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[Gethforceone]

yorkj86 wrote...

Gethforceone wrote...

I never got why people think that just because >Insert Character's Name Here< is easier/harder to kill that they aren't as important.

Well, there's the Red Shirt phenomenon.  Then, there's just paranoia that one's favorite characters will be cut out of future titles for convenient reasons ("She died in most playthroughs, so let's make her a cameo, maybe").

But she's a LI, if the more popular LIs get then she's in be default.

[Gethforceone]

jtav wrote...

Because unlike Tali/Legion/Mordin, she has no obvious "this is important later" plot hook, I imagine. I don't find her that deep (I "got" her character pretty quick and nothing really surprised me later), but I do find her interesting. If it were me, I would have actually put her in the first game.

Tali/Legion/Mordin don't add any to the main plot either.

[Mondo47]

I think the whole "will Jack be in ME3" debate is less of a worry to me nowadays. BioWare have proved already that they are listening to our feedback, reading our posts, and noting the more interesting poll content and debates. Based on a lot of the polls, Jack is a lot more popular than you'd imagine at first glance (based on the loud, silly end of the b*tching spectrum), and she is very popular with the female audience that has been hungering for a strong, complex woman in a game. Sure, a lot of people love Tali, and a lot of people think Miranda is hot, and a lot of people are overjoyed Liara is back, and a lot of people are still sore that Ash isn't in the story properly yet. But Jack has a fanbase we can't ignore is bigger than those of us that talk here about her. I think she's safe... logically all the love interests are; we might have had some resolution with Liara, but none with Ash and Kaidan. This should make the characters like Jack a shoehorn in, unless of course there is a DLC showing up to deal with the Virmire survivor and that completes that section of the story. I might only get concerned again if there is an Ash/Kaidan DLC... but for now, I don't think there's anything to fret over.

[Nadya2]

Jack has one of the most beautiful faces in the game. imagine her without the tattoos, and her hair grown. she would be gorgeous. she also had to endure many hardships and tribulations through out her lifestime wich gives her a great personality. she is a tragic yet great character.

[Pacifien]

yorkj86 wrote...
Well, there's the Red Shirt phenomenon.  Then, there's just paranoia that one's favorite characters will be cut out of future titles for convenient reasons ("She died in most playthroughs, so let's make her a cameo, maybe").

Well, in that case, Mordin and Tali are doomed, man. Biggest cases of "why'd they die" in the suicide mission threads.

But I'm with Mondo, I'm not really that worried about it. Probably helps that I am one of the rare few who really wouldn't mind how many characters get cameo'd so long as the gameplay and story ran smoothly. I'm also a fan of having a squad size limit and far too many characters who can fill that squad, like the rpgs of old like Ultima and Baldur's Gate. You might have 20 potential squadmates in ME3, but you can only recruit 6 of them. That appeals to my old school RPG nature and all of you who disagree are whippersnappers.

ETA: And part of me likes the idea that if you don't recruit Jack, she's sitting at a table at Afterlife watching the dancers and drinking a beer for the duration of the game.

Modifié par Pacifien, 18 octobre 2010 - 04:27 .

[Pacifien]

yorkj86 wrote...
Even Jack likes the asari, huh?

Would we get a "Shepard, my friend!" from her if we pick her up?

She'll be sitting next to Zaeed who greets you with "Shepard! We were just waxing goddamn nostalgic!"

[Nadya2]

jack deserves something better than being stuck in the afterlife watching the dancers, so no thank you. i hope that never happens to her.

[PseudoEthnic]

yorkj86 wrote...

In retrospect, I'd have liked it if Jack's self-trained proficiency with weapons (guns) had been brought up through conversation, or mentioned in an off-hand way, such as while on a mission, or while running around a hub-world. If she expertly knew her way around weapons of all types, it would serve to make Jack seem a little less out-of-place on Shepard's team.  It wouldn't create any confusion about why she can't use those weapons on missions, because her biotic powers are toned down, too.

If I had it my way, I would make her a total Vanguard Of Destruction. Assault Rifles and shotguns, baby!

[Nadya2]

i think jack can take a different direction toward making some positive changes in her life and helping her heal the psycological scars from all the torment she experienced through out her childhood, she could be found working for that alliance academy that took care of the other children after the base was closed down by cerberus. and she could even look different, like no tattoos, and grown hair.

[Epantiras]

yorkj86 wrote...

Nadya2 wrote...

jack deserves something better than being stuck in the afterlife watching the dancers, so no thank you. i hope that never happens to her.

What would you recommend?  How would Shepard find her in ME3?  What would he find her doing, when he finds her?

Well, if Jack and Shepard ever become separated, it is imperative that she makes her way to the Friendly Arm Inn... oh, wait... wrong videogame :-P

My bet is somewhere fighting against Cerberus operatives on Omega, or maybe not so far from Sheps' starting location if we go with the "Shepard goes to prison" theory.

Nadya2 wrote...
 and she could even look different, like no tattoos, and grown hair.

I don't think I'd welcome that kind of changes... :innocent:

Modifié par Epantiras, 18 octobre 2010 - 05:46 .

[Pacifien]

Nadya2 wrote...
i think jack can take a different direction toward making some positive changes in her life and helping her heal the psycological scars from all the torment she experienced through out her childhood, she could be found working for that alliance academy that took care of the other children after the base was closed down by cerberus. and she could even look different, like no tattoos, and grown hair.

I'm indifferent to the hair argument, though some people find the shaved head is iconic of the character. The tattoos, though, are quite a personal symbol to Jack. They are her history, and even if she finds a positive change in the future, she shouldn't whitewash her past. Nor do I think she'd want to.

While I do see Jack as a potential mentor to other biotic kids, she'd be an unorthodox one. Not sure if the Alliance would want that at Grissom Academy, but you never know. After its importance in the past two novels and its mention in one of the DLCs, I'd like to see it as a location for ME3. It's at Elysium, yeah? Maybe make Elysium a hub world -- closest I'd really want to get to Earth. Well, maybe Arcturus Station. Jump Zero. Okay, maybe Titan. Closest I'd want to get to Earth in the game.

But anyway, I know some people are kind of done with the whole recruitment thing and don't want to have to round up all the squadmates all over again in ME3. I like recruiting, though. It's always a good excuse to bring Shepard to someplace different. Meeting Jack at Grissom Academy is certainly unique. She doesn't have to be working there in a official capacity. For all we know, she's using her time there as a means to discover any further Cerberus infiltrations into the Ascension Project. She can add undercover work to her resume.

[Nadya2]

exactly, i agree she should keep her tattoos and hairstyle. is part of who she is. i just dont want her to end up dwelling in the same crappy enviroments she spent most of her life. so omega is the last place she deserves to be. She also got to experience true and honest love and friendship for the first time with shep, you would imagine she had learned something afterwards from that! i think it would make no sense to keep jack in the exact same places , doing the exact samethings she hated deep down.

[adriano_c]

Epantiras wrote...

Well, if Jack and Shepard ever become separated, it is imperative that she makes her way to the Friendly Arm Inn...

Dunno why, but I found this really funny.

[Loki330]

Simply for the sheer mundanity of it, the idea of her settling down makes me laugh. I always imagine her (and Shepard actually) usually starting up their own mercenary company (or with Zaeed's blessing, initiate a 'hostile takeover' of the Blue Suns) instead of become the usual Family Guy/Girl. For some reason though, I can see Jack having lots of kids.

Modifié par Loki330, 18 octobre 2010 - 08:07 .

[adriano_c]

I'm the opposite. If she were to have a kid, I could see there being only one. Someone she'd dote over and be overly protective of.

[Errationatus]

yorkj86 wrote...

This picture needs a caption (that's Samara standing next to Jack, by the way):

How's this?

Modifié par JakeMacDon, 18 octobre 2010 - 09:51 .

[Pacifien]

How the other biotics get it done:

Modifié par Pacifien, 18 octobre 2010 - 10:39 .

[Barrendall]

Pacifien wrote...

How the other biotics get it done:

Does Samara have Stasis as a power?  I don't use her much honestly.  I like her character and all I just never use her much.

[Mondo47]

Barrendall111 wrote...

Does Samara have Stasis as a power?  I don't use her much honestly.  I like her character and all I just never use her much.

I have this issue with lots of characters to be frank... aside from their loyalty missions, I sometimes never use other team members because they just don't gel with my style of playing... besides, after I discovered Team Awesome, it was very hard to go back...



Not that I didn't try other people out occasionally...