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...let's be honest for a minute here, juvenile males still harking back to their days playing soldier in the backyard... *cough* GearsOfWar *cough*

I can only imagine how much better ME1&2 would have been if they had been developed and targetted to an older demographic.  Let's say...~30yr old males for the sake of argument.  Even if it was still targetted to males, and one happens to be a female gamer, that prospect still sounds a whole lot better all around, I think, for both.  At least for gamers that are no longer teenagers, anyway.  Although that isn't to say that females don't like playing games such as GearsOfWar, because they most certainly do.

Edit:  With that said, I doubt it will happen any time soon, because I don't think that's where the money is.

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Sundown Native wrote...

I know I'm a long way from my conversation about Shepard and Jack's backgrounds being intertwined, but I JUST remembered another example.

Balak.

You'd know him from ME1's Bring Down The Sky. He was the leader of the extremist group, that was about to crash an asteroid into Terra Nova. What if the batarian makes an attack on Shepard, personally? Going after his people. His mother, Earth, Mindoir. There's a lot of things that could trigger that. Plus, Shepard did say that he was going find the guy, eventually. And finish the job. That is, of course, if Shepard choose to save the hostages on Asteroid X57.

Just getting that one in.


I'm not sure I follow. How is Jack's background connected to Balak?

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...
...let's be honest for a minute here, juvenile males still harking back to their days playing soldier in the backyard... *cough* GearsOfWar *cough*

I can only imagine how much better ME1&2 would have been if they had been developed and targetted to an older demographic.  Let's say...~30yr old males for the sake of argument.  Even if it was still targetted to males, and one happens to be a female gamer, that prospect still sounds a whole lot better all around, I think, for both.  At least for gamers that are no longer teenagers, anyway.  Although that isn't to say that females don't like playing games such as GearsOfWar, because they most certainly do.

Edit:  With that said, I doubt it will happen any time soon, because I don't think that's where the money is.


I think ME1 was targeted to an older demographic... the problem was that they turned around and target ME2 to a younger demographic... and alienated the older demographic that played ME1.

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Wait, wait, wait.  People have trouble looking at Jack's eyes?


That ink....flowing around her skin like fire and smoke, begging the short-attentives to follow the patterns, wondering where and why each one was started, and what's at the end of them. Her meticulously shaved head, revealing her intricate head and neck tattoos. Golden translator earpiece glinting on one side but not the other. The way her lips move as she talks in that voice. Courtenay Taylor's voice making it difficult to do the simplest multitasking.

She's incredibly distracting, and thus a hazard. Especially in battle.


Well said :happy:  Those are all fair points, but of all of Jack's features, her eyes are the most distracting to me.  Samara, too, has those really distracting eyes.

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Among all of Jack's tattoos, which ones do you guys like?

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that one around her head.

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Well said :happy:  Those are all fair points, but of all of Jack's features, her eyes are the least distracting to me.  I drool over that ass.:bandit:

:lol:  You're kiddin right?  I thought I knew you better than that.

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I'm not that sure why, but I love the circles in her palms. Her half-halo is also distinctive, but if I have to pick one... her collar of skeletal hands.

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Sundown Native wrote...

I know I'm a long way from my conversation about Shepard and Jack's backgrounds being intertwined, but I JUST remembered another example.

Balak.

You'd know him from ME1's Bring Down The Sky. He was the leader of the extremist group, that was about to crash an asteroid into Terra Nova. What if the batarian makes an attack on Shepard, personally? Going after his people. His mother, Earth, Mindoir. There's a lot of things that could trigger that. Plus, Shepard did say that he was going find the guy, eventually. And finish the job. That is, of course, if Shepard choose to save the hostages on Asteroid X57.

Just getting that one in.


I'm not sure I follow. How is Jack's background connected to Balak?



Initially, it isn't. This comes from Shepard's side of the relationship.

This is how I see it:

Shepard becomes a spectre, and saves the galaxy once. Somewhere during that, he finds time to save Terra Nova, and the hostages there, in the process. Say Balak wants to attempt to send another message -- try to attack another planet inhabited by humans. While he's brainstorming that, either Shepard gets ressurected, Omega-4 Relay gets used..Something that tells him that the former spectre isn't dead. Then it clicks together. What better way to strike a blow to humanity then to try to eliminate Shepard?

But he doesn't go after him; he starts planning. He starts finding out more about Shepard than say, what happened at the Blitz, or Torfan. He finds out about his parents (Spacer). He finds out about Talitha, or decides to completely destroy Mindoir (Colonist), Or, he decides to go all out, and launch an attack that'd begin a war between humans and batarians, and head straight for Earth (Earthborn).

Let's say that Shepard and Balak both survive the first encounter. And let's say that, out of everyone in his squad, he brings (insert character name here) and Jack. Now Balak has to grab more information. Somewhere along that line, he finds out about him and Jack. Now, Balak has -- if he didn't have it already -- the advantage over Shepard. He could use his pre-service history AND his LI against him, forcing him to make a choice almost similar to the one he had to make, on Asteroid X57. Everything, or himself. They die, or he dies. I'm inclined to believe that the second time around? Shepard'd expect something like that, and would come prepared. It's all up to the author, though, in terms of FF.

I'm probably reading into it too much. But if it ever happened, I'd like to see how it ends.

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NICKjnp wrote...

that one around her head.


That's the one I least like, but I don't dislike it. I really like the star on her stomach, and the one that looks like red vines all along her right side.

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Any of them that are over bone... tattoos over bone hurt like a **** and you have to be tough (or into pain) in order to sit there and get them.

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I can't really choose one, so I'm calling it off the top of my head.



"Death" tats.

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Sundown Native wrote...

He could use his pre-service history AND his LI against him,


I would like to see something like that in ME3, whether or not it involves Balak. Someone that tries to target those you care about first. Maybe a situation where you're LI is taken hostage (although I doubt Jack could easily be taken hostage unless rendered unconscience), and you have to risk others dieing to save him/her. Or you just have to try and rescue them (that wouldn't be as interesting, but it would have a happier ending). I wouldn't be surprised if there ends up being a scenario in ME3 where you have to choose between saving your LI or something/someone else. A scenario like that would be especially interesting with Jack, considering the whole Murtock thing.

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NICKjnp wrote...

Any of them that are over bone... tattoos over bone hurt like a **** and you have to be tough (or into pain) in order to sit there and get them.


Well, Jack should have a high threshold for pain after everything she's been through at Teltin. But maybe getting tattoos are not as painful in the future?

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Wait, wait, wait.  People have trouble looking at Jack's eyes?


That ink....flowing around her skin like fire and smoke, begging the short-attentives to follow the patterns, wondering where and why each one was started, and what's at the end of them. Her meticulously shaved head, revealing her intricate head and neck tattoos. Golden translator earpiece glinting on one side but not the other. The way her lips move as she talks in that voice. Courtenay Taylor's voice making it difficult to do the simplest multitasking.

She's incredibly distracting, and thus a hazard. Especially in battle.



Oh good lord, Goat.  After that, I'm seriously (well maybe half-seriously) contemplating just packing it in and calling it a day writing-wise.  :P

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NICKjnp wrote...
I think ME1 was targeted to an older demographic... the problem was that they turned around and target ME2 to
a younger demographic... and alienated the older demographic that played ME1.


Always have to target to the younger demographic, the demographic who's parents buy them a $60 game each month. Truth is, both games are wildly intelligent and entertaining enough to appeal to a much wider age range than most games.

You could say ME2 was more immature than ME1, but idk about "alienating" a demographic that rarely get targetted anyway.

yorkj86 wrote...
Well said :happy:  Those are all fair points, but of all of Jack's features, her eyes are the most distracting to me.  Samara, too, has those really distracting eyes.

Well, naturally. Jack is the only one with life in her eyes (and DEATH on her knuckles muahahaha! :devil:) but I purposefully didn't describe them to show the magnitude of everything else that's awesome. And I really do lose myself in those tattoos.

Shepard you fool, you're supposed to look in the woman's eyes when she's talking!

But the eye!!

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Among all of Jack's tattoos, which ones do you guys like?


Zaeed's are pretty cool, but they strike me as just "badass" whereas I can't tell which ones Jack got only because she liked the look, know what I mean? Maybe the star is just for show, but who knows? Obviously her right arm intrigues me the most.

I think Robert Langdon would have an orgasm just looking at her.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 09 août 2010 - 01:08 .


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yorkj86 wrote...
Well said :happy:  Those are all fair points, but of all of Jack's features, her eyes are the least distracting to me.  I drool over that ass.:bandit:

:lol:  You're kiddin right? I drool over that ass as well but her eyes are easily 2nd best.


Holy shit, how immature.

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Sundown Native wrote...

I can't really choose one, so I'm calling it off the top of my head.

I can't really choose one either.

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axl99 wrote...

Among all of Jack's tattoos, which ones do you guys like?


Gotta go with the Omega letter.

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Which do you guys think is more sensual, her eyes or lips?

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.....Not gonna answer that.



.....Not gonna answer that.

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There's something about describing a video game character as "sensual" that seems off...

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adriano_c wrote...

There's something about describing a video game character as "sensual" that seems off...

Gratification of the senses. Visual, in this case, of a digital creation.  She is an artist's creation.  A piece of art.

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Among all of Jack's tattoos, which ones do you guys like?


The star-shaped tattoo on her abdomen.  My second favorite is the circular design above her collarbone, that looks like it's designed with human bones.

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adriano_c wrote...

axl99 wrote...

Among all of Jack's tattoos, which ones do you guys like?


Gotta go with the Omega letter.


Yeah I forget to mention that one. That's also one of my favorites. Nothing's more badass than having a giant symbol on your back that means, "The end".

Modifié par Jackal904, 09 août 2010 - 01:44 .