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Into the Bad Girl: Jack Fans

Débuté par Average Gatsby , févr. 05 2010 03:24

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Posté 29 mai 2010 - 10:27

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Mondo47 wrote...

Yowser. What's not to like? Meow indeed :D


Yeah...back when Burton was synonymous with niche and invention.
What happened to that guy? The last genuinely great film of his was Ed Wood, and that's 16 years ago.

Anywho; while we're on the topic of cinema, I bet you Jack would love Whale's original Frankenstein films. Though she wouldn't let anyone see the tears.

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Posté 29 mai 2010 - 11:06

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Where are all of the Jack fans at?  It's saturday night, everyone out partying?

"Ahhhhhhh shake it up baby!"

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Posté 29 mai 2010 - 11:44

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Good question...thread's been rather slow lately. Hopefully when I return in a couple of months there will be some interesting developments to read about.

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Posté 29 mai 2010 - 11:56

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Where're you going?

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 12:00

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yorkj86 wrote...

Where're you going?


Exactly what I was going to ask ^_^

Though in other news (and you guys know I hate going off-topic like this, but it's worthwhile considering our love of rebellious souls here)... Dennis Hopper is no longer with us. And I just sat and watched him in a movie without knowing this. I'm now polishing off the tailend of a bottle of John D in tribute. Cinema is an emptier place.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 12:02

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Mondo47 wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Where're you going?


Exactly what I was going to ask ^_^

Though in other news (and you guys know I hate going off-topic like this, but it's worthwhile considering our love of rebellious souls here)... Dennis Hopper is no longer with us. And I just sat and watched him in a movie without knowing this. I'm now polishing off the tailend of a bottle of John D in tribute. Cinema is an emptier place.


Gary Colmen passed too.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 12:06

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yorkj86 wrote...

Where're you going?


Backpacking across Asia starting Monday evening.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 12:06

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Mondo47 wrote...

Though in other news (and you guys know I hate going off-topic like this, but it's worthwhile considering our love of rebellious souls here)... Dennis Hopper is no longer with us. And I just sat and watched him in a movie without knowing this. I'm now polishing off the tailend of a bottle of John D in tribute. Cinema is an emptier place.


Indeed. I intend to celebrate his memory by watching him level out to Roy Orbison once more.
- Frank Booth is probably one of the most terrifying characters in cinema.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 12:13

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adriano_c wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...
Where're you going?

Backpacking across Asia starting Monday evening.

Hope your journey takes you to Ha Long Bay.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 12:22

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Vietnam was one of the intended stops, yeah, no specifics at the moment, though.



Regarding Dennis Hopper, his "Pop quiz, hotshot" line is a cinematic classic.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 12:26

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adriano_c wrote...
Vietnam was one of the intended stops, yeah, no specifics at the moment, though.

Southeast Asia in the summer. Heavy risks...

Ha Long Bay, Nha Trang, and Da Lat are my recommendations for Vietnam.

ETA: And one of my friends who wondered why I pulled up an article about Angkor Wat then suggested continuing on to Thailand to fight for justice. <_<  Though I did enjoy my time in Chiang Mai.

Modifié par Pacifien, 30 mai 2010 - 12:28 .

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 12:30

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Where on Earth do you think would be well suited for Jack? Where would she fit in? What do you think she'd like to see? She seems very much an urban jungle kind of gal. Probably doesn't want to see a typical jungle ever again.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 12:33

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Brazil, Thailand, Hong Kong, Sydney, Brussels, Vancouver...

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 12:53

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Pacifien wrote...

Southeast Asia in the summer. Heavy risks...

Ha Long Bay, Nha Trang, and Da Lat are my recommendations for Vietnam.

ETA: And one of my friends who wondered why I pulled up an article about Angkor Wat then suggested continuing on to Thailand to fight for justice. <_<  Though I did enjoy my time in Chiang Mai.


Yeah, all those places look pretty scenic. How long did you spend out there? At the moment, I'm most anxious to check out Tibet, though. Hopefully there's an easy workaround for the "official group tour" requirement when getting a permit...

Pacifien wrote...

Where on Earth do you think would be well suited for Jack? Where would she fit in? What do you think she'd like to see? She seems very much an urban jungle kind of gal. Probably doesn't want to see a typical jungle ever again.


I could see Jack pulling an Aria in Omega if she were to visit Rio de Janeiro.

-edit for formatting.

Modifié par adriano_c, 30 mai 2010 - 12:53 .

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 12:54

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Greetings Jack thread. I require some assistance.



I am currently working on a story, running through a possible story line for ME3. This will be similar to those old 'choose your own adventure' books, where at certain points the reader will be required to make a decision, which will bend the story in a different direction, making the story more personalized to each reader.



For this story I am trying to keep each character as true to their actual character as possible. Unfortunately I am not an expert on every character, and actually I know very little of the behavior/attitudes of many.

The help I require, is that I would appreciate if one, or a few, of you would help me to make sure that I keep Jack true to her character in this story. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 01:14

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adriano_c wrote...
Yeah, all those places look pretty scenic. How long did you spend out there? At the moment, I'm most anxious to check out Tibet, though. Hopefully there's an easy workaround for the "official group tour" requirement when getting a permit...

They were a few separate trips, so a couple days in one place, a couple weeks in another. Certainly not a two month backpacking trip, which I think is a considerably different (and awesome) experience. Vietnam was more of a personal trip to me, one where I spent half of my time in an unconditioned farmhouse cursing the monsoon gods for denying me the relief of rain.

Funny story, my visit to Chiang Mai was perhaps the coldest I have ever felt. Being soaked to the bone with a persistent mountain wind is a good way to experience misery.

Haven't been to Tibet. For all its social importance in today's world, the place has such a desolate vibe in the actual imagery.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 01:35

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It's the "roof of the world", though...can't beat that!

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 01:45

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Oh, man, am I going to have to type up everything I know about Jack, too, for you, CamoBadger?

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 01:48

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that would be nice York.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 02:03

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Out of all the character descriptions, Jack's is the only one where I would be compelled to write it in lengthy essay format. I wouldn't even know where to start without prompting.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 02:20

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Most of Jack's actual history can be found on her entry on the MEWiki, but that site doesn't allow for subjective analyses of characters.

Jack acts the way she does because it has kept her alive.  I think it's that simple.  Her abrasive, confrontational personality and rough appearance allow her to intimidate people and to keep them at a distance.  She tells us that each of her tattoos has a meaning.  Some she got done herself, others likely have a surgical significance to the doctors who worked on her at the Teltin Facility.  Some of her scars are hidden by tattoos.  Oher scars are shown plainly.  Make of that what you will.

Jack has been taught by the harshness of the galaxy that everyone is only out for themselves.  Killing someone increases one's chances of surviving, because that's one less person trying to kill her.

Jack has been taught by the people who took advantage of her that people only deal with other people because they want something.  That something usually involves money, her biotic abilities, and sex.

When Jack was a young teenager, after she escaped from Pragia, she was passed around by mercenary companies, probably for sex.  That has greatly affected her view of sex.  Jack was also likely raped on Purgatory and in other places, further inhibiting her ability to view sexuality as a positive thing that can have nurturing qualities. 

If Renegade Shepard takes Jack up on her offer of casual sex, he confirms for her what she thought was the case.  If he doesn't take her up, he shows her that it's not sex he wants, but something else, and that confuses her, and makes her wary.

Jack's relationship with Murtock taught her that people might genuinely love each other, with no ulterior motives.  She's found that love doesn't necessarily qualify as an ulterior motive.  Love is something that defies her conception of the way the galaxy works, and it is a very tender subject for her, especially after what happened to Murtock.  She states that Murtock just used her as well, but that may just be her way of rationalizing the situation to fit her perception of the way the galaxy works.  It might just be a defense mechanism that protects her from the pain of genuine loss.

Jack says that she gets a warm feeling when she fights.  She may love to fight and to kill and to see things tossed about like ragdolls because of her biotics.  This may be because of what Cerberus did to her, or because the ability to fight became vital to her in her attempts to stay alive.

Jack is, at first, resistant to believing the records she finds during her loyalty mission.  She believed that the riots began because of her.  She believed that she had it the worst out of all of the children at the facility, but that wasn't the case.  The other children were experimented upon, drugged, frozen, killed and dissected, all so that she, herself, wouldn't be killed by Cerberus' scientist's attempts to create the most powerful human biotic to ever live.  Eventually, Shepard can help her to, more or less, get over herself, and put her past behind her.

Jack has a tender side that Shepard gets to see during her final romance scene.  I don't know if sincere love is what she's wanted all along, but she seems very relieved to have finally found someone who has no ulterior motives, and who will accept her for who she is.  Jack is also the tender person who loves to cuddle, as we see at the end of the scene, but it is highly unlikely that she would show that side of herself to anyone other than Shepard, as it would mess with her ability to keep up appearances.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 02:39

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Jack and Miranda also have deep unspoken lust for each other. Jack also likes kitties.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 02:51

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ok adriano dont take this the wrong way but every time i see ur avatar i almost ****** my pants

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 03:56

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CamoBadger - As mentioned earlier, it'd be a good idea to check out the mass effect wikia. But if you really want to be sure, you could just play the game a few times.

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Posté 30 mai 2010 - 04:39

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Pacifien wrote...

Jack and Miranda also have deep unspoken lust for each other. Jack also likes kitties.


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