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tommyt_1994

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Epantiras wrote...

tommyt_1994 wrote...

I created a new Jack sig, anyone like it? It's only the second sig I've ever created, but it's definetly better than the first one ^_^. I just took that one Jack sig that most people here have, but shook it up a bit. it's kinda weird, and the inserted screenie is kindarandom, but I think i like it.


I like it ^_^

Thanks ^_^. It took me a while to get used to the sig creator site, but I think I got a hold of it. I think I'mgonna go make another one too, just for fun. It'll be Jack related of course

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I bring more ^_^

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Regarding this sig, I found the artwork used in it from the Jack group here on the forums, considering the artist posted it on the group, I figured he/she wouldn't mind if people use it, but I don't want to upset him/her by using it. I also couldn't find who the artist was so I can't give them credit for the artwork. If anyone thinks I should take this down, I will. I don't wanna take credit for artwork that isn't mine.



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In case anyone feels like having a few laughs ((Again)), here's the second installment of...Well, you know.

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Edit: And good sigs, Tommy. I'm thinking the second one's my favorite.

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Sundown Native wrote...

In case anyone feels like having a few laughs ((Again)), here's the second installment of...Well, you know.

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Edit: And good sigs, Tommy. I'm thinking the second one's my favorite.

Thanks ^_^. I think it's my favorite as well, I knewI had to use the pic whenI saw it, I was suprised a great pic like that appeared through google images.

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I just noticed that there isn't much fanfic of  biotics-capable Shepard and Jack being in a relationship.  Does it detract from how biotics are an important part of Jack's character?

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JakeMacDon wrote...

You know what intrigued Shepard about Jack initially?



THAT SHE DESTROYED PURGATORY DAMN-NEAR BY HERSELF!

*Cough*

Okay, maybe it's just me that finds that hot.    :whistle:


<raises hand> No, no.  Not at all.  ^_^


yorkj86 wrote...

I just noticed that there isn't much
fanfic of  biotics-capable Shepard and Jack being in a relationship. 
Does it detract from how biotics are an important part of Jack's
character?


I'm not quite sure what you mean by this, york.  Are you saying that a biotic Shep somehow dilutes or overshadows Jack (even if only slightly) because it makes her less unique in the relationship?  If so, my take on it is that her biotics are only part of what makes Jack who and what she is, and she has more than enough in the way of other notable facets/aspects that it's pretty much a non-issue.  Long story short: Jack's biotics are part of who she is, but they don't define her (imo anyway).


@Sundown - I could NOT make it through the entirety of both videos.  I can't afford to be chuckling maniacally all day.  ;)

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Just trying to find an explanation for why most people don't write Shepard as biotics-capable in their fanfic. Maybe they're just trying to keep Shepard as class-neutral as possible. Also, I'm just trying to keep the thread bumped.

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yorkj86 wrote...

Just trying to find an explanation for why most people don't write Shepard as biotics-capable in their fanfic. Maybe they're just trying to keep Shepard as class-neutral as possible. Also, I'm just trying to keep the thread bumped.



Frankly, I'd say that they're missing out on story potential if they keep their Sheps class-neutral.  A Shepard's "specialty" changes the way he sees/reacts to things; problem solving tends to follow different paths based on available tools.  And at their most basic, that's all class abilities really are.  Pretty damn obvious, I know, but it bears mentioning. 

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Speaking of Biotic's I was thinking about these Human Biotics from the ME Series and was wondering everyone's opinion on them and their Biotic potental how you would rank them.

Human Biotics
1.Jack
2.Gillian Grayson
3.Shepard
4.Miranda Lawson
5.Kaidan Alenko
6.Hendel Mitra
7.Jacob Taylor

Modifié par BobZilla 2k10, 19 août 2010 - 07:09 .


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BobZilla 2k10 wrote...

Speaking of Biotic's I was thinking about these Human Biotics from the ME Series and was wondering everyone's opinion on them and their Biotic potental how you would rank them.

Human Biotics
1.Jack
2.Gillian Grayson
3.Shepard
4.Miranda Lawson
5.Kaidan Alenko
6.Hendel Mitra
7.Jacob Taylor


That's how I would rank them, too.

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BobZilla 2k10 wrote...

Speaking of Biotic's I was thinking about these Human Biotics from the ME Series and was wondering everyone's opinion on them and their Biotic potental how you would rank them.

Human Biotics
1.Jack
2.Gillian Grayson
3.Shepard
4.Miranda Lawson
5.Kaidan Alenko
6.Hendel Mitra
7.Jacob Taylor


Not having read any of the novelizations, I can't speak to characters like Grayson and Mitra, but I'd personally rank Kaidan higher than Miranda based on the strength of Chakwas' comment in ME1 and the fact that Miranda is more an "artificial" biotic.  Yes I know that technically all human biotics are artificial - having had to be exposed to eezo instead of it being a natural outgrowth of racial genetics.  But in Miranda's case, I can't see her father taking the steps that led to Jack, Grayson, Shepard, or Alenko.  He wanted someone to carry on his dynasty, and doing something that is more likely to result in physical or mental problems was probably a big no-no.  My take (and I could be wrong) is that he added in biotics so Miranda would have the "complete package" so to speak, but not in any way that would jeopardize long-term viability.  I'd actually be tempted to rank Jacob higher than or equal to Miranda in terms of overall ability for the same reason.

And no, I'm not a Miranda-hater.  I just feel that she's overrated because of all the "genetically engineered to be perfect" hype.  As a unfied whole she's pretty much the Swiss Army knife of the bunch - can do a lot of things, but taking each aspect in isolation, will never be quite as exceptional as someone more specialized.  And I'll say it again: she needed to be perfect, of which physical and mental stability is an important part.  All of the most powerful/notable human biotics have problems which would work against her father's dynastic aspirations.  Note that you can't really count Shepard in with this bunch.  Not only is he the hero, he's also mostly a blank slate - he's as perfect or as flawed as the individual player wants him to be.

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BobZilla 2k10 wrote...

Speaking of Biotic's I was thinking about these Human Biotics from the ME Series and was wondering everyone's opinion on them and their Biotic potental how you would rank them.

Human Biotics
1.Jack
2.Gillian Grayson
3.Shepard
4.Miranda Lawson
5.Kaidan Alenko
6.Hendel Mitra
7.Jacob Taylor


1.Jack
Powerful! She relies more in raw power than discipline. I wonder what she could do with some "real training".

2.Gillian Grayson
Potentially stronger than Jack, I bet Cerberus took the experiments on the next level with her. Also, she seems to have an "always increasing" biotic power, just like Jack (if I remember correctly).

3.Shepard

Wrex.

Lol :D
He/she's a leader, that's their true strength. As biotic power, maybe the Cerberus implats did improve something, but not much.

4.Miranda Lawson
"Any biotic could hold a biotic barrier. In theory."
That says it all

5.Kaidan Alenko
Virmired :-P but since ME2 sentinels rock, he could be a good squadmate in ME3. Still, not more powerful than Shep him/herself

6.Hendel Mitra

Do want! Even if he may not be the strongest biotic around (a simple display such as lift or pull seem to drain him), this guy is made of awesome.

7.Jacob Taylor
Gravity's a mean mother. Your average biotic squadmate.

Power ranking (from hero to zero):

Jack/Gillian
Adept Shepard
Kaidan/Vanguard or Sentinel Shepard
Jacob/Miranda
Hendel <3

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Epantiras wrote...
4.Miranda Lawson
"Any biotic could hold a biotic barrier. In theory."
That says it all



And this is why I have an issue with ranking Miranda so high.  I'd change my tune if the game showed her as successfully keeping the barrier up during the suicide mission, but she doesn't, miraculous resurrection notwithstanding.  Btw, I have never personally witnessed this egregious use of plot armor, since I always chose Jack or Samara for the job.

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I'd rank Jack over Gillian because Jack does not have the learning difficulty Gillian has. Also, Jack has far more experience, both practical and combat, with her biotics. Lastly, there's no chance that I would take Gillian in to a combat situation.

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yorkj86 wrote...
 Lastly, there's no chance that I would take Gillian in to a combat situation.


True ;-) she could just create a singularity that would end up sucking in both baddies and your team!

But give her time... i wonder how powerful she'll be once she gets as old as Jack (wich is somewhere between 1 month and 10,000 years :P)

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yorkj86 wrote...

I'd rank Jack over Gillian because Jack does not have the learning difficulty Gillian has. Also, Jack has far more experience, both practical and combat, with her biotics. Lastly, there's no chance that I would take Gillian in to a combat situation.


Might be nice if, in the interim between ME2 and ME3, someone taught Jack control to go with her power (as several people like Jake have mentioned previously).  We might actually get her at her cutscene power levels.  :P  But then again, probably not, since Shep is the GD hero of the piece....  And no, I never did like the fact that the game nerfs the damage output of your squaddies to the point where Zaeed needs to max out his class skill plus get buffed by Miranda's own maxed-out class skill to even approach Shepard's.

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yorkj86 wrote...

I just noticed that there isn't much fanfic of  biotics-capable Shepard and Jack being in a relationship.  Does it detract from how biotics are an important part of Jack's character?


Sure, biotics are an important aspect of Jack, but they're not what makes Jack Jack. A part of it, sure, but not the reason to the rhyme. Same with Shep. I tend only to use them for colour in my stories because I'm more interested in the couple's dynamic; they're incredible humans, but I want to spend more time painting them as a man and woman we can see grounded in reality. I want to focus on emotions over other stuff - as I guess you'll all have noticed already ;)

I might go all "Action-Jack" once in a while, but I want to talk with my heart more than my death ray eyes :D

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Epantiras wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...
 Lastly, there's no chance that I would take Gillian in to a combat situation.


True ;-) she could just create a singularity that would end up sucking in both baddies and your team!

But give her time... i wonder how powerful she'll be once she gets as old as Jack (wich is somewhere between 1 month and 10,000 years :P)


These biotic abilities seem to be the product of eezo-presence, implants, instruction, and practice.  I don't doubt that Jack could produce a singularity, too.

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Well how about an Update then?

Also not having read any of the novelizations Grayson and Mitra were mentioned because from what I heard they both are powerful. Example Grayson can use Singularity which if I am correct is basically a Biotically Forced Blackhole and I might be wrong but I mean come on thats pretty Wicked. But Grayson drops below Adept Shepard mainly because lack of control and Inexperiance as well as her condition.

Human Biotics
Most Talented and Gifted Biotic:
1.Jack
2.Adept Shepard
3.Gillian Grayson

Talented Combat Biotic's:
5.Kaidan Alenko
6.Hendel Mitra
7.Jacob Taylor

Honorable Mention:
8.Miranda Lawson

Modifié par BobZilla 2k10, 19 août 2010 - 08:05 .


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Mondo47 wrote...

Sure, biotics are an important aspect of Jack, but they're not what makes Jack Jack. A part of it, sure, but not the reason to the rhyme. Same with Shep. I tend only to use them for colour in my stories because I'm more interested in the couple's dynamic; they're incredible humans, but I want to spend more time painting them as a man and woman we can see grounded in reality. I want to focus on emotions over other stuff - as I guess you'll all have noticed already ;)

I might go all "Action-Jack" once in a while, but I want to talk with my heart more than my death ray eyes :D


I just say that they're an important part of her character because people tend to exploit her whenever they find out that she has these incredible abilities.  It's likely that one reason she has for assuming the toughguy image is to drive people away from even thinking of toying with her.  It's also one reason why Jack doesn't believe, at first, that Shepard has no ulterior motives.

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I'm wiht Johnny on the issue, To me it seems that all shepard is saying is, I like you however I want to find out more about you before making further investments. AKA well go on a few more "dates" to see how it goes.

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Well, seeing as my Shepard's a Sentinel, fresh off of ressurection, I'd say that I wouldn't as the non-Shep/Jack biotic relationship...Even if that wasn't what you meant; I'm fresh off of a nap.

But I'm not gonna hold any illusions that Shep's stronger than Jack. Not by a f*cking longshot. Like I said, Shepard -- mine -- gained his biotic abilities during the Lazarus project; he didn't have them before death. Because of which, he lacks the capability, and training -- something he makes up for by 'Bardocking' it.

Whenever I do have either one using their biotics, I try to show the difference between the level of their strength. For example:

 Jack's able to smear bones into paste with a single throw, or cause someone -- namely a unnamed Turian -- to internally explode; Shepard's only able to knock them far.

Jack's able to run into the middle of danger, using her talents without a well thought out plan, as evident in her recruitment mission; Shepard'd get killed, if all he relied on were biotics.

Without Jack's help, Shepard probably wouldn't have been able to slingshot Blue Suns off of a metal bridge. We'll never know.


In terms of the list, though, I believe that Miranda holds second to last; I mean, Thane doesn't look like he uses his abilities, at all. That's not to say he isn't talented, but it seems like they gave those abilities to compensate for having to fight like soldier, rather than an assasin, in Shepard's team.

But the top of the list is fine. I'm all with that.


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@Sundown - I could NOT make it through the entirety of both videos.  I can't afford to be chuckling maniacally all day.  Image IPB



I don't blame you. It's most funny when it catches me by surprise. How it does, when I know when it's coming, is beyond me. Image IPB

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I wonder if Jack has to pay taxes since she is basically off the grid. Even if taxes exist in the Mass Effect universe I doubt Jack would ever pay them anyway.



I wonder how Jacks missing Identity would effect her relationship with Shepard. How does Jack get pass Bailey and that Turian scanner back on the citadel anyway?



Perhaps if Jack does register her name to become part of the galactic community for whatever reason does that mean all those crimes she did not answer to will catch up to her? Would Jack have to live a clandestine lifestyle is she is in a relationship with Shep since the spot light is aways on Shepard?

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The image of Jack doing her taxes is hilarious.  Just sayin'.  :lol:

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jack is the best.