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[Goat_Shepard]

JohnnyDollar wrote...
It's not her concern, I don't believe.  If Jack was presently engaging in criminal activity while her and Samara were aboard the same ship, that might be different.  Even then though, she is under the 3rd oath to Shepard, which gives the mission proiority over everything else. 

I don't think Samara is going to sift through the Normandy crew personnel files, and decide who to erradicate for any past criminal activities prior to recruitment, after the mission is completed.

I know she wouldn't act on something Jack did in the past, but what would her opinion be? She's rather unforgiving, if they were stuck in the same room with no 3rd Oath, would they kill each other before they hugged? Cmon, it's the latter, you know it!

@Andaius
So you romanced Jack? NO MORE SPOILERS!

[Pacifien]

Goat_Shepard wrote...
I know she wouldn't act on something Jack did in the past, but what would her opinion be? She's rather unforgiving, if they were stuck in the same room with no 3rd Oath, would they kill each other before they hugged? Cmon, it's the latter, you know it!

I'm inclined to believe her opinion would be indifferent. Samara has lived her own mercenary past and, by her own admission, discovered a talent for combat at a young age. Who you were, all of your experiences, have only molded you to the person you are today. And it is who you are today that I think Samara uses to form an opinion of you.

Imagine an Earthborn or Ruthless Shepard -- questionable pasts as well, but not ones that I think Samara would concern herself unless Shepard continued with the same mentality.

[Gethforceone]

Mondo47 wrote...

 Jack worked very well, but Mordin looked terrible texture-wise.

Wait. there was one of those for mordin? Never knew about that.

[Pacifien]

Gethforceone wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...
 Jack worked very well, but Mordin looked terrible texture-wise.

Wait. there was one of those for mordin? Never knew about that.

Blur trailers, right? I think Jack's was done the best, followed by Grunt. I would have liked Thane's if they had gone with a more reptilian texture to his skin versus amphibious. Miranda looked off, more like a character from Final Fantasy than Mass Effect. I really didn't like Mordin's, both with texture and with delivery. I remember thinking that I wanted to like the salarian but his delivery was just so stilted. Which it is, but somehow it works better in the game than the trailer. I heard there was one for Shepard as well, but all I can find is some trailer with some dutch model standin where my Shepard should be.

[Goat_Shepard]

Pacifien wrote...
I'm inclined to believe her opinion would be indifferent. Samara has lived her own mercenary past and, by her own admission, discovered a talent for combat at a young age. Who you were, all of your experiences, have only molded you to the person you are today. And it is who you are today that I think Samara uses to form an opinion of you.

Imagine an Earthborn or Ruthless Shepard -- questionable pasts as well, but not ones that I think Samara would concern herself unless Shepard continued with the same mentality.

Good point. I just had a wicked thought; Renegade Shepard and Jack becoming space pirates and Samara chasing them around the galaxy. They'd find it kind of fun, watching Samara try to foil their plans and failing. Then eventually the two would team up to take her down

And I kinda liked Mordin's FftL trailer. He sounded just like Kirk. And Shepard's was extremely blurry on my eyes.

[Pacifien]

Goat_Shepard wrote...
Good point. I just had a wicked thought; Renegade Shepard and Jack becoming space pirates and Samara chasing them around the galaxy. They'd find it kind of fun, watching Samara try to foil their plans and failing. Then eventually the two would team up to take her down

A part of Samara is chomping at the bit to test herself against them. Jack and Shepard, though? Might be the extremely rare situation where two Justicars might be needed. Maybe five.

[NICKjnp]

Pacifien wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...
Good point. I just had a wicked thought; Renegade Shepard and Jack becoming space pirates and Samara chasing them around the galaxy. They'd find it kind of fun, watching Samara try to foil their plans and failing. Then eventually the two would team up to take her down

A part of Samara is chomping at the bit to test herself against them. Jack and Shepard, though? Might be the extremely rare situation where two Justicars might be needed. Maybe five.

I would say three... two for Shepard and one for Jack....

[Pacifien]

JohnnyDollar wrote...
I don't think that she would necessarily follow her to find out.  Unless she crossed paths with her, and caught her in the act, or she was directed to do so by the Justicar Order.

I think if the crew ever went their separate ways, there'd be a bit of a grace period they'd give each other. Like an unspoken agreement to let them go about their business without getting in each other's way. That's why I don't see Jack immediately looking for the next hit, Samara preparing to enact her version of Justice, Zaeed collecting in on a bounty (which I'm sure Jack still has), Tali or Legion preparing for war, or Jack looking to ruin Miranda's day.

I think simply surviving the suicide mission together gives everyone a free pass with whomever they still have grievances. And once they go their separate ways, they very likely will never cross paths again. The galaxy is too big, their lives too different.

I don't imagine the crew would immediately go their separate ways, though. The Reaper threat is very real to everyone now, and there's no geth war, no collector abductions to distract them from that. If anyone were to leave now, it would make more sense to me that they were leaving on a very specific mission that helps Shepard prepare for the Reapers.

[Goat_Shepard]

NICKjnp wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...
Good point. I just had a wicked thought; Renegade Shepard and Jack becoming space pirates and Samara chasing them around the galaxy. They'd find it kind of fun, watching Samara try to foil their plans and failing. Then eventually the two would team up to take her down

A part of Samara is chomping at the bit to test herself against them. Jack and Shepard, though? Might be the extremely rare situation where two Justicars might be needed. Maybe five.

I would say three... two for Shepard and one for Jack....

True, I forgot about Shepard, and all he did was grab Samara by the arm and seemingly zapped all her power in the Morinth confrontation. I never understood exactly how he did that lol

I also never considered Shepard being an Adept for a Jack romance. I remember an ME1 conversation in the elevators where Tali said to Alenko "I never seen a human biotic with your skill, Lieutenant. Except you, Shepard, of course". I wonder how an Adept Shepard v.s Jack spar would go.

Now I picture Shepard watching Jack and Samara fight 1v1 with his arms crossed, to see how powerful she is

[Pacifien]

I think Samara has simply lived so long, trained so long with her biotics to be caught off guard by much. However, I think an Adept Shepard would meet his match with Jack.

Modifié par Pacifien, 15 juillet 2010 - 03:58 .

[Pacifien]

yorkj86 wrote...
Justicars get missions.*snip*

I think missions just kinda fall into a Justicar's lap wherever she goes in Asari space. Being Asari space, a Justicar's will is upheld foremost above all other forms of punishment. Not so true outside of Asari space, but that wouldn't prevent a Justicar from upholding the Code. But as Officer Dara mentions, using the Code against a non-Asari is just looking for trouble between species. A trivial matter to a Justicar.

[Jackal904]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

I don't think Samara is going to sift through the Normandy crew personnel files, and decide who to erradicate for any past criminal activities prior to recruitment, after the mission is completed.

Well you don't have to do research to know what crimes Jack has committed. She doesn't exactly keep'm secret. But I don't think Samara will do anything about it, although it would be interesting as hell if she were to try and "bring Jack to justice."

I don't remember who it was, but someone said that Jack was serving her time when Shepard went to get her, so Samara would have no reason to try and arrest Jack. But then again Jack did technically escape from prison, all-be-it a corrupt prison.

Modifié par Jackal904, 15 juillet 2010 - 04:16 .

[NICKjnp]

As I've stated before... I always wondered how a fight between Samara and Wrex would turn out. Off-topic so don't reply... just ponder.

[Pacifien]

Wonder if there's a limitation to how much mass one can manipulate...

[Gethforceone]

Pacifien wrote...

Gethforceone wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...
 Jack worked very well, but Mordin looked terrible texture-wise.

Wait. there was one of those for mordin? Never knew about that.

Blur trailers, right? I think Jack's was done the best, followed by Grunt. I would have liked Thane's if they had gone with a more reptilian texture to his skin versus amphibious. Miranda looked off, more like a character from Final Fantasy than Mass Effect. I really didn't like Mordin's, both with texture and with delivery. I remember thinking that I wanted to like the salarian but his delivery was just so stilted. Which it is, but somehow it works better in the game than the trailer. I heard there was one for Shepard as well, but all I can find is some trailer with some dutch model standin where my Shepard should be.

Yeah Grunt's was awesome, but his voice sounds a bit deeper in that trailer.

[Goat_Shepard]

Pacifien wrote...

I think Samara has simply lived so long, trained so long with her biotics to be caught off guard by much. However, I think an Adept Shepard would meet his match with Jack.

I are surprised.

yorkj86 wrote...

I'd rather not get in to a pissing contest, but I don't think Shepard is supposed to be more powerful in a certain area where an individual is stated directly to be more skilled/powerful than he is, such as Jack.  I don't buy in to super protagonist powers for Shepard.

Stated directly? You mean "she's the most powerful human biotic"?

So there's no way I can be an Adept, now, I'll just be a weak version of Jack. My ego wouldn't be able to handle it then again none of the other classes make me feel manly either, now.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 15 juillet 2010 - 04:22 .

[Pacifien]

I remember saying a War Hero Infiltrator Shepard should be just as good holding off an invasion of slavers with a sniper rifle as Garrus was at holding off three merc bands, but then someone said Shepard will never be as awesome as Garrus. So an Infiltrator isn't as good as Garrus. An Engineer isn't as good as Tali. An Adept isn't as good as Jack. The ME2 Vanguard is pretty awesome, but Wrex is pretty much a krogan Vanguard, so all that awesomeness has been denied. I guess Shepard is only allowed to be a good Soldier.

[NICKjnp]

Pacifien wrote...

Wonder if there's a limitation to how much mass one can manipulate...

Well everyone in the Samara thread has already heard my theory on how Asari matriarchs are more powerful than other asari and the most powerful biotics in the galaxy.

[Jackal904]

yorkj86 wrote...

Samara has a sense of propriety.  She is compelled to save an innocent life, even if it means to let a criminal go. 

I don't know. Samara said she would have to kill many innocents if she were incarcerated for more than a day, so that she could continue her mission of killing Mornith.