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[adriano_c]

Tali could cover the toilets, I'm sure. She's a (sanitation) engineer.

-edit. Oh, and she already has the mask covered, as well.

Modifié par adriano_c, 26 mai 2010 - 03:40 .

[Jackal904]

That's a good idea for a funny fanfic. Immature high school-like antics amongst squadmates . Someone writing "Calibrate This" on Garrus's underwear and making Thane constantly slip into memories, stuff like that .

[Pacifien]

Jackal904 wrote...
That's a good idea for a funny fanfic. Immature high school-like antics amongst squadmates . Someone writing "Calibrate This" on Garrus's underwear and making Thane constantly slip into memories, stuff like that .

Reminds me of an adventure with Ugly Shepard.

RigAudio wrote...
Screw him, thought Ugly Shepard. He didn't need him anyway. He went to ask Mordin if he knew who had made that sign. Mordin said he didn't know.

Mordin wins all.

Modifié par Pacifien, 26 mai 2010 - 03:50 .

[Razorsedge820]

Where should Shepard take Jack out on their first date?

I would go with a bowling ally and it must have a bar. I can picture Jack getting pissed after rolling 5 straight gutter balls and then cheats by using a shock-wave to knock down the pins. Plus the beer and junk food would definitely please Jack. Throw in a bar fight and jack would have the time of her life. I wonder how Jack would react when she realizes she can have a blast without killing something?

Modifié par Razorsedge820, 26 mai 2010 - 04:01 .

[axl99]

She'd be like a kid in a candy store.



Depending on the Shepard, he might take Jack on a hover-car ride down the wrong side of the highway upside-down. And when people ask questions, he just waves his Spectre-status around and they all clam up.



Urd's fanfiction made me think of the battle simulators at Pinnacle station. It'd be like an arcade on steroids for the both of them.

[Pwnisher]

I could just imagine what she would do if she was a cook. I mean, she would probably spit in the food right before she served it and I could also see her saying "come and get your grub you cerberus pigs!"

[Pacifien]

Pwnisher wrote...
I could just imagine what she would do if she was a cook. I mean, she would probably spit in the food right before she served it and I could also see her saying "come and get your grub you cerberus pigs!"

I don't know why that image amuses me as much as it does. Maybe it's the thought of Ken Donnelly saying it tastes like mighty fine ass afterwards.

[Pacifien]

Razorsedge820 wrote...
Where should Shepard take Jack out on their first date?

I think I promised that Jack and Shepard would climb a tree together, so their first date is an impromptu walk along the Presidium, some shopping at Delan's Emporium, an averted confrontation between Jack and a hanar preacher, swimming across the lake to take a holo picture standing next to the Krogan statue, vandalism of an AVINA terminal, followed by the mentioned tree climb before a C-Sec officer finally says they need to take it elsewhere.

Afterall, Jack didn't get much of a childhood and Shepard possibly didn't either, so I can see the foray into the role of punk kids.

Modifié par Pacifien, 26 mai 2010 - 04:30 .

[Gethforceone]

Razorsedge820 wrote...

Where should Shepard take Jack out on their first date?

I would go with a bowling ally and it must have a bar. I can picture Jack getting pissed after rolling 5 straight gutter balls and then cheats by using a shock-wave to knock down the pins. Plus the beer and junk food would definitely please Jack. Throw in a bar fight and jack would have the time of her life. I wonder how Jack would react when she realizes she can have a blast without killing something?

IMO any "date" would most likely involve a shootout, something like a raid on a merc base.

[MHRazer]

Razorsedge820 wrote...

Where should Shepard take Jack out on their first date?

A petting zoo. <3

[adriano_c]

Laxatives? That's bush league. More like coating Miranda's French toast with whatever comes out of Grunt's nose during a flu.

-edit. Speaking of Grunt...I think he and Jack would make for quite the kitchen brigade.

Modifié par adriano_c, 26 mai 2010 - 05:28 .

[Pacifien]

Dextro-amino based jelly for everyone's toast!

[Errationatus]

Aww, what the hell, I like this character, and this is the thread to speak of these things. 

Since virtually no one will read this, I'll just rattle on.  I like these ideas, I think they have merit no one has really considered yet.  Someone might read it and hopefully I can contribute to some further excellent fiction and/or speculation from those who might take the time.  If not - *shrug* - I'm just killing time anyhoo.

So, since it now seems okay to speculate on Jack's past, I'll just run this up the flagpole again:

How would our perceptions of Jack change - both within the arc of ME2 and our own personal takes, if it turned out that Jack was - perhaps from contributed DNA (the Miranda connection folks are fond of, mixed with other equally potent folks, there would be a connection that neither would probably not like, if a small one) - purposefully and specifically grown for Teltin.

Perhaps she was one in a series, they screwing with her genes - (and eventually the only one to survive all the grafting and fiddling about) - and once they have a viable fetus, they grow her and then put her in a room of her own as a child (say around 5 years old) to await trials;  hence her saying her first memory was the room.  There aren't any before that.  That's when they woke her up the first time.  It literally is where her memories begin.

Jack begins as a blank slate, nothing more than a hoped-for potential weapon.  The other children were kidnapped and bought, and they isolate Jack to avoid any interaction that could give her the "wrong idea", keep her in line mentally with what they want.  As a female, perhaps she was slated as some future breeding stock for a larger program.  Maybe she still is.  (Imagine a story where Cerberus steals a Vanguard or AdeptShep's and Jack's child!  Mayhem?  Forgeddabouddit!)

She simply nipped all that in the bud with her escape.  You breed a liger and do nothing but poke it with sharp sticks all day everyday and eventually you're gonna get mauled and eaten.  When everyone else after your escape treats you like a freak, you don't learn to trust much or care about any of them.  Why would you?

I'm not saying that it happened, just musing.   To me, it would deepen both the tragedy of her beginnings and the strength of her character.  It would definitely colour her relationships - particularly with Shepard.  It would also explain her now - and all that "seeking an identity stuff" she was after in the past. 

As to Jack's mental state because of that? Jack is violent simply because that's all she was taught to be - not because there's any inherent psychosis - she certainly never struck me as particularly mentally unstable, not  with the strength of will, and the native intelligence she so obviously possesses.

Jack had no frame of reference - no context, really - to have been a child.  She was never meant to be one.   Thus it makes her trust enormously difficult to achieve and unbelievably precious to have - because it would be so tremendously fragile.  Jack is a hammer made out of tempered glass - strong, but hit it just so -  and it'll break.   It doesn't even need to be a hard hit - one only needs to know where precisely to aim the blow. 

Another uneasy thought:  remember all those amps and nodes implanted in her?  What if she were the realization of their feasibility and they - tried and tested - were transplanted into Shepard during his reconstruction (if he's played as anything remotely biotical)?  How would that tinge their relationship?  He's using things tested on tortured children and finally inflicted on Jack.   Can't be a comfortable feeling.

As for what might thrill Jack?  It is not always true that violent action-oriented people need constant danger and excitement as fuel.  Jack could be one of those to whom simply sitting under a tree on the grass in the warmth and quiet and watching a sunset, allowing the breeze and the light and the quiet to soothe her be all she needs.  This is, however, something intensely private, and to be allowed to share those moments with her would be... well, you'd've arrived. 

You'd be The One. 

Ramble over. 

[adriano_c]

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Not if you have your most hated squadi cleaning the toilets adriano.

Lately, I've actually managed to disassociate the Tali character from those weirdos that follow it, so I'm back to somewhat liking it.

However, the scenario of her cleaning up the latrine after Miranda and Samara have just gone through twelve rounds of "battle****s" is too amusing (to me) to pass up.

[Pacifien]

I'm not sure just how advanced research seems to be in growing a being. Miranda says she was grown, and her age being anywhere around 30, that puts the technology somewhere in humanity's infancy in Council space. Grunt was grown to full size, but the ability to implant knowledge into his brain seemed to be a unique technological advance on Okeer's part. So I gather a being can be grown, but development cannot be advanced until the subject is outside of the tube.

In the novel Ascension, Cerberus purposely creates element zero accidents to create biotic potentials, so I think a similar tactic was used for some of the Teltin children, possibly even Jack. I have to think this because I learned far too much about developmental psychology to believe Jack could begin as a true blank slate. I don't know, like railing against sound in space, ignorance would have been bliss.

Now Jack's mental state, it really doesn't take much to push her onto the slightly mentally fragile frame of mind. She has suffered an abusive childhood. That's gonna mess you up in some way.

As to what sort of surgical procedures they did for her biotics, no doubt that influenced how they improved Shepard's own biotics (assuming your Shepard has biotics) during reconstruction. I'm sure all kinds of questionable medical research and techniques were used to bring him back to life.

I have wondered about what Jack would do given perfect circumstances. Reapers dealt with. Shepard is there should she need him. She's been conditioned to enjoy the fight, but can she learn to get true enjoyment in other ways? Does a well cooked meal give her pleasure? Does a silent moment give her peace? Does the whirl of a ship's engines give her a rush? I actually don't know, can't even speculate.

[Andaius20]

[Andaius20]

Enjoy I just got don't recruiting her.

[Epantiras]

I'm not going to talk about the things I don't like about the idea of having a Mass Effect movie, I believe Mondo already said it all.

Anyway...

[Mondo47]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Pwnisher wrote...

I could just imagine what she would do if she was a cook. I mean, she would probably spit in the food right before she served it and I could also see her saying "come and get your grub you cerberus pigs!"

Ha ha yeah.  She would probably give Miranda a steak full of razor blades.

And for desert, chocolate cake with chocolate flavored laxative as icing.
Shepard wouldn't be able to bring Jacob or Miranda on any missions for several days, because they would have a serious case of the scours.

Jack cooking... oh, the tear-enducingly cute scene I just thought of!

The Normandy Galley, 18:36 Standard Operational Hours...


Shepard returns to his quarters to get a little downtime at close of duty. He enters his cabin, quickly checks his private terminal then heads across the room towards the bed. He pulls off his shirt and tosses it onto the sheets, is about to sit down and haul his boots off when he notices something on his desk. He moves to investigate.

On the desktop is a single dark-brown muffin, sat in a pleated paper case. The paper is slightly scorched, and one side of the cake is definately a little more well-done than the other. It's certainly not much of a looker too, as it is quite horribly lopsided as well as being slightly burned. Shepard picks it up, sniffs at it, and notes it has left sticky smears across his fingers.

Shep: (irritated) Ahhh...

He puts the muffin back down and sucks the tacky chocolate from his fingertips. He sees the note the muffin was sat on, scrawled in a somewhat scratchy hand. He reads -

Shep: (reading to self) Shepard, made this for you, know you like sweet sh*t. If it sucks, I don't want to know, if it's good, I have more. You know where to find me. Jack.

Shepard turns the paper over - there is more written on the other side.

Shep: Tell Gardner to chill out, too. I put the f*cking fire out.

Shepard picks up the muffin again and gently smiles to himself.

[Jackal904]

Haha nice one Mondo. How is that one fanfic you were teasing us with a while ago going btw? I'm not rushing you or anything, just wondering.