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[Jackal904]

[quote]Urdaniel wrote...

1) I also didn't appreciate the marginalization of the third squaddie (Jack of course) in the final boss fight.[/quote]

Yeah I agree. It's especially strange if you bring your LI because Shepard jumps to protect Liara instead of your LI when the Shadow Broker goes crazy. "My boyfriend/girlfriend is pancaked under debree right now? Oh well." Things like that you just have to brush off though. It doesn't really mean anything. It's just a way to setup the whole epic battle between the Shadow Broker vs. Shepard and Liara.

2) I'm just glad nothing we found out invalidates anything I've done or plan to do fanfiction wise.  And no, I'm not finished with 5B yet, sorry.  I'll try not to take 3 months this time, that's all I can say. 
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No problem  Looking forward to it .

[MHRazer]

Bah, I messed up. I used my first ME1 import Shepard to play the DLC, but he isn't far enough into Jack's romance and didn't romance anyone in ME1. Missed that whole conversation.

[Urdaniel]

yorkj86 wrote...

Hey, look, it's Urdaniel!  Were you as sickened by Cerberus at their treatment of Jack and mother as I was?

Yep, all the more reason to destroy the base and go gunning for Cerberus once the Reapers are dealt with.  I found it interesting, btw, that the Shadow Broker was thinking of assassinating TIM and wrecking Cerberus - at least that's the way I read the little blurb on Miranda's dossier.  And I'd have to agree with Mondo; I'm actually gaining a little sympathy for Ms. Perfect now that we know she's incapable of bearing children - something which several folks on this thread (myself included) believe to be true for Jack as well.


EDIT: Added part about Jack being unable to bear children.  Also, do we have any formal (e.g. credits or somesuch) confirmation that Jack's VA is also Vasir's VA?  I'm personally not quite convinced; but then again I've only had the opportunity to play the DLC once.

Modifié par Urdaniel, 09 septembre 2010 - 04:15 .

[axl99]

Ahhh yes. Miranda. Her father's final insult to her is to make her unable to leave anything of her own self behind.



As for Jack's past... It kinda throws a couple of my own ideas out the window but not by much. It'd have been awesome if Jack's mom was a pirate who ended up settling down on Eden Prime. But I'm just letting my imagination get the better of me. Can't imagine what she'd think of Jack all grown up and everything.

[Collider]

Cerberus is turning out worse and worse with each DLC.

[Urdaniel]

I'll say that imo, Eden Prime is overused.  First, we have it be the setting for the opening mission of ME.  Then we find out that Jacob was on-planet but off-stage during that same mission.  Now we hear that Jack and her parents hail from there.  The galaxy's not THAT small, is it?  I think - to go off on a slight tangent - that this is the reason a lot of people believe that Aethyta can't be one of Liara's parents because "what are the odds her mother is working barely a hundred meters from her office?"  In the same vein, what are the odds all of these major players being linked to Eden Prime?  And just to go back to the tangent for a second, there's a plausible (if not particularly likely) reason for Aethyta and Liara to be in close proximity: Aethyta is keeping an eye on her.  But that raises the question of why Liara wouldn't know that to be the case and why she wouldn't mention it.  But I'll stop there before I go too far off-thread.

BTW, this is very belated, but I noticed that Pacifien became a mod.  Congratulations to you.

EDIT: @york - never heard that line myself, so I'm no help in that regard, sorry.

Modifié par Urdaniel, 09 septembre 2010 - 04:36 .

[Gethforceone]

Urdaniel wrote...

I'll say that imo, Eden Prime is overused.  First, we have it be the setting for the opening mission of ME.  Then we find out that Jacob was on-planet but off-stage during that same mission.  Now we hear that Jack and her parents hail from there.  The galaxy's not THAT small, is it?  I think - to go off on a slight tangent - that this is the reason a lot of people believe that Aethyta can't be one of Liara's parents because "what are the odds her mother is working barely a hundred meters from her office?"  In the same vein, what are the odds all of these major players being linked to Eden Prime?  And just to go back to the tangent for a second, there's a plausible (if not particularly likely) reason for Aethyta and Liara to be in close proximity: Aethyta is keeping an eye on her.  But that raises the question of why Liara wouldn't know that to be the case and why she wouldn't mention it.  But I'll stop there before I go too far off-thread.

BTW, this is very belated, but I noticed that Pacifien became a mod.  Congratulations to you.

EDIT: @york - never heard that line myself, so I'm no help in that regard, sorry.

I;d hardly call three events overused.

[axl99]

Ah right... Talking to Jack after her loyalty mission is when she lies down on her cot saying the line that goes along the tune of:

"You don't know what it's like Shepard, to have garbage like that following you. [touching abdomen] It marks you in ways you.... you don't expect."

Modifié par axl99, 09 septembre 2010 - 04:43 .

[BobbyTheI]

Well, that's it, I'm done.  I just can't find it in myself to like Jack anymore after LotSB.

I mean, murder, theft, mayhem and destruction, I can roll with that.  But finding out that she's a forum troll... well, I have my standards. 

(I did like the little detail of opening Shepard's Spectre induction video and almost immediately closing it.  Probably worried somebody'd catch her checking out the Commander.)

[Pacifien]

BobbyTheI wrote...
Well, that's it, I'm done.  I just can't find it in myself to like Jack anymore after LotSB.

I mean, murder, theft, mayhem and destruction, I can roll with that.  But finding out that she's a forum troll... well, I have my standards. 

(I did like the little detail of opening Shepard's Spectre induction video and almost immediately closing it.  Probably worried somebody'd catch her checking out the Commander.)

Gods. What would I do in a forum full of Jacks to moderate...

Regarding the Spectre video, though, even I'd shut that thing off after a few seconds. Little full of themselves, the Council, Humanity, and those Spectres.

[Gethforceone]

Pacifien wrote...

BobbyTheI wrote...
Well, that's it, I'm done.  I just can't find it in myself to like Jack anymore after LotSB.

I mean, murder, theft, mayhem and destruction, I can roll with that.  But finding out that she's a forum troll... well, I have my standards. 

(I did like the little detail of opening Shepard's Spectre induction video and almost immediately closing it.  Probably worried somebody'd catch her checking out the Commander.)

Gods. What would I do in a forum full of Jacks to moderate...

Regarding the Spectre video, though, even I'd shut that thing off after a few seconds. Little full of themselves, the Council, Humanity, and those Spectres.

B-b-but it was so epic!

[Dominus5412]

Regarding the Spectre video, though, even I'd shut that thing off after a few seconds.

This. I was Shepard, the one being granted PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWERS, and even I thought it was boring.

[Urdaniel]

Three events as a number hardly qualifies as overuse, I agree.  But to have three major plot points tied to one colony that isn't a hub like say Omega, Ilium, or the Citadel?  Still and all, it's just an opinion on my part.  And that and 25 cents won't even get you a cup of coffee these days. 

[DarthCaine]

I noticed from the intel base. All the new revelations we've gotten are about LIs which seems to fit with my theory that all the LIs will be recruitable in ME3. I think the stuff revealed in the dossiers will be loyalty missions (Jack: find her mother, Miranda: get her pregnant lol, Liara: find her "father", Garrus: something about his sister/brother, Thane: Cure him etc)

[Iwakura-Lain]

After playing Lair of the Shadowbroker, a litte tribute to Jack (who so very few people seem to love, but for who I have a particular weak spot):

ranka-mei.deviantart.com/art/The-Files-Of-The-Shadowbroker-178623103

From the files of the Shadowbroker come this new revelation about Jack: a dark poem written by her, revealing, amongst other things, the reasons for her tattoos.

Modifié par Iwakura-Lain, 09 septembre 2010 - 11:13 .

[Mondo47]

yorkj86 wrote...

I noticed that we don't yet have any pictures of Jack on the SB mission. What's up with that? Is it because the cutscenes typically focus on Liara?

I wonder why Jack's poem was rejected.  Did they think it just wasn't very good?  It looks like she poured her heart in to it.  Was it too depressing for a poetry submission contest?  That's a pretty lame reason.

Oh, don't we?


"Ok, let's grease this fat f*cker."


"Keep your hands where I can see 'em, Frogboy..."

As for the rejection of Jack's poetry... well, poetry, much like any other intellectual circle, is about as snobbish and closed-minded as they come. You don't tow a particular popular line, or you write something that either goes in a new direction or is just plain better that what already exists, it gets decried, derided and tossed out. You have to wait for the fat bastards that are hogging the trough to die before you get a look in. True, it is a little angst-y in the Henry Rollins King (or Queen) of Pain school, but that doesn't make it invalid expression. Unless of course you're writing for a Hallmark card market...

[Jackal904]

Was her poem actually rejected? Or were they simply suggesting that her poems should be structured a certain way?

[Iwakura-Lain]

Jackal904 wrote...

Was her poem actually rejected? Or were they simply suggesting that her poems should be structured a certain way?

Yes, it was rejected because, to quote Megan McArnon, from Galatic Poetry Monthly:

"Dear Jacqueline Nought,

Thank you for your submission to Galatic Poetry Monthly. We regret that we are are unable to use your submission at this time. Galatic Poetry Monthly generally focusses on metered verse, and you may wish to check the guidelines before submittings again."

Modifié par Iwakura-Lain, 09 septembre 2010 - 03:07 .