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[Geth Knight]

Firmijn wrote...

Geth Knight wrote...

Jack is my second favorite character. Right after Tali. I am sorry to everyone who disagrees with me......please dont kill me.

Dont worry. You wont find a crazy horde here, massive in its numbers, hellbend on preaching the character that pleases them the most.

No we are not like...... the example above:?

Is that a jab at the Tali thread? Because not all of us are like that either.

[Azint]

It's nice to see a character thread where the usuals don't hate you for having an adjacent preferred character.

Also; What is this I've been hearing of Jack dying?

[Firmijn]

Geth Knight wrote...

Firmijn wrote...

Geth Knight wrote...

Jack is my second favorite character. Right after Tali. I am sorry to everyone who disagrees with me......please dont kill me.

Dont worry. You wont find a crazy horde here, massive in its numbers, hellbend on preaching the character that pleases them the most.

No we are not like...... the example above:?

Is that a jab at the Tali thread? Because not all of us are like that either.

No jab, at worst a friendly sting:happy:
feel welcome here, please

[Geth Knight]

Dont do the right upgrade. Possibly by Seeker swarm. Not have her loyal. All horrible ways to go.

But I could see Jack blasting the swarm with biotics and then making her way back to the Normandy

Modifié par Geth Knight, 11 mars 2010 - 09:23 .

[Mondo47]

Azint wrote...

It's nice to see a character thread where the usuals don't hate you for having an adjacent preferred character.

Also; What is this I've been hearing of Jack dying?

It's a reference to L5X biotic implants causing long-term neural degeneration... basically her implants are causing brain damage over time, but where in a normal biotic this would decrease the effectiveness of biotic powers, Jack is increasing in strength. Could be some kind of runaway-train effect... but we have no timeline for how long she might have before she ends up too damaged to function - years, decades... there's nothing. It's not like Thane, who has an estimated life expectancy of eight to twelve months; there's just no detail with Jack, so she might not even be anywhere near dying.

S'all in the lap of the Gods... or the writers at least

[Arhka]

Is there any record of how long Jack has been imprisoned on Purgatory by any chance? Might help with her history.

Modifié par Arhka, 11 mars 2010 - 09:27 .

[royceclemens]

Geth Knight wrote...

Firmijn wrote...

Geth Knight wrote...

Jack is my second favorite character. Right after Tali. I am sorry to everyone who disagrees with me......please dont kill me.

Dont worry. You wont find a crazy horde here, massive in its numbers, hellbend on preaching the character that pleases them the most.

No we are not like...... the example above:?

Is that a jab at the Tali thread? Because not all of us are like that either.

It's just dawned on me how hard it must be for most Tali fans in this corner of the internet.  Honest and earnest affection for a damn good character spoken for by an extraordinarily alarming minority.  Don't worry, Geth Knight, you have nothing to fear here.  We may hurl honest criticism towards other characters, but the trash talk is kept to a minimum.

But going to Azint's question, according to her dossier, there's a mention of neural degradation stemming from her biotic ability.  It's just that with Jack, her powers are getting stronger as opposed to weaker.  But the degradation is common among biotics.  There's no real evidence that she's dying any more or any faster than, say, Kaidan or Jacob are.

[Geth Knight]

[Azint]

All right got it, because I like Jack, and it was worrying me that they may kill her off soon.

[Zhijn]

royceclemens wrote...

But going to Azint's question, according to her dossier, there's a mention of neural degradation stemming from her biotic ability.  It's just that with Jack, her powers are getting stronger as opposed to weaker.  But the degradation is common among biotics.  There's no real evidence that she's dying any more or any faster than, say, Kaidan or Jacob are.

Would make for a awesome heartfelt moment tho. Shepard at Jack's side as she is slipping away.

Ah i can just see it, total oscar worthy.

[gneissguy2003]

Arhka wrote...

Is there any record of how long Jack has been imprisoned on Purgatory by any chance? Might help with her history.

Unforunately,
no. There's really nothing in your talks with her that gives any
meaningful dates or semblance of when certain things occured. The best
we've been able to do in this thread is narrow down approximately how
old she is since we know some of the people that "worked" on her at
Teltin planned to jump into the Ascension program... which has a solid
start date, and then we also know what year it is in ME2 so from there
we can approximate Jack's age to within 2-5 years.

Zhijn wrote...

Would make for a awesome heartfelt moment tho. Shepard at Jack's side as she is slipping away.



Ah i can just see it, total oscar worthy. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png

Actually, the idea of such a scene really bothers me. Like we've said, she's getting more powerful as the degredation continues. Eventually, her mental faculties will break down to a point where she will more than likely lose control of her body and its actions... all the while potentially throwing out disastrous displays of biotic power that could level a house. It's utterly depressing to think about, but I could see her literally asking Shepard to put a bullet through her head while she flails on the ground, helpless to stop herself.

*sigh* And you thought him rejecting her was depressing. I don't even want to consider this anymore.

Modifié par gneissguy2003, 11 mars 2010 - 09:39 .

[Geth Knight]

Zhijn wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

But going to Azint's question, according to her dossier, there's a mention of neural degradation stemming from her biotic ability.  It's just that with Jack, her powers are getting stronger as opposed to weaker.  But the degradation is common among biotics.  There's no real evidence that she's dying any more or any faster than, say, Kaidan or Jacob are.

Would make for a awesome heartfelt moment tho. Shepard at Jack's side as she is slipping away.

Ah i can just see it, total oscar worthy.

From a dramatic stand point that would rock if done properly. Now hear me out, I'm talking about a character who has been a tough as nails ****, takes what she wants from others and leaves them at an emotional distance, realize what is happening to them. They can feel their memories slip away. Starts off slowly, words here or there on the tip of their tongue, meeting people she knows she should know but can't recal. Powers being harder to control due to lack of clarity. Untill all that remains in a crying mess of a former warrior who has the mental process of a 7 year old girl.

[Firmijn]

Jack like that would break my heart.

[royceclemens]

Zhijn wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

But going to Azint's question, according to her dossier, there's a mention of neural degradation stemming from her biotic ability.  It's just that with Jack, her powers are getting stronger as opposed to weaker.  But the degradation is common among biotics.  There's no real evidence that she's dying any more or any faster than, say, Kaidan or Jacob are.

Would make for a awesome heartfelt moment tho. Shepard at Jack's side as she is slipping away.

Ah i can just see it, total oscar worthy.

It would, but if there isn't at least an option for a shoot-and-swear-off-into-the-sunset with Jack, I will be upset.  You honestly have no idea.

But this talk of dying squaddies reminds me of a question I've wanted to ask this thread for a while, and if you'd kindly indulge...

There's this rumor going around that there will be a "Cure Thane Krios" DLC coming sometime around the bend, which would lead me to believe that they'd do it for other squadmates as well.  If there were a Jack-centric DLC, what would you want to see in it?

[Mondo47]

Geth Knight wrote...

Zhijn wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

But going to Azint's question, according to her dossier, there's a mention of neural degradation stemming from her biotic ability.  It's just that with Jack, her powers are getting stronger as opposed to weaker.  But the degradation is common among biotics.  There's no real evidence that she's dying any more or any faster than, say, Kaidan or Jacob are.

Would make for a awesome heartfelt moment tho. Shepard at Jack's side as she is slipping away.

Ah i can just see it, total oscar worthy.

From a dramatic stand point that would rock if done properly. Now hear me out, I'm talking about a character who has been a tough as nails ****, takes what she wants from others and leaves them at an emotional distance, realize what is happening to them. They can feel their memories slip away. Starts off slowly, words here or there on the tip of their tongue, meeting people she knows she should know but can't recal. Powers being harder to control due to lack of clarity. Untill all that remains in a crying mess of a former warrior who has the mental process of a 7 year old girl.

Hopefully she'll be Miss 2% (one for all the Transmetropolitan readers)

Actually, that would remind me a little of Dream With The Fishes - a fantastic little movie if you've never seen it. It makes you laugh, it makes you cry, and then it makes you feel very happy and warm inside. It's like a chick-flick for Generation X guys

Modifié par Mondo47, 11 mars 2010 - 09:44 .

[Geth Knight]

I thought Thane's problem was terminal and no chance of curing. Since they live on the hanar homeworld now.



And I can't think of anything for Jack since you nuked that lab.

[Mondo47]

Geth Knight wrote...

I thought Thane's problem was terminal and no chance of curing. Since they live on the hanar homeworld now.

And I can't think of anything for Jack since you nuked that lab.

Other than finding out who Jack was before the lab... the little girl had to come from somewhere.

[Geth Knight]

Mondo47 wrote...
Hopefully she'll be Miss 2% (one for all the Transmetropolitan readers)

Actually, that would remind me a little of Dream With The Fishes - a fantastic little movie if you've never seen it. It makes you laugh, it makes you cry, and then it makes you feel very happy and warm inside. It's like a chick-flick for Generation X guys

I've never read Transmetropolitan and dont know who Miss 2% is. and never heard of Dream with the Fishes

Modifié par Geth Knight, 11 mars 2010 - 09:47 .

[Azint]

What do you think Jack's chances are of returning to the squad in ME3?

[Firmijn]

Well, if they can bring people back from the dead, they can cure a disease.

Guess thane is going to have glowing red eyes instead of those big black ones^^

[Jackal904]

Arhka wrote...

Is there any record of how long Jack has been imprisoned on Purgatory by any chance? Might help with her history.

Well seeing as how she has been around a lot and in multiple prisons and she is still very young, I can't imagine she has been there very long. She only mentions it once when you take her to the bathroom in the Dark Star Lounge.

Geth Knight wrote...

Zhijn wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

But going to Azint's question, according to her dossier, there's a mention of neural degradation stemming from her biotic ability.  It's just that with Jack, her powers are getting stronger as opposed to weaker.  But the degradation is common among biotics.  There's no real evidence that she's dying any more or any faster than, say, Kaidan or Jacob are.

Would make for a awesome heartfelt moment tho. Shepard at Jack's side as she is slipping away.

Ah i can just see it, total oscar worthy.

From a dramatic stand point that would rock if done properly. Now hear me out, I'm talking about a character who has been a tough as nails ****, takes what she wants from others and leaves them at an emotional distance, realize what is happening to them. They can feel their memories slip away. Starts off slowly, words here or there on the tip of their tongue, meeting people she knows she should know but can't recal. Powers being harder to control due to lack of clarity. Untill all that remains in a crying mess of a former warrior who has the mental process of a 7 year old girl.

That is definitely oscar worthy but I would be super pissed if it happened in ME3. I don't want this whole neural degeneration thing to even be acknowledged in ME3 let alone become an issue.

Azint wrote...

All right got it, because I like Jack, and it was worrying me that they may kill her off soon.

I don't think we have to worry about that anymore. Support for Jack has only increased, and based on interviews and videos with ME2 devs, she seems to be a dev favorite. Casey Hudson himself said she was the most interesting character in the game.

The Governator wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Should she survive the suicide mission, the rejected Jack should silently slip away next time the Normandy docks, never to be seen again...

And the next time Douchebag Shepard needs a huge biotic field or a space station ripping apart, he should think back, wonder what could have been, and promptly get his nuts shot off.

Karma. it's a ****

For a rejection?  You are evil.

Go through the paragon romance with Jack, then turn her down during the romance scene right before the final mission, and I think you'll agree with Mondo. The scene where Shepard rejects Jack is far more crushing than any of the other LI's by far, and that's a fact. It makes Shepard look like the king of douches.

BobbyTheI wrote...

To lighten things up a bit, I had to snicker at some lines in the romance conversations when there's a conflict (I usually only pursue one LI and ignore every other eligible character to avoid that, so I've never heard these before).  Jack's line of "So don't pretend you coming down here is special.  You make a lot of stops" gave me a chuckle, and all the lines are good at portraying Jack trying to say, "I want you to be only focused on me" while still trying to convince Shepard that she doesn't care what he does.

Another classic "Shepard is a douche" line from that one:  "I make choices on the battlefield.  Not in the bedroom." 

Lmao she calls you a douche if you talk to other LI's? That's awesome. I was planning on doing a playthrough as a maneating femShep, but I might also have to do a lady killer playthrough just to see all the interesting dialogue .

Modifié par Jackal904, 11 mars 2010 - 09:51 .

[Geth Knight]

Mondo47 wrote...

Geth Knight wrote...

I thought Thane's problem was terminal and no chance of curing. Since they live on the hanar homeworld now.

And I can't think of anything for Jack since you nuked that lab.

Other than finding out who Jack was before the lab... the little girl had to come from somewhere.

Like finding Jack's parents? Could probably be a touching scene. Maybe if they added the part about the neurogenic thing

Didn't even know there was anything wrong with Jack. Never could read her dossier.

Modifié par Geth Knight, 11 mars 2010 - 09:53 .

[Mondo47]

Geth Knight wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...
Hopefully she'll be Miss 2% (one for all the Transmetropolitan readers)

Actually, that would remind me a little of Dream With The Fishes - a fantastic little movie if you've never seen it. It makes you laugh, it makes you cry, and then it makes you feel very happy and warm inside. It's like a chick-flick for Generation X guys

I've never read Transmetropolitan and dont know who Miss 2% is. and never heard of Dream with the Fishes

Transmetropolitan is the best comic book series in the history of the universe (that isn't written by Alan Moore). You should read it ASAP.

Long story short, the hero of the series, Spider Jerusalem, ends up diagnosed with a brain disorder that has all the joys of Alzheimers and Parkinsons combined, with only a miniscule chance of the illness going into remission. In the last chapter he is living his last days in the countryside, growing vegetables and forgetting one day in every seven and needing a carer to light his cigarettes for him. He tells his best friend Royce not to come to see him again and that he'll never return to his job as a journalist. Once his buddy leaves, we see him take a cigarette out with shaky hands, draw a handgun, and...

You'll have to read it to see

Believe me though, it's a series that'll change the way you look at journalism, religion, politics, and the future. Epic stuff. And there's plenty of sex, violence and bad language - win/win! My kids are getting forced to read it once they're old enough.

As for Dream - www.imdb.com/title/tt0119019/

[royceclemens]

Geth Knight wrote...

Like finding Jack's parents? Could probably be a touching scene.

You mean Mr. Lawson?

Sorry.  Couldn't help myself.

But in reference to Azint's question on Jack's future squad status, I'm gonna say "middling-to-high."  A lot of writing went into her and I think that she (along with Thane, Jacob and Miranda) don't really have definable end points at the end of ME2.  Their characters haven't finished arcing yet.

If you ask me, every living LI is going to make up the squad, along with Kelly and three or four newbies. 

[Geth Knight]

I just had this odd thought of Jack in a dress. Smiling.