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MirshanDR

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Pacifien wrote...
Just imagine this insane gamer sitting on the couch screaming "KILL ME ALREADY!" at the screen. That was me.

Ahah))) :D One hell of a show I bet))

- [Jack] What the **** is Shepard doing out there?! I thought we were supposed to kill the collectors, not run after them across the battlefield...
- [Miranda] Naaaah, relax.... He's gone suicidal again... Doesn't want to save me, stupid ****.... Just wait for a reload...

Pacifien wrote...
Who's going to catch Shepard is a different matter. The icons have nothing to do with it, it runs on a set pattern.
Miranda -> Zaeed -> Kasumi -> Tali -> Jacob -> Mordin -> Samara -> Grunt -> Legion -> Garrus -> Jack -> Thane

So to get Jack to pull Shepard up, either the second squadmate fighting the final boss needs to be dead or the squadmate needs to be Thane. Because Thane is a dick who never catches Shepard.

Thanx for this one)) Now she'll be my knight in shiny armor ))

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Granted, this is just all pretty rough stuff for now, but what you guys think?

This is an interesting look at what drives a person to do the sort of experiments we see at Teltin. Also like the mother-figure who shapes Jack's personality. Because I do wonder just where Jack's strong personality comes from, it seems like something she'd have developed before her escape because she needs that strength to survive the sh*t that comes after. So either she is just an incredible quick learner and picked up the sort of attitude she needed from the mercs who picked her up, so that attitude was already there.

The last fic I wrote with Jack at Teltin had just the barest hint of the attitude we were to eventually meet. Just the realization for the first time how strong she'd become and what she could do with that against her tormentors. But a foul-mouthed Jack seems like a no-go at Teltin, they'd have smacked that out of her if she ever tried that on them.

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Pacifien wrote...
Because I do wonder just where Jack's strong personality comes from, it seems like something she'd have developed before her escape because she needs that strength to survive the sh*t that comes after. So either she is just an incredible quick learner and picked up the sort of attitude she needed from the mercs who picked her up, so that attitude was already there.

She was tortured and conditioned to fight other children at Teltin. I'd say that would build some pretty strong character right there. She had the strength and will to survive, the vocabulary wasn't crucial for that and could have been picked up later.

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Pacifien wrote...
Then meeting some disillusioned soul from BAaT who provides her with her own biotic training outside of Teltin before she eventually meets up with Shepard.


Like Yoda? :lol:

Wait, where was I? Oh yeah, so I used to think Jack could have been as young as 12 when she escaped, but instead I'm thinking she was more like 15. Old enough to have been given the maximum amount of training from Teltin that she could then use to teach herself from that point on and still become an incredibly powerful biotic soldier. Because what the latest book showed me is that it wasn't enough to have the implants and potential for power, you have to train hard to match that potential. And if I think Jack hadn't been around any other human biotics after Teltin, her best years of biotic training were at Teltin. Everything she learned after Teltin were all the other skills she needed to know to survive.


It just bewilders me to imagine a 15 year old Jack escaping that hell. Looking at the facility, you can tell a long time has passed, but I figured it was in the 3-5 year range, not 10. I mean how much training can you accomplish between whatever age she started and 15? I don't really want to think about it lol

Scary thoughts, altogether. It seems pretty obvious Jack had biotics beforehand, likely a great deal of it. There has to be some reason why Jack was so important, and how she could handle so much power. Or was she only considered invaluable after the tests started? Maybe early exposure shows that she coped with it far better than anyone else, telling TIM that Jack's potential was higher as well, so instantly she became "the prize"?

Mondo47 wrote...

Actually, as a neat little addendum to what I was saying about squad members getting their order swapped, I'm
currently in Illium, with Miranda and Jack (off to do Miri's loyalty mission). Drinking the Mystery Drink in the bar just made Miranda and Jack swap places. Curiouser and curiouser...


lol I've always just downed the mystery drink and turned around and left, not even looking at Aethyta. This next playthrough will be quite grand, especially since I never took Jack on Miranda's loyalty mission either.

About the suicide mission fall-and-grab, it is indeed the 2nd squadmate, but I hear there are multiple factors that come into play. Basically, choose Jack as the 2nd squadmate, don't have them fall in combat, don't reload any saves, and you can fight through antique stores but only if they're classy.

Mondo47 wrote...
This would make Jack older than she appears.


Fade:
Appearances can be deceiving.

You are indeed right. I'm not factoring Miranda at all, but humans in general live longer and healthier in the future, no? So I would say "judging by the roundness of Jack's face, specifically her cheekbones and jawline, she looks 25", but in this modern universe, who knows. I do think based on her personality that I'm not far off. Miranda being as childish as she was with her snide remarks, she still got under Jack's skin. Not saying I wouldn't have done the same if she called me a mistake, but the use of the word "cheerleader" and her smiling "we're gunna be friends" always made me laugh. Made me think "yeah, she's angry, but there's still a little girl in there using highschool insults." Jack is a punk, so maybe I'm misreading. And personality traits doesn't imply how old you are, because Miranda is 35 and does NOT act her age, so it isn't that so much as their maturity, which age does factor.

Fogive the ignorance of this post.

That's got to go in my sig :innocent:

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 31 juillet 2010 - 06:18 .


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MirshanDR wrote...

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Where is that screenshot taken from? It's been posted here before but I keep forgetting to ask where it's from.

Ooh, I hadn't seen that screenshot before. I will always wonder about Jack's face model. I really don't think it's been any of the suggested actresses. Afterall, Samara's was an obscure model.


Idk which picture to comment on. YOWZA! Agree with Mirshan.

And I truly think they didn't model her after anyone, because they would have ended up with a Miranda-face. They looked at Jack from Pitch Black and said "let's go with this only with serious improvisation" and I'll bet they were dumbfounded by how well it turned out.

Having said that, Jack looks half-asian.

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I notice a lot of these narcissistic-esque memes from you, JD :P

Even though you're right :devil:

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I hope you guys and girls don't mind me posting this:
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I'm not sure if there was already something out there like this but I figured, why not? : )


Sexy. I like. I think I was more shocked than amazed at that particular part. Took another playthrough to develop these eyes :o

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Feels like everyone got on at once lol

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Oh, found it in my screen-storage, so I don't even remember if I took it myself or stumbled at it in the internet.


Hmm, it kinda looks like Thane or Samara's recruitment.

What about the last ss? All these smiles in screenshots that I've seen, and I don't remember one of them in-game except for when she's talking to Miranda, and when she's talking about Teltin on the stairs.

Like, is this a smile?

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I think she's smiling with her eyes in that one.

Points for the reference.

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tmk wrote...
She was tortured and conditioned to fight other children at Teltin. I'd say that would build some pretty strong character right there. She had the strength and will to survive, the vocabulary wasn't crucial for that and could have been picked up later.

I'm talking particularly about how she presents herself to others. A kid doesn't escape a facility like that immediately telling everyone to **** off.

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Pacifien wrote...

tmk wrote...
She was tortured and conditioned to fight other children at Teltin. I'd say that would build some pretty strong character right there. She had the strength and will to survive, the vocabulary wasn't crucial for that and could have been picked up later.

I'm talking particularly about how she presents herself to others. A kid doesn't escape a facility like that immediately telling everyone to **** off.


Wouldn't you? I certainly wouldn't act like Mr. Rodgers. I'd think the mail man and next door neighbor were going to try to use me somehow. They may be nice, they might be helpful, but I aint taking that chance, so I'd promptly tell 'em to "f*ck off".

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

Having said that, Jack looks half-asian.

Sing me in, I also thought that several times.

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What about the last ss?

Don't know if I got you right. If you're asking about this one

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then it's during the renegade sex scene.

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Goat_Shepard wrote...
I think she's smiling with her eyes in that one.

Points for the reference.

Is that the part where she's talking about how parades are boring? Or giving people what they deserve? I think she's smiling with her voice there too.

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tmk wrote...
I'm talking particularly about how she presents herself to others. A kid doesn't escape a facility like that immediately telling everyone to **** off.

Well, for one thing, being "used and sold" by the people who found here right after that would probably set her on the right track towards that attitude. And I don't think it's really that hard to pick up tbh.

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Goat_Shepard wrote...
Wouldn't you? I certainly wouldn't act like Mr. Rodgers. I'd think the mail man and next door neighbor were going to try to use me somehow. They may be nice, they might be helpful, but I aint taking that chance, so I'd promptly tell 'em to "f*ck off".

It's because I don't think she could have gotten away with that sort of talk while at Teltin. You don't immediately start cursing like a sailor just because you can. My own voice tends to alter depending on who I'm around. Talk sh*t, I talk sh*t. Talk like an intellectual, I talk like an intellectual.

This is what makes axl99's idea of Jack's origin and the doctor who oversees the project make a bit of sense that Jack would pick up her talking style immediately upon escaping the facility. But that's her idea of Jack's origins, not mine. So I have to find a different approach.

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Where is Mondo? I want one of her fics.

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

Having said that, Jack looks half-asian.


I can see that.  I can also see white/light arab, or white/hispanic, too.  Her "Fight for the Lost"  trailer throws my perception, though.

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She looks full caucasian to me. Kaidan and Ashley are the only characters in-game that I've had problems figuring out what race they are. In ME2 they didn't do a good job of making there be a more mixed races of people.

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MirshanDR wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Having said that, Jack looks half-asian.

Sing me in, I also thought that several times.


Especially in her FftL trailer.

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Don't know if I got you right. If you're asking about this one
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then it's during the renegade sex scene.


Well...that explains it.

And along with the 2nd one, I've seen plenty posted that I just fail to remember, like a smile on Pragia. You know, it's the little things in life that these forum junkies make clear.

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It's because I don't think she could have gotten away with that sort of talk while at Teltin. You don't immediately start cursing like a sailor just because you can. My own voice tends to alter depending on who I'm around. Talk sh*t, I talk sh*t. Talk like an intellectual, I talk like an intellectual.

This is what makes axl99's idea of Jack's origin and the doctor who oversees the project make a bit of sense that Jack would pick up her talking style immediately upon escaping the facility. But that's her idea of Jack's origins, not mine. So I have to find a different approach.


Oh, right, you mean her personality at Teltin.

Right, well, she could have went through several phases if she escaped at such a young age. During her time at the facility, all I can only imagine darkness, silence, and anger. All alone so her quiet rage can run more freely in between the chaos of those brawling sessions. Why do or say anything, when every time at the push of a button you're forced to the ground? Being young and rebellious, that was an initial stage, but those last 5 years were the reality of it all, when she's rethinking her whole existence.

How did the events actually go? Bunch of the subjects started a riot and she was lost in the confusion? Maybe they finally thought they had her will broken, and were a bit surprised to say the least when the lion wasn't tame.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 31 juillet 2010 - 07:19 .


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Just think Jack is like all humans are supposed to be, a mixture of everything. Reminds me of a program I was watching about human migration, where the central point for the true diaspora was Kazakhstan. Showed a Kazakh and really the guy could have been pegged from being anywhere.

ETA: She only appears Asian in very certain instances, but I buy it. Heh, I knew someone who was a mixture of Chinese/Caucasion/Native American/Who knows. And several generations removed from the various ethnicities, it was maybe her grandfather who was Chinese. Anyway, her child has the brightest red hair and palest white skin.

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Pacifien wrote...

Just think Jack is like all humans are supposed to be, a mixture of everything. Reminds me of a program I was watching about human migration, where the central point for the true diaspora was Kazakhstan. Showed a Kazakh and really the guy could have been pegged from being anywhere.


And now I'm reminded of that "goo-back" South Park episode :lol:

Definitely contrast in the FttL trailer Jack and ME2 Jack. She's still more tanned, and I swear them eyes are exotic, not your average "big an beautiful" like Samara.

@Andy
Now you need to do it again only without subtitles.
You're blockin my view B)

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LOL where's that from?

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tmk wrote...

LOL where's that from?


No idea, but it's very funny for Samara to be making a face like that, isn't it?  :o

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tmk wrote...

LOL where's that from?


No idea, but it's very funny for Samara to be making a face like that, isn't it?  :o


Considering she's supposed to be all set in her ways and monotonous, yes, it is rather funny :lol:

But if it's a snarl contest, I don't think anyone's got a chance. This image is actually named for it :lol:

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Ok no more snarls!

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Jack <_<

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Pacifien wrote...

Just think Jack is like all humans are supposed to be, a mixture of everything.


“Human; viable possibility, impressive genetic malleability.”

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Epantiras wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Just think Jack is like all humans are supposed to be, a mixture of everything.


“Human; viable possibility, impressive genetic malleability.”

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