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[Goat_Shepard]

Mondo47 wrote...

Well she's refered to as 'Jack' in one of the Teltin recordings (I think... I only went through the damn mission a few hours ago, but I swear my memory is getting faulty in my old age )... so the name goes back a way. If she was kept in isolation most of the time, to me at least that hints that either it's something she adopted from something she read (a book, perhaps, or maybe something even more interesting like another person at Teltin's name, or a manufacturer's mark on an object... imagine turning over Jack's old desk to find the worn maker's mark only has the letters J, A C and K legible on it) or someone gave it to her for whatever reason.

So who spoke the name first? I'd think it would be a visual connection rather than a symbolic one, only because I imagine Jack had no formal education? Teltin would make sure she isn't stupid, but idk if she'd get the chance to read. My memory is worse than yours, though, and I'm fairly young

I tend to think it's not her real name, though... it would be interesting if it was; if she'd always maintained it was her name, because in some dim, pre-Teltin childhood memory she can no longer dredge up, she knows subconciously that is who she really is.

Ouch. Why you gotta tug at mah heart strings? So maybe, in her subconscious, she heard "Jack" as a shortened "Jacqueline"...said to her from a caretaker. Ooor...

Pacifien wrote...
While thinking through her time at Teltin, I had thought that she actually developed some kind of an understanding
with one of the guards. Like they weren't friends and he wasn't kind to her, but he was the only one who told her she needed to keep standing, keep fighting. And that his name was Jack.

Man, that could be an awesome FF series. I'm convinced all this info needs to be in either Leliana's Song-esque DLC or in ME3...or both

Edit: Is Tali sad in that shot, or is she looking at her toes? I needed a sad face, not shoegazing!

Pretty picky about a faceless quarian

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 01 août 2010 - 03:03 .

[Goat_Shepard]

Sundown Native wrote...
But it depends on when she picked the name up. Before the escape, and I'd say you guys are more on it than I am. After it, I'd probably say that it caught on for reasons other than it just catching on. Right now, I've got the belief that she picked the name because most people wouldn't expect a woman to be named Jack.

Unless it was short for Jackie, or Jacquelynn.

That girl on Pitch Black chose the name Jack for that exact reason, but it was because they would discriminate her. Maybe the whole point was so Bioware could screw with us, but then why release the gd trailer? Idiots!

[axl99]

Yeah. I like to think the scientists have heard Jack referring to herself by that name for so long they let their tongues slip every once in a while.

[stormrain]

You people are so silly. Of course her real name isn't Jack, it's actually [CITIZEN ID NOT FOUND].

Modifié par Captain Uccisore, 01 août 2010 - 04:24 .

[Pacifien]

Unbelievable! You [Subject Zero Name Here] must be the pride of [Subject Home Colony Here]!

[adriano_c]

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Right!

[adriano_c]

Pacifien wrote...

That is exactly what I've told people about my ethnicity. Surprising how underhanded the corporate world tries to get about filling out that blank spot on their demographic surveys. Guess the thought that I could tick off a much needed box in their diversity claims is oh so tempting.

Ambiguous appearance, eh?

[Pacifien]

adriano_c wrote...
Ambiguous appearance, eh?

None of your f*cking business!

That is a joke.

Modifié par Pacifien, 01 août 2010 - 04:55 .

[adriano_c]

The belligerent attitude only works for Jack, I think!

-edit. Yeah, I got it............................................................

Modifié par adriano_c, 01 août 2010 - 04:56 .

[Matroska]

My girlfriend wants a girl called James, so I guess this kind of wrong-gender-name stuff isn't really that unusual. I just wish Jack didn't dress like a ****; she calls Miranda a "cheerleader" but Miranda dresses like a nun compared to Jack's "how does i used belt" look. If/when she returns in ME3, it'd be nice to see her dressing like her character implies she would dress, rather than like a Terminator that was sent back in time to a belt shop and had to rapidly dress herself before anyone showed up.

[adriano_c]

One flaunts her sexuality, the other crashes through social conventions. Distinctions!

[Pacifien]

Honestly, I think ****s probably get more clients dressing like Miranda than they would dressing like Jack...

ETA: Do like Jack's alternate appearance pack outfit. Sans visor. Actually, sometimes the visor works, but like the helmet, I wish there was a toggle feature for them. Had to reload Pragia when I realized she had the visor on. No hiding those eyes there.

Modifié par Pacifien, 01 août 2010 - 05:02 .

[adriano_c]

The visor looks good in combat and walking around, less so during cutscenes.

[Pacifien]

Just had this image of Shepard stopping Jack midsentence. "I'm sorry, can you take off your visor and repeat that? I want to feel your eyes staring into my very soul."

[stormrain]

^Cue awkward pause, then a biotic punch to the gut.



Neither default outfit leave much to the imagination in my eyes. But I like Jack's more because it's interesting and the tattoo's act much like normal clothing; I forget that she's half naked most of the time.

Modifié par Captain Uccisore, 01 août 2010 - 05:12 .

[Pacifien]

Captain Uccisore wrote...
Neither default outfit leave much to the imagination in my eyes. But I like Jack's more because it's interesting and the tattoo's act much like normal clothing; I forget that she's half naked most of the time.

Yeah, I would have gone with having no belt top because the tattoos are the outfit in and of themselves. But I wonder if it really would be difficult for most people to see it that way and you just have tons of screencaps from guys going "Look! ******!"

The belt top felt like an executive telling the developers no uncovered boobs allowed, so they went with the most in-your-face lame attempt to cover them as possible.

[adriano_c]

I can't recall, but weren't the demons (female ones) in Dragon Age basically nude from the waist up?

[Pacifien]

adriano_c wrote...
I can't recall, but weren't the demons (female ones) in Dragon Age basically nude from the waist up?

No, they had the even nicer tassles to cover up. <_<

ETA: Come to think of it, even better with the desire demons. Bigger breasts. Tassles only. Seductive posing and wandering of hands. <_<

Modifié par Pacifien, 01 août 2010 - 05:30 .

[adriano_c]

Yeah, had to look it up on google. 'Tassels' turned up some interesting results, to say the least. Jack in a burlesque outfit's a funny image.



They should have gone with the sports bra from those earlier concept designs (someone posted pictures of the 3d model a while ago). Beats what she has now.

[Pacifien]

adriano_c wrote...
They should have gone with the sports bra from those earlier concept designs (someone posted pictures of the 3d model a while ago). Beats what she has now.

Yeah, I was thinking about that earlier while browsing through some of axl99's artwork again. Looks like that's what they went with for the Blur trailer as well. Wondering what sort of new style they'll give her in ME3.

[Matroska]

Yeah, the problem with Jack's clothing can't be assigned conveniently away to "sexuality" or anything. Quite simply, she raises her arms or lowers her shoulders (or any other similar body movement) and that little belt slips off somewhere irrelevant and she finds herself the centre of her very own "wardrobe malfunction". You have to picture this; here's a woman who is fiercely independent and incredibly aggressive and yet she spends every waking hour trying to balance a belt over her f**king nipples. It's a classic case of cheesecake, fan-servicey character design taking over from actually designing from the character's point of view, and thus damaging the character's believability in the process. Miranda is sassy, sexy and rides around in space but it doesn't mean she has to dress like Barbarella - the only thing that would designate that is the character designer feeling horny and/or retro.