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#13801
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yorkj86 wrote...

I want to hear what she thinks about the neural degeneration. I wonder if she's even aware. If she is, like you said, she probably doesn't care. She doesn't expect to live that long to suffer the effects of the neural degeneration. It'd be pretty heavy stuff if she were to talk with Shepard about it, though.


There is one glimmer of hope in all this - we know all biotics over time suffer from neural degeneration; no biotic is exempt from the effects, all "magic powers" come with a price in fiction, all that jazz. We don't really know how long Jack would or could expect to survive... if the neural degeneration slides in like an Alzheimer's-like effect, then it'd be a tragic slowburning doom that would leave her losing her cognative ability, or it could have effects like Parkinsons, or a dozen other degenerative brain disorders that exist in reality. This is still the future though... we can bring people back from the dead, remember... who knows what regular procedures are available for biotic users? Jack could always buy more time one way or another.

If she can't though, and she has a fuse burning on a death that isn't an on/off switch... I think Jack would be right back in little girl mode again; something she can't fight is going to finish her off, and not in a simple blitz of finality, but in a slow, cruel manner that will leave her all but dead without finishing the job. And after the fear has been dealt with... ohboy would she be angry... anyone in a Cerberus uniform would be fair game for the ol' turning inside-out treatment. She'd go superdestructive - on one hand to punish anyone even remotely responsible for it, and in another sense, hopefully give her a quick death.

There's another option, though... one that is much more poigniant and worthy of Jack; come on, the girl has been through enough in her life. Leaving her a vegetable would just be the final insult (and would just show the writers as utterly heartless). The universe might be big and uncaring, but the creatures that live in it do care. And if someone (stand up, Shepard!) cares for Jack... much like the old Marlowe-ending of Blade Runner, Shep doesn't know how long they'll have together, but they'll make it count. Jack might just want to risk such a dreadful end to finally experience a normal life. Compared to the life of misery and pain she's had, a few years of life the way it should be... that would be worth it. It would be sad, but it would be a really, really beautiful way to end her story... it'd mean she had the most awesome, tearjerking romance of the game - it would totally screw every last drop of impact out of every other romance; sod Tali's crap immune system, to hell with Liara's inability to let a dead man stay dead, not one person would walk out of the theatre with a dry eye, I tell you.

And hey, this is sci-fi, after all; it's a galaxy of deus-ex-machina out there... Jack might becomre powerful enough to exist without a functional body a'la Jack the Bodiless, or she might learn to pour her mind into another body like in Scanners, or someone might just come along and wave a wand and fix it, like death no longer puts a crimp on Shep's day ;)

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stefanbw wrote...

axl99 wrote...

[EDIT: just got back from FanExpo. Here's a photo I had a buddy take of yorkj86 and myself. Guess who's busting the "typical azn pose".]


Well it's still a better pose than the woman behind you lol. :lol:


She's totally checking your ass out, man! I think you were in there... :D

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Whoever she is, she's checked out as many asses as books in a library. [OH SNAP]

I think it'd be tragic and overly melodramatic if Jack started losing memories of her time with Shepard while he struggles with restarting his relationship with her every time she forgets. Maybe he'll start tattooing himself.

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axl99 wrote...

Whoever she is, she's checked out as many asses as books in a library. [OH SNAP]

I think it'd be tragic and overly melodramatic if Jack started losing memories of her time with Shepard while he struggles with restarting his relationship with her every time she forgets. Maybe he'll start tattooing himself.


"50 First Dates", Mass Effect-style?  Adam Sandler as Commander Shepard?

What have I done?

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It will be interesting if this neural degeneration is touched on in ME3.

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yorkj86 wrote...

"50 First Dates", Mass Effect-style?  Adam Sandler as Commander Shepard?

What have I done?


You just got the Drewster in the franchise, that's what you've done! I love you :kissing:

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axl99 wrote...

Whoever she is, she's checked out as many asses as books in a library. [OH SNAP]

I think it'd be tragic and overly melodramatic if Jack started losing memories of her time with Shepard while he struggles with restarting his relationship with her every time she forgets. Maybe he'll start tattooing himself.

"40 First Dates" with Jack? That would be... hazardous. Gotta figure one would go bad for Shepard at some point. 

Edit: Damn. Scooped. 

Modifié par MHRazer, 30 août 2010 - 03:13 .


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JohnnyDollar wrote...

It will be interesting if this neural degeneration is touched on in ME3.


Maybe they'll briefly mention a cure to the neural degeneration in the Cerberus Daily News, like they did with Kepral's Syndrome, and then never speak of it again.  All human biotics experience it in some form, so it seems pretty important to try to cure it.

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axl99 wrote...

[drumroll.]


What's going on?  :blink:

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yorkj86 wrote...
Maybe they'll briefly mention a cure to the neural degeneration in the Cerberus Daily News, like they did with Kepral's Syndrome, and then never speak of it again.  All human biotics experience it in some form, so it seems pretty important to try to cure it.

I didn't hear about the cure of Kepral's Syndrome.  Of course I've only read the Cerberus Daily News about 3 times.:D

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I'm tired.

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I'm sorry, just.....I'm sorry.

It's ME related, I will say that. Meant to provide humor.

Modifié par Sundown Native, 30 août 2010 - 04:35 .


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yorkj86 wrote...

I'm tired.

Maybe it's because I'm tired too, but that had me bawling. :lol:

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yorkj86 wrote...

tommyt_1994 wrote...

I found that question interesting as well. Is it immoral to take the biotic upgrade found in Pragia? I never really put any thought into it until someone brought it up. It's certainly an interesting topic. Would you taking it be wrong because of how the research was obtained? Or would it be wrong to let all that torturing occur and nothing come of it and let that pain go to waste by passing by the research?


Not that upgrade, the one specifically for Jack.  It increases her biotic damage by 20%.

"Subject Zero Biotic Boost

Jack gets +20% biotic damage

Jack's vital signs show progressive neural degeneration, which would normally decrease her potential ability to generate mass effect fields.  Instead, her ability appears to be increasing. Replacing the power module in her bio-amp with a higher-capacity prototype module would dramatically increase the strength of Jack's biotics."

The question is whether or not this will accelerate Jack's neural degeneration.   If it does, is it immoral, and cruel to her, to research the upgrade, from a roleplaying perspective?

Oh I knew which upgrade you were talking about, I just brought this one up as well

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yorkj86 wrote...

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I'm tired.


Nice one, laf.

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No way to know for certain if the upgrade would, lore wise, hasten or amplify the degeneration effect (if there even is one for Jack). Metagame wise though, it's very unlikely that upgrading her will actually have an effect on her in ME3.

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Collider wrote...

No way to know for certain if the upgrade would, lore wise, hasten or amplify the degeneration effect (if there even is one for Jack). Metagame wise though, it's very unlikely that upgrading her will actually have an effect on her in ME3.


I concur.  Killing an LI via codex entry would be an ass move.  I don't think anything's gonna come of the neural degradation in ME3.  That's far too akin to cheating.

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stefanbw wrote...

axl99 wrote...

[EDIT: just got back from FanExpo. Here's a photo I had a buddy take of yorkj86 and myself. Guess who's busting the "typical azn pose".]


Well it's still a better pose than the woman behind you lol. :lol:


Hold on a sec, where's that photo everyone's talking about!?

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Did everyone see the thread posted by the developers, asking for suggestions on new outfits for another appearance pack DLC?

EDIT: Thanks, Epantiras, for bringing the thread to my attention.

Modifié par yorkj86, 30 août 2010 - 01:19 .


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http://kotaku.com/56...fect-2/gallery/

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annihilator27 wrote...

http://kotaku.com/56...fect-2/gallery/


"resident whackjob of the SSV Normandy"

Oh, Slowtaku!

#13823
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"resident whackjob of the SSV Normandy"

Oh, Slowtaku!


I like things like that... getting to see the comments left by other people. And my favorite ones have to be the "I hate Jack" ones. You can almost hear the marginally-masculine, undescended-testicle-induced nasal whining voices intoning over and over like it's a zen quotation... I hate Jack, I hate Jack, I hate Jack, I'm gonna kill her on the suicide mission...

Newsflash - women don't have to live up to your expectations of what constitutes "woman" and as long as you think they should, good luck finding one to even talk to you who isn't your mother or who doesn't ask for a credit card number first.

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Bam - you're dismissed, assh*les :D

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Mondo's angry today, oh shi-

I tried leaving a comment pointing out the irony of someone wanting Jack dead because they dislike her, because she's a "psychopath", but it didn't get approved.

Oh well.  It's no skin off my back.

Modifié par yorkj86, 30 août 2010 - 02:23 .


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Some of those commenters have no empathy at all. The cosplayer's brave enough to even go out in public and shoot with the skin suit as is. I guess they forgot to google her page where she mentions the drunken frats who kept interrupting the shoot in Vegas.