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[Goat_Shepard]

Pacifien wrote...

I remember saying a War Hero Infiltrator Shepard should be just as good holding off an invasion of slavers with a sniper rifle as Garrus was at holding off three merc bands, but then someone said Shepard will never be as awesome as Garrus. So an Infiltrator isn't as good as Garrus. An Engineer isn't as good as Tali. An Adept isn't as good as Jack. The ME2 Vanguard is pretty awesome, but Wrex is pretty much a krogan Vanguard, so all that awesomeness has been denied. I guess Shepard is only allowed to be a good Soldier.

Indeed I do love the Vanguard, and even though Wrex isn't on the team, Jack is still a better biotic and she has a shotgun.

So it's between Sentinel and Soldier if you don't keep Ashley/Kaiden in mind. As a companion class to Jack, which is betta?

yorkj86 wrote...

Shepard is N7. He's no Duke Nukem, or Doom Guy (rip and tear).

As Shepard, not the protagonist, he/she is just a really tough human with the strongest will that gets the job done, headbutting krogan in the process (Grunt's renegade interrupt after tank-release was pretty badass)

So I imagine you don't think Shepard could hold a candle to most of the squaddies in combat if he/she wasn't the protagonist?

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Well Ashley is the super soldier Pacifien.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]

Tali sure does make Shepard out to be quite extraordinary though, whenever you first cross paths with her and her team on Freedom's Progress.  I am not sure off the top of my head, if there are any other instances similar to this in the game.

"Nobody spends that much money for one soldier"

"I've seen Shepard in action, Praza, trust me, it was money well spent".

And Ash calls you a god I think lol

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 15 juillet 2010 - 04:42 .

[Pacifien]

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Tali sure does make Shepard out to be quite extraordinary though, whenever you first cross paths with her and her team on Freedom's Progress.  I am not sure off the top of my head, if there are any other instances similar to this in the game.

Oh, I think the whole Lazarus Project trumps Tali. She might have thought it was worth it to spend 4 billion credits to revive Shepard, but the Illusive Man actually--oh. my. god. The Illusive Man has a huge schoolgirl crush on Shepard.

[Pacifien]

[quote]Goat_Shepard wrote...
So it's between Sentinel and Soldier if you don't keep Ashley/Kaiden in mind. As a companion class to Jack, which is betta?[/quote]
Since I spent a good half dozen missions playing support to Jack, I'd have to go with the Sentinel. Strip defenses, Jack pulls, shotgun. Repeat.[/quote]

[Jackal904]

yorkj86 wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Samara has a sense of propriety.  She is compelled to save an innocent life, even if it means to let a criminal go. 

I don't know. Samara said she would have to kill many innocents if she were incarcerated for more than a day, so that she could continue her mission of killing Mornith.

She states that she was compelled by the Code itself to give up her pursuit of Nihlus, when he threatened to kill a hostage in order to get her to back off so that he could escape.

Nihlus? When does Samara talk about Nihlus?

[Collider]

Jackal904 wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Samara has a sense of propriety.  She is compelled to save an innocent life, even if it means to let a criminal go. 

I don't know. Samara said she would have to kill many innocents if she were incarcerated for more than a day, so that she could continue her mission of killing Mornith.

She states that she was compelled by the Code itself to give up her pursuit of Nihlus, when he threatened to kill a hostage in order to get her to back off so that he could escape.

Nihlus? When does Samara talk about Nihlus?

In one of her conversations on the Normandy.

[Goat_Shepard]

[quote]Pacifien wrote...
Oh, I think the whole Lazarus Project trumps Tali. She might have thought it was worth it to spend 4 billion credits
to revive Shepard, but the Illusive Man actually--oh. my. god. The Illusive Man has a huge schoolgirl crush on Shepard.

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lol indeed. I think when you destroy the CB, his dreams of you two running Cerberus together were shattered, and soon after the fade-out, he began to sob.

[quote]Pacifien wrote...

[quote]Goat_Shepard wrote...
So it's between Sentinel and Soldier if you don't keep Ashley/Kaiden in mind. As a companion class to Jack, which is betta?[/quote]
Since I spent a good half dozen missions playing support to Jack, I'd have to go with the Sentinel. Strip defenses, Jack pulls, shotgun. Repeat.[/quote]
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So I can either zoom through the game with Soldier, stealing all of Jack's kills and barely needing any squadmates, or I can go through slow and steady as a Sentinel, allowing Jack to shine and possibly having a b!tch of a time beating the suicide mission.

It's actually a tougher decision than it sounds

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 15 juillet 2010 - 04:50 .

[Goat_Shepard]

yorkj86 wrote...
During one of the conversations with her.   She says that she began pursuing him when she witnessed him kill innocents for information, I believe.  She caught up with him, and they fought for days in a forest on some planet, then he figured out how to manipulate her by using the Code against her.   He took a hostage, and threatened to kill it, unless she let him go.  The Code compelled her to do as he threatened, in order to save the hostage.   He got away.

This is the only reason Nihlus is better than Garrus

Oh well, Garrus remembers to turn on his shields and therefor is still alive.

[Pacifien]

Goat_Shepard wrote...
So I can either zoom through the game with Soldier, stealing all of Jack's kills and barely needing any squadmates, or I can go through slow and steady as a Sentinel, allowing Jack to shine and possibly having a b!tch of a time beating the suicide mission.

It's actually a tougher decision than it sounds

I was thinking with all the various ammo types that a Soldier could strip defenses for Jack as well, but then it occurred to me the exchange would go sort of like "Okay, Jack, disruptor's got the shield down, now use your pu--oh wait, I killed him. We're good."

[Pacifien]

Goat_Shepard wrote...
This is the only reason Nihlus is better than Garrus

Oh well, Garrus remembers to turn on his shields and therefor is still alive.

"Sidonis!"
"Garrusssss."
"The situation's bad. I wasn't expecting mercs here."
"Don't worry. I've got it under control." *gunship*

[Pacifien]

JohnnyDollar wrote...
The humans are quite important in ME.  Genetic variation statements made by Mordin, and the Reapers interest in recovering Shepard's body for examples.  Shepard and the humans are arguably in Mary Sue territory.

Was there ever a space opera where humans did not save the mother****ing galaxy? Humans are awesome.

[Goat_Shepard]

Pacifien wrote...
I was thinking with all the various ammo types that a Soldier could strip defenses for Jack as well, but then it
occurred to me the exchange would go sort of like "Okay, Jack, disruptor's got the shield down, now use your pu--oh wait, I killed him. We're good."

I can't believe it, I was so gunna play Soldier for my Insanity run and just raep with the Widow, but now I'm gunna have to play fair.

FFFFUUUUU!!

Pacifien wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...
This is the only reason Nihlus is better than Garrus

Oh well, Garrus remembers to turn on his shields and therefor is still alive.

"Sidonis!"
"Garrusssss."
"The situation's bad. I wasn't expecting mercs here."
"Don't worry. I've got it under control." *gunship*

lol perfect inflection. "Nihlusssssssss". Seriousy though, I know it's in the plot, but they coulda added explosions indicating it was an epic fight. Then again, maybe Nihlus is just like Garrus as far as "I let my personal feelings get in the way of my better judgement".

Oh well, this feels appropriate to post;


Garrus: "I move much faster when I'm with you".

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 15 juillet 2010 - 05:03 .

[Pacifien]

yorkj86 wrote...
The genetic variation comment never should have been made. What a blunder.

Well, you know, alter it a percentage point, we're just a chimpanzee. That percentage point must be massive in the galactic scientific community.

[Pacifien]

yorkj86 wrote...
Consider all of the environmental factors that have produced genetic variation among humans, though, and it makes it seem as if the other species evolved in utopian environments.  As I've said before, it makes it seem as if other species are, by comparison, as genetically diverse as Virginia hill-folk.

Cheetahs have a genetic diversity of Virginia hill-folk. 's true. They went through, like, this population bottleneck and near extinction a few thousand years ago that left only a handful of them alive and they have never regained the genetic variation levels seen in cats like... cats. Or lions.

But nevermind that, the whole humans have special genes isn't high on my list of interesting plot developments.

[Pacifien]

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Chimpanzee 24 chromosomes.

Humans 23 chromosomes, with Chromosome #2 apparently a fusion of two ancestral chromosomes.

You probably know this, but I think it is interesting.

A duck has 39 chromosomes. And a fern has something like five hundred.

ETA: Okay, seriously, are all my most inane off-topic posts always going to hit the top of the page?

Modifié par Pacifien, 15 juillet 2010 - 05:29 .