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[Gethforceone]

PseudoEthnic wrote...

Legion would be useful if he didn't have a copy/paste basic set of powers, and a useless bonus power.

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Here's a question for you guys: If you weren't able to romance Jack, and can only be friends, who else would you romance in the game, or would you just stay single?

The only other LI option I liked, Ash.

[MHRazer]

PseudoEthnic wrote...

Here's a question for you guys: If you weren't able to romance Jack, and can only be friends, who else would you romance in the game, or would you just stay single?

Ashley.

[Pacifien]

If I wasn't able to romance Jack, I'd romance... oh wait, I didn't romance Jack. I don't want to romance anybody. I want a gun in each tentacle and woman in every port.

Wait...

Modifié par Pacifien, 20 octobre 2010 - 03:27 .

[Weiser_Cain]

PseudoEthnic wrote...
Here's a question for you guys: If you weren't able to romance Jack, and can only be friends, who else would you romance in the game, or would you just stay single?

Tali, I prefer Tali actually. It's too bad Jack wasn't bisexual, My female Shepards were really more Jack's speed personality-wise.

[royceclemens]

Tali. Oh, the things Tali and Shepard have in common...

-They're both members of a universally resented species.

-They both follow their consciences to the letter.

-Because of this, neither of their governments like them all that much.

-They're both the most visible members of their race.

In addition to that, though, it's just... Nice. Don't get me wrong, helping Jack get over her issues is rewarding, but it's not easy. Between her, Miranda's gradual dethaw, Liara's boundless ambition and Ashley's self-fulfilling bitterness, Tali is pretty much the only one who doesn't feel the need to hide the fact that she's happy to see me, and that should count for something. Not sayin' it wouldn't be rough going, what with the immune system thing and all, but it's a tough world out there and no one should be blamed for taking the option that feels good.

That being said, the Talimance is the one that I think's gonna have the Casablanca ending, but don't quote me.

Modifié par royceclemens, 20 octobre 2010 - 04:19 .

[Weiser_Cain]

It'd have been nice if I could have gone that extra mile helping them personally without starting a romance, Jack won't talk to me in my first playthrough. Oops.

[axl99]

Needs colour correction.

[GodWood]

PseudoEthnic wrote...
Here's a question for you guys: If you weren't able to romance Jack, and can only be friends, who else would you romance in the game, or would you just stay single?

I'd probably just play it as a one sided romance.

[GuardianAngel470]

GodWood wrote...

PseudoEthnic wrote...
Here's a question for you guys: If you weren't able to romance Jack, and can only be friends, who else would you romance in the game, or would you just stay single?

I'd probably just play it as a one sided romance.

I haven't ever romanced Jack. I'm the kind of guy that finds his rut and stays there until forcibly moved. Once I found the Tali romance, I didn't really look very hard at it. In hind sight, it was a shallow romance and not at all what I wanted from her character. In ME1 I loved her because she kicked some serious tail. She really did pull her own weight on the battlefield. I guess I always associated that with strength and her character.

So if I had to choose, I would most definitely choose Liara. Of all of them, she is the most developed. I still didn't like her character in ME1 and I still thought she went a little nuts there for a while, but LotSB did an excellent job of allaying my concerns for her sanity.

[AntiChri5]

If not Jack then Liara.

[AntiChri5]

Since the debate still rages regarding ME 3 squadmates, let me pose a hypothetical (and it bloody well better be hypothetical)

Some characters (Wrex, Liara) have been removed from the squad well. They were given good reasons for no longer being able to assist Shepard, and treated in a way that satisfied their fanbase. Others (Kai/Ash) not so much.

If Jack were to be removed from the squad in ME 3, how would you like it done? What is the best way to write her out?

[Loki330]

PseudoEthnic wrote...
Here's a question for you guys: If you weren't able to romance Jack, and can only be friends, who else would you romance in the game, or would you just stay single?

I'd probably do two playthroughs with a maleshep. I didn't bother with anyone in ME1 because Liara (and Asari in general) 'creep me out' for lack of a better term. I don't know why I just can't see them that way. Ashley? Well like with Kaiden I never really clicked with him. I spend ages agonising over Virmir (and still do) simply because if I want tech or biotics I have Tali/Liara (or myself) and if I want a 'tank' I have Wrex (or myself). After Horizon I'd just turn around and go 'Thanks for showing me some loyalty, **** off.' if I could in ME3 or the rumoured DLC.

Now I've typed that I suppose on the balance of things I'd go with Tali, then do a playthrough where he stays (ideally) with Kelly since I have a soft spot for her, to see what happens.

[Therion942]

PseudoEthnic wrote...

Legion would be useful if he didn't have a copy/paste basic set of powers, and a useless bonus power.

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Here's a question for you guys: If you weren't able to romance Jack, and can only be friends, who else would you romance in the game, or would you just stay single?

I wish there was a damn friendship option in the first place. Having to see character development on a player character that I have no intentions of carrying further in the series is annoying beyond belief. Playthroughs that are set up for continuation don't romance Jack, leaving those Shepards without that perspective on her, which is a serious bummer.

[Mondo47]

AntiChri5 wrote...

If Jack were to be removed from the squad in ME 3, how would you like it done? What is the best way to write her out?

Well I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, because my instant reaction to this question is "Well if they write Jack out and keep Miranda in..."

But how would I be able to deal with it... ok, the issue I have here is that a romanced Jack is not going to leave Shep; she has abandonment issues, she's not going to run if he tells her to run for some reason. She'd stay there until the bitterest of ends. She'd need something else to care about to leave Shep's side willingly...

So, in my book that leaves us with a couple of choices - we either seperate them by force or Jack needs something else to ensure she stays around but not alongside Shep on the frontline. So if Jack gets tossed in a cell to rot, it'd mean effectively writing her out for keeps; there's no way she'd forgive something like that happening to her again, and maybe if Shep allowed it to happen, she'd not forgive him either... the Alliance, Shepard, and the rest of the human race could rot. If some circumstance forced Shep to force her to go (say, off the top of my head, we go with the 'Shep gets Arrested' scenario, and he forces his crew to run to avoid detention and allow us to go recruit everyone again) I'm forced to question it again - would she forgive him? So we could possibly end up with him catching up to her only to have her kick the snot out of him and tell him to f*ck off for abandoning her when he promised he wouldn't. Not a nice prospect... emotionally resonant, but not a nice prospect. And if Jack did have to disappear... unless Cerberus tried to take her in yet again, I doubt you'd see her again.

Which leaves us with the idea that Jack needs something more to care for... and to remain in keeping with the character, unless she undergoes a huge sea-change and develops a huge amount of compassion for relative strangers, I can't see it making sense. Hell, maybe she could go take care of kids at Grissom, but to just handwave that in the way BioWare tends to (a'la Liara's "I'm an information broker now - there's no way I can help the person I love the most in the whole universe because it's just not time yet")... it's not going to wash. At least with me.

But if I had to... absolutely had to... I'll have to think about it. In my frame of mind today, I'm gonna have to work at it.

[Loki330]

Mondo, you forgot the (utterly cliched) 'Jack gets captured while seperated from Shepard, cue Shepard busting her out again' idea. Gets Jack out of the way, lets people who want her back get her back and more importantly neatly sidesteps the whole abandonment issue for the romance, as it allows something like this:

Explosions are heard in the background along with gunfire and klaxons. Jack is unaware of any of this though, utterly focused on the first thing she saw after being released from her cell.

"...Shepard? What the f**k are you doing here?"

"Oh you know, I was in the area, and I've been looking for a place to live for a while now and I've heard such great things about this area so I thought I'd have a look around for a potential flat and that I'd say 'hello' the locals and what the hell do you think!?"

He takes her hand and they start running

"Let's get out of here, Joker's waiting for us!"

Modifié par Loki330, 20 octobre 2010 - 01:36 .

[Mondo47]

I was assuming there that by "written out" what was meant was the way Wrex can't come along, or the way the Virmire survivor has no time for the "good old days"... if we end up with the hypothetical Jailbreak Scenario, it's not really writing out - it just means you have to go fetch 'em all over again. I can't help but think there's not going to be enough time to go recruit everyone all over again - the Reapers are coming and everyone's got to get in line or die. The writer in me thinks the story will have a lot more urgency, considering that doom will be sweeping into the galaxy like a tidal wave, so unless Shep's crew is resolved pretty damn fast it'll mean diluting the story (which based on foreshadowing at least is going to have to involve getting the quarians, the geth and the krogan into the battle, and convincing the Alliance and the Citadel Council that stuff needs to be done ASAP.

My logic on the whole question of how ME3 will open is with a real minimum of squadbuilding and diving right into the action... the jailbreak idea, and Shep going AWOL to get everyone to the battlelines while Shep goes to Planet X and finds the magic Reaper off-switch or whatever macguffin is going to save the day, if it needs everyone to go through all that recruitment/loyalty stuff again, it'll water down the story even further.

Like I said before, I'm not really that worried about Jack getting editor's-penciled-out of the whole shebang, I'm really more concerned about how the story will develop; in the second game we could afford to go down a notch in pace, but for the finale, that just won't wash.

[Gethforceone]

Wow York, it's hard to get used to changing your profile photo.

I keep think your someone else.

[adriano_c]

yorkj86 wrote...
What could make that even worse?  The fact that Shepard would obviously have no reaction to it.  <_<

He'd give one of those dead-eyed stares into the distance, as the camera points directly at his face, and some mournful piano notes ring out.

[Mondo47]

adriano_c wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...
What could make that even worse?  The fact that Shepard would obviously have no reaction to it.  <_<

He'd give one of those dead-eyed stares into the distance, as the camera points directly at his face, and some mournful piano notes ring out.

Followed by the thud thud thud of our collective heads against our desks...