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[Mondo47]

Those are really nice, Axl. I think I still like the first one the best, because it keeps that kinda futurist-design feel without becoming tinfoil-miniskirt territory... the one on the far right that seems to be getting the strongest reactions instantly made me think of Dune for some reason (got to admit, it's been years since I watched that movie, so I'm not entirely sure why).

And yeah, that first one is what she wore to meet Hannah that first time in San Francisco

The thing is, this whole serial murderer thing we're discussing, I think tabbing a character like Jack as one, you then end up having to tab Christ knows how many other fictional characters fit that bill. I really do think though that with Jack you do get a palpable sense of her not just being all about taking people out. Like I said before, sure, you get between Jack and what Jack wants, be that something material or just the exit door, chances are you're going down, but when she finds herself in a place where such mercenary thoughts aren't required for survival, where the power that she was given (and she points out she never had a choice in having) isn't all that defines her, she can be someone else... perhaps the person she could have been if none of her past had played out that way. And through that, perhaps, Jack may find a path to a redemption of sorts.

[Mondo47]

Pacifien wrote...

Epantiras doesn't need to actually type anything in this thread, she can just post her artwork in response to anything.

Maybe a question Jack should be asking is what Grunt is doing in the Ladies department and not the Weapons of Mass Destruction isle

Cue Grunt in a dress gag!

[Mondo47]

I take issue with him taking the ****** out of Jack for admiring a dress when it's blatantly what he's shopping for too! I'm saying he should just embrace his inner fabulousness and not feel the need to be so macho. Or he can get stuffed through a wall. His choice!

[axl99]

LOL what? WHAT? There's a PICTURE?

Mondo47 wrote...

Those are really nice, Axl. I think I
still like the first one the best, because it keeps that kinda
futurist-design feel without becoming tinfoil-miniskirt territory... the
one on the far right that seems to be getting the strongest reactions
instantly made me think of Dune for some reason (got to admit, it's been years since I watched that movie, so I'm not entirely sure why).

Yeah, I still like the first one on the left too myself. Making a dress for Jack is surprisingly hard - as she's covered in tats it's hard to make a strong design that has enough visual contrast to stand out. Solution: the simpler, the better.

Mondo47 wrote...

And yeah, that first one is what she wore to meet Hannah that first time in San Francisco ../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png

And the first one Shepard wanted to get Jack out of within mere seconds of seeing her in it.

Modifié par axl99, 03 septembre 2010 - 03:06 .

[MHRazer]

I like the first dress, or the middle one without the hat and scarf. On all of them, I just don't see high heels happening for Jack.Getting her into a dress would be hazardous enough for Shepard, high heels would just end up lodged into his person somewhere.

[Jackal904]

So does anyone here have a Shepard that romanced Liara in ME1, and then Jack in ME2? I'll need someone to tell me what happens during the Shadow Broker DLC if you romanced Liara in ME1 and then Jack in ME2. I think I'm more interested in seeing Liara's reaction to "cheating" on her than actually finding out the identity of the Shadow Broker .

@axl Great drawings. The first two from the left are my favorite.

adriano_c wrote...

Epantiras wrote...

I'm a soccer-ignorant Italian.

Embarrassing.

Is it ok if you're italian and you enjoy The Jersey Shore?

[MHRazer]

Jackal904 wrote...

Is it ok if you're italian and you enjoy The Jersey Shore?

No.

[Mondo47]

I honestly think Liara is likely to be pragmatic about it; asari are used to the concept of losing a partner due to their long lifespans, so I think that regardless of how borderline-obsessive about Shep she may seem, I think Liara would be likely to be fairly sanguine. I'm not saying she wouldn't be hurt, but I think she'd be likely to be more accepting of it. If anything, Jack might be the one to make some kind of comment - the two of them are really poles apart, so Jack might question why Shepard would be attracted to her at all.

Ashley and Jack though... that's the one I'm most interested in seeing...

[adriano_c]

The Liara character seems 'unstable' in the very least. Not in an endearing way, either, like Jack.

[adriano_c]

Jackal904 wrote...

Is it ok if you're italian and you enjoy The Jersey Shore?

Not seen the series myself, but by all accounts, it's a bunch of Italian-Americans acting like stereotypical buffoons?

[Epantiras]

axl99 wrote...

The second sketch is my personal favourite, but the third one is cool too, it reminds me of that short comic I've drawn for York in which Jack was an arti critic in Donovan Hock's vault

yorkj86 wrote...

axl99 wrote...

LOL what? WHAT? There's a PICTURE?

http://i29.tinypic.com/345zjhc.jpg

Just a link.

That just blew up my brain XD

[Jackal904]

Mondo47 wrote...

Ashley and Jack though... that's the one I'm most interested in seeing...

Same here. I think you're right about Liara. She'll probably be very understanding, so unfortunatley that would mean there won't be an epic cat fight . But Ashley on the other hand, I don't think she will be understanding at all. If she can't take being dead as a good excuse for dissappearing, then I highly doubt she'll be even the least bit understanding that you've hooked up with someone else, especially with Jack.

adriano_c wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

Is it ok if you're italian and you enjoy The Jersey Shore?

Not seen the series myself, but by all accounts, it's a bunch of Italian-Americans acting like stereotypical buffoons?

Yep. And people think that because I'm italian I should hate it. I'm sorry but that show is extremely entertaining.

[axl99]

Epantiras wrote...

axl99 wrote...

The second sketch is my personal favourite, but the third one is cool too, it reminds me of that short comic I've drawn for York in which Jack was an arti critic in Donovan Hock's vault

LOL! Alright, here's Beatnick Jack, just for you Ep

[royceclemens]

Jackal904 wrote...

Same here. I think you're right about Liara. She'll probably be very understanding, so unfortunatley that would mean there won't be an epic cat fight .

Well... You know that shot in the trailer where Liara is hunched over crying?  Whatever did that hit her worse than her mother dying.  I don't think the prospect/option/inevitability of Feron dying will do that to her.  But losing Shepard AGAIN?  Just the prospect of Liara caving in because I screwed around has me antsy about the whole thing.  I mean, I'm still gonna do it just to see what happens, but I rigged up another playthrough to keep Jack out of it.  Just in the off-chance that Liara whirls around and puts a bullet in the third party.  I don't want Jack to get hurt, but I'd be okay with losing Thane.

And I'm gonna have to disagree with some here and say that Liara will not handle it well.  At all.  She went up against the Shadow Broker and insectoid Reaper-flunkies on a shot in the dark to bring Shep back from the dead.  And yeah, Asari have a chilled view of their partners dying... But I'm willing to bet that first one's a killer.

But I will agree with you on one thing, Jackal... I find Jersey Shore funny too.  And for not making a Jack-centric post, I have been excluded from chicken cutlet night.

[Mondo47]

I have a simple solution to the problem of Liara potentially plugging Jack. About a split second later, I plug her. That sh*t will not fly with me - the whole corpse-obsession thing was already Fatal Attraction enough. Hell, she so much as points a gun at her... safety's off. That's all I'm sayin'...

[Jackal904]

yorkj86 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

I don't see any kind of confrontation between Liara and another LI, other than Liara referring to one of them in her dialog with Shepard, maybe.  I don't understand what this desire to see a "catfight" is all about.  Of course it wouldn't be a "catfight" if FemShep romanced someone.

It's a morbid fascination, I think, like being unable to look away from a trainwreck.

Pretty much. And I just really want to see Jack get into a fight with someone that's not a faceless henchman. And for that non-faceless henchman to be an ex-squadmate; that would be even more interesting .

royceclemens wrote...

But I will agree with you on one thing, Jackal... I find Jersey Shore funny too.  And for not making a Jack-centric post, I have been excluded from chicken cutlet night.

Lol . That's ok, we'll sneak in, extract the good chicken, and put the bad chicken to sleep.

Modifié par Jackal904, 04 septembre 2010 - 01:59 .

[Pacifien]

I'm not a fan of this whole melodramatic confrontation idea either. Ignoring Liara for a moment, I don't see there needs to be any reason for a confrontation of your new LI versus Kaidan/Ashley. Shepard could either view that Horizon business as a momentary hurdle that needs to be crossed in order to continue the romance with them or you can view it as a true breakup, a parting of the ways. The only way you can view it as cheating is if you went with an ME2 romance fully intending to return to your ME1 romance, but my Shepards that romanced another in ME2 pretty much felt Horizon was a clean break. The only confrontation I see here is the ME1/ME2 love interests confronting Shepard demanding he make a choice -- the only one getting any of that potential slap across the face is Shepard then.

But going back to Liara, there really is no clean break for them in ME2 other than her desire to continue with her own mission versus Shepard's. Which was a very lame reason, I might add. Did she manage to forget all that stuff from the Prothean beacon that she also saw? Wait... I'm in the wrong thread...

Okay, so anyway, Liara might be hurt if Shepard let her go, especially after all she had done to save his body, but she seems to have a bit of the philosophical nature that Asari tend to have with their relationships. (I think of the Asari telling her Turian mate "The important thing is to appreciate the time you have to spend with a fish." "Is this the lifespan talk? We're not having the lifespan talk!") So if Shepard told Liara their relationship was over, that's the end of story. She accepts it without feeling the need to press the issue further.

Okay, so bringing this all back to Jack, I can see her feeling uneasy and threatened by Liara. Or Ashley. She has opened up her heart to Shepard and now she has to watch him with a person that, to his memory, was his romantic interest quite recently. If he showed lingering interest or even dumped Jack, everything Jack had managed to learn from her time on the Normandy is undone. He's just another man who used her to get what he wants, then dumped her for a better prospect. Do I see a catfight between Jack and Liara? Only if Liara was using her own biotics to shield Shepard from Jack's wrath upon him. Don't think she'd give a **** about Liara, she's not the problem here. It's all Shepard.

So if we're to assume this takes place in between ME2 and ME3, I think Jack would simply leave. Or maybe she'd be in her "F*ck off!" stage whenever you talk to her for the rest of whatever you do in ME2 and then she's gone in the next game.

Modifié par Pacifien, 04 septembre 2010 - 02:10 .

[Pacifien]

Oh, as for how I'd like Jack to react in LotSB? Ask Shepard who Liara is, give him a credulous look if she suspects there was something between him and Liara in the past. Transfer to "F*ck off!" mode if he expressed a desire to return to Liara. Otherwise, without a romance, just the usual snarky comments that Jack is so great at producing.