is?

[MHRazer]

axl99 wrote...

I saw the thread where they had most of the ME character models ripped from the game and packaged with models, textures, and skeletal meshes to use in the Unreal Engine. Insanity.

The blue eyes thing also happened with Jacob too. I wonder if they just modded the diffuse texture as is?

Which thread is that? 

[axl99]

This one.

[ChanceRandom]

Miri fans forgive me but this is funny as hell....

[Pacifien]

I'm not going to dismiss the possibility that a video game can be done well as a movie. There was a time when no one considered that a comic book could be done justice as a movie. All it takes are people willing to take the concept seriously. How I would have liked to have seen Neill Blomkamp direct Halo based on his short film concept.

However, announcing that Mass Effect is in some pre-production phase doesn't mean we'll be looking at a movie next year. Or the year after that. Or even the year after that. Or that the people attached to the project will stick with the project. And listing Bioware gurus as producers doesn't mean much, have you ever actually looked at a listing of producers on some movies? They probably get producer credit just for being involved in the source material.

Anyway, I could go either way on a Mass Effect movie. The very fact they want to make one doesn't bespeak disaster to me.

I have no idea how to make this post relate in anyway to Jack. Ah, off-topic it is.

[axl99]

Royce jokingly mentioned Jack's chances of being in a ME flick go up because Casey Hudson would also be producing the movie. I honestly wonder if that'll happen, likely not, but I'd be laughing if it did. Not just because it'd be freakishly outlandish, but it'd be kinda freakishly outlandishly awesome.

There's plenty of comic book titles that have film rights bought out by film companies. Even a couple of indie titles, mind you. Ideas are a dime a dozen, it's just finding the right one that will net you a few hundred million a pop.

Pre-production phase I'll bet will probably take a year or two, maybe less since much of the concept material and schematics have already been made.... Unless they're doing things from scratch.

Modifié par axl99, 25 mai 2010 - 04:51 .

[adriano_c]

Jackal904 wrote...

Idk what Double Dragon is.

Tsk tsk.

[LiquidGrape]

What really worries me about a possible film adaptation is how likely it is that it'll end up as crap.
As an interactive experience, Mass Effect is jolly good sci-fi fun, with some nice inter-character relations thrown into the mix.
Take that away for the convenience of a linear narrative, and you're left with the wishwash storyline.

I've speculated in this before; and the only way I can see it potentially being worth the price of admission would be if Foster is cast as Shepard, and they get an interesting filmmaker to direct, such as David Cronenberg.
I would suggest Ridley Scott, but I don't know what happened to that guy.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 25 mai 2010 - 07:54 .

[adriano_c]

Ridley Scott?



I think he's working on the Alien prequel.

[LiquidGrape]

adriano_c wrote...

Ridley Scott?

I think he's working on the Alien prequel.

Reason enough to be worried...but what I meant was; from proving to be one of the few true visionaires of contemporary western cinema in films such as Alien and Blade Runner, he's gone on to produce thoroughly unremarkable pieces in the spirit of Kingdom of Heaven and A Good Year.
I'm not saying that his recent body of work is bad per se; but it definitely lacks scope and invention.

Oh! New suggestion for director; Kathryn Bigelow.
I could definitely see that work.

[adriano_c]

Her CV's rather...unspectacular.

[Booglarize]

What's this, they're making a movie? Well, that's that - Mass Effect is officially ruined forever.

[Mondo47]

Ok, can I have this on record now as my Predictions of How By-The-Numbers Any ME Movie (Series) Will Be?

So, assuming the dolts with dollar signs in their eyes follow the game's main events in the slightest...

*ahem*

Mass Effect

1) Tough luck, Ashley-Fans - because I'm willing to bet that the studio script will plump for Liara as the entire saga's overall love interest, they'll have to weed out the competition in a noble sacrifice, so Ash will get to sit on the Virmire bomb.

2) Wrex fans will also get the shaft as he will doubtless be maginalised as an overly-bloodthirsty killing machine and an example of a "bad alien" (read foreign national whose homeland requires the guidance of the democratic, capitalistic world to teach it how to play with its toys properly... go on, read between the lines, folks).

3) Tali fans will get shafted even worse - Quarian = lame exposition vehicle for the Geth-sections of the backstory.

4) Liara will be the hot alien bookworm gagging for a bit of prime earthman (and provider of Prothean exposition when she's not making moon-eyes at Shep... no change there then).

5) Garrus and Kaidan will be Shep's horse and Sancho Panza respectively as he tilts against the windmill of Sovereign. Garrus following Shep's lead always, and Kaidan being his moral compass for the audience's benefit.

6) In other news, the Rachni Queen will be released (and give Wrex a chance to rant about it, reinforcing his unmerciful, undemocratic (chuckle chuckle) alien stereotype. Saren will be voiced by some suitably good actor well on his way to complete typecasting hell (Hugo Weaving, then). The Council can breathe a sigh of relief because Shep will let good ol' Humanity show the galaxy the downright big-balled-ness of its military and how truly rightious democratic, capitalistic nations truly are - hurrah!

Mass Effect 2

1) Oh Jackolytes... break out your hankies. Our gal is doomed; doomed not to get with Shep (maybe a makeout scene that Shep will, in all his nobility, break off) and doomed to die in the Suicide Mission and tell Shep with her last breath what a swell guy he was and how she would have happily made the sickeningly pathetic, submissive male fantasy ho-into-housewife transition for him. We'd better take sickbags too for that scene. And she'll probably have a protopunk hairstyle too. Can't have too many love interests complicating things...

2) Cry into your goldfish bowls, Talimancers - no Hollywood blockbuster is going to try and float a romance with an alien that spends all her screentime dressed as a skindiver, especially when the movie eye-candy comes in a Miranda-shaped bottle. Do the exposition about the Flotilla and be happy you even got that.

3) Miranda fans can celebrate. Because Liara is being "odd" about Shep's death and resurrection, he'll fall conveniently into the arms of the hot chick (because it's what the male teenage demographic will want - face facts, women in these kinds of blockbuster will only be there for the three S's: smiling, screaming and screwing).

4) Kaidan will haul his captain over the ashes for being with Cerberus, while Garrus will just drop back into being Garrus. Jacob is a bit of a fifth-wheel, so he'll buy it in the Suicide Mission (potentially at least - bets are off a little in the last episode).

5) Wrex will have embraced democracy and capitalism and become a grumpy old loveable uncle character, leading the Krogan to a new way of living just like everyone else...  fingers down throat, blargh!

6) Liara will be distant and strange still, but there'll be so much sexual tension you'll think she's going to mount Shep on the desk there and then, but... not for another episode folks...

7) Grunt will be like Jar-Jar Binks with a steroid habit; big, strong, angry comic relief. Mordin will be brainiac comic relief. Legion will be a slightly eerie robot. I want to cry already...

8) Everyone else will buy it in the Suicide Mission (Thane will go no doubt holding a position against impossible odds, Jacob will catch a bullet, Jack will get a soppy death, Samara will go out like a cut-rate Obi-Wan with boobs, Mordin might get snuffed too. Kelly will always be the one we see getting goo-ified; because she's so nice it'll just drive home how much of a bag of bastards the Collectors are.

9) The Illusive Man will be just like the game incarnation - it's the only thing they'll get right because he's so damn two-dimensional.

Mass Effect 3 - The Final Insult

1) While we all know nothing at this point, I'm willing to bet Shep caps TIM, beats the Reapers once and for all, and all will be well in the galaxy. Miranda will see how much Shep really loves Liara, and will be so sanguine about the relationship and how Shep is 'meant to be with the blue gal' she'll let him go without any sense of identity, allowing Shep to reconcile with Liara and cue the big happy ending and roll the credits.


Now I want to be wrong here. Totally and utterly wrong. I don't want any of the crap above to come to pass. But, considering the way the studios treat properties that come from video games... part of me just thinks that at least half of the lowest-common-denominator junk above will end up in the movie. Sure, it'll be a fairly entertaining popcorn flick, but it will never, ever, be all that it can be, nor will it come close to our experience as gamers.

Unless the movie is scored by Wyld Stallyns, directed by someone with an eye, half a brain, and who isn't obsessed with visual effects, and has Jack with her iconic shaved head and tattoos... I'll be giving it a miss until it gets a DVD release.

[axl99]

If the ME flick gets itself a good music team to work on the film score, I hope it's either one of the three:



- the Wall of Sound team [who made the ME soundtracks to begin with]

- Two Steps from Hell [who had the Heart of Courage track for the ME2 red carpet trailer]

- E.S Posthumous

[Mondo47]

I picked a band that doesn't even exist due to my confidence in the studio system getting anything right these days...

Cynical? Moi?