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Pacifien wrote...

What's Ashley's?


Ashley - 662 health and immunity (80% damage protection).

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True, I was surprised to see him greet Shepard as an old friend... those are things that newbies to the ME franchise can't understand (that's why default ME2 Shepard has killed Wrex imo)

That is a bit of a shame I think.  He won the best sidekick of the year according to Xbox magazine.  I would love to have him as a squadmate in ME3.  Considering his story of attempting to unite the Krogan, I fear it may not happen.:(

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God, that ME Wiki sucks.

Not all of it.   I've contributed some entries.  B)

I was going to ask if you could then change the entry about the suicide mission that confuses Legion with Garrus, but screw that. Someone can take Garrus and Grunt to the final battle and wonder why Mordin died when the wiki told them Legion was so great at defending.


Despite what the Wiki-haters believe, I'd need your evidence for your claims, first, if you did want me to change things.

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yorkj86 wrote...
Despite what the Wiki-haters believe, I'd need your evidence for your claims, first, if you did want me to change things.

Wiki-haters york?

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I like him as a character as well.  He's a good buddy, and seems to have a bit of kindness under that ferocious Krogan shell of his.


True, I was surprised to see him greet Shepard as an old friend... those are things that newbies to the ME franchise can't understand (that's why default ME2 Shepard has killed Wrex imo)


Here's something to enrage you - people who joined the ME series at ME2 will think that Wreav is a true bro, and since they don't know who Wrex was, they'll just take Wreav's word for it when he thanks Shepard for killing his brother.

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yorkj86 wrote...
Despite what the Wiki-haters believe, I'd need your evidence for your claims, first, if you did want me to change things.

Wiki-haters york?


B)

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yorkj86 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
God, that ME Wiki sucks.

Not all of it.   I've contributed some entries.  B)

I was going to ask if you could then change the entry about the suicide mission that confuses Legion with Garrus, but screw that. Someone can take Garrus and Grunt to the final battle and wonder why Mordin died when the wiki told them Legion was so great at defending.


Despite what the Wiki-haters believe, I'd need your evidence for your claims, first, if you did want me to change things.


I gave up on the wiki a long time ago... the only reason I use it now is to get the correct spelling of a word.

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I like that the only one really excited to see you was Wrex. One of the best parts of the game, tbh.

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I like that the only one really excited to see you was Wrex. One of the best parts of the game, tbh.

Mondo gets tears in her eyes.  She's a sucker for dramatics.^_^

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I cried like it was the end of The Dirty Dozen.

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Pacifien wrote...

The developers definitely need to improve the AI in regards to the shotguns. Whoever has a shotgun equipped prioritizes getting to shotgun distance with the enemy before self preservation.


Yeah the shotgun is not very viable for anyone that isn't Shepard <_<. Teammates with shotguns try to snipe with the thing and do very little damage, or they try to get close and end up getting their ass kicked. There needs to be some serious AI improvements to make the shotgun a viable weapon for squadmates. Or just give them a huge shield/barrier/health increase.

As for a new power for Jack besides the scorpion biotic pull + biotic face punch. I would like for her to have an AoE slam that actually does good damage. Or maybe instead of slamming them after lifting them, she could shoot them outwards, that would be pretty sweet. Or maybe the statis ability. The one where you can still hurt the enemy. Sure stasis doesn't really fit her, but I miss statis and that ability was so awesome.

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Epantiras wrote...

Uhm, looks like the drama is over. I can safely crawl out from my hiding place now.

If you could choose a new power for Jack in ME3, what would it be? (except her powerful cutscene PUNCH OF DOOM)


I would like Jack to get a damaged based biotic power... so warp.  I also want Wrext back.... and I want him to have Warp, Throw, Barrier and Stassis as well as Krogan Battlemaster as a passive.  I'm assuming they are going to let us fill up the power wheel this time.

I would assume that Wrex would get the health bonus that Grunt gets but rather than getting the crazy health regeneration that he would get the basice 40 points per second and he would get power damage and weapons damage bonuses (with the ability to evolve either power or weapons damage).  I would take Wrex and Jack with me everywhere.

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I think they would probably give Wrex one or two weaker biotic abilities, and then some soldier-like abilities. Barrier would be in there, and then maybe Concussive Shot, a cool Shotgun-specific ability equivalent to Carnage, and an Ammo power?

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yorkj86 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
I was going to ask if you could then change the entry about the suicide mission that confuses Legion with Garrus, but screw that. Someone can take Garrus and Grunt to the final battle and wonder why Mordin died when the wiki told them Legion was so great at defending.

Despite what the Wiki-haters believe, I'd need your evidence for your claims, first, if you did want me to change things.


OCD? Nah, I take medication for that, surely.

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Jack vs. Kaidan

Spawned from a few posts I read of people saying that Kaidan is almost as, is strong as, or is stronger than Jack in terms of biotics.

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Jack vs. Kaidan
Spawned from a few posts I read of people saying that Kaidan is almost as, is strong as, or is stronger than Jack in terms of biotics.


That's quite possibly the silliest thing  I've ever heard on these forums.   What don't people understand about "most powerful human biotic"?

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Collider wrote...

Jack vs. Kaidan
Spawned from a few posts I read of people saying that Kaidan is almost as, is strong as, or is stronger than Jack in terms of biotics.


That's quite possibly the silliest thing  I've ever heard on these forums.   What don't people understand about "most powerful human biotic"?

It's possibly that they simply like Kaidan better and project superior biotic skill onto him.

Here's another poll. Which human romance do you think was best?
Best Human Romance

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Collider wrote...
Jack vs. Kaidan
Spawned from a few posts I read of people saying that Kaidan is almost as, is strong as, or is stronger than Jack in terms of biotics.

Strength doesn't equal combat skill.

Jack's a stronger biotic, but she's undisciplined, a street fighter. Kaidan with the L2 implants is supposed to be stronger than biotics with the L3 implant, and he's trained as a soldier. A fight between the two would entirely depend on the situation in which their fight began.

So Kaidan could win in a fight against Jack, but does that make him as strong as her in terms of biotics? I don't think so. As I mentioned earlier in thread when comparing Jack and Samara, in short bursts, Jack's power becomes as strong as Samara's. She's been trained to ignore whatever limits biotics place on a human and go beyond it.

I've noticed a resistance to the idea that Jack is the only human biotic who could hold that Biotic Shield. Or perhaps I've noticed a resistance by Jack fans to the idea that other human biotics could hold the Biotic Shield. But I've a couple thoughts about that.

1) I already said this, but strength does not equal combat skill. Jack isn't going to immediately own a fellow human biotic simply because her power output is stronger.
2) It dilutes Jack's purpose, everything she's ever been put through, only to discover it was all for nothing and other human biotics can accomplish what she can without all that experimentation and torture.

Of course, (2) would just go to show that for all the nefarious methods Cerberus is willing to do, it all goes for naught in the end. But I think what makes Cerberus an interesting organization is that their harsh methods to get results sometimes. Many people might have died along the way and unethical would be putting it mildly, but they got the result one way or another.

Now, Kaidan's only BAaT training was severe and possibly crosses the line into undo torture. But with the mortality rate of Teltin? The surgical experimentation of Teltin? I take his time at BAaT as the boot camp from Hell, but I take Jack's time at Teltin as Hell made real.

When this discussion came up in the Kaidan thread, I mentioned that I could picture Kaidan holding the Biotic Shield long enough for everyone to get through, except for him. He has that training as a soldier and the mentality to put his own life ahead of others. He'd hold that shield even if it killed him.

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Pretty sure the question asked only about biotic strength, and nothing else. Jack would smear the walls with him.

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yorkj86 wrote...
Pretty sure the question asked only about biotic strength, and nothing else. Jack would smear the walls with him.

The actual poll asks about combat, though.

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Pacifien wrote...

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Pretty sure the question asked only about biotic strength, and nothing else. Jack would smear the walls with him.

The actual poll asks about combat, though.


Says "Jack vs. Kaiden" for me, no description.

EDIT:  Typo.

Modifié par yorkj86, 03 juillet 2010 - 11:56 .


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i dig the bald chicks.


"Shaved, it's a hairdo, case closed."

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Says combat underneath.

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yorkj86 wrote...
Says "Jack vs. Kaiden" for me, no description.

EDIT:  Typo.

For me, it says:

Combat

[ ]Jack
[ ]Kaidan

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