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[Pacifien]

Poll.

[RocShemp]

Pacifien wrote...

Poll.

Three guesses who I voted for.

[tommyt_1994]

Pacifien wrote...

Poll.

Voted and *enters Okeer voice* I approve.

[Pacifien]

I do have to say I like my stompy boots. I fear no snakes when stomping across the countryside in my stompy boots.

Makes me wonder if Jack has a characteristic stomp. One where you can tell the person entering the room is Jack based solely on the sound/feel of the walk.

[jlb524]

Pacifien wrote...

Poll.

What is this I don't even???

[Epantiras]

JakeMacDon, I just wanted to say that your post is Internet GOLD

JakeMacDon wrote...

[...]
Grunt:  Love interest for Kelly.  He will accidently squash then eat her during their three week anniversary.  Will either stay with Shepard or go back to Tuchanka and help Wrex.  What else is there for him, really?

If this doesn't happen in ME3, I won't buy it (that was a joke).


Also, I'm quite sure that Shepard will have a chance to have a super heroic death ™ or just walk away in the sunset. That's what they did with the Warden in DAO, and DAO is just the first game of the franchise while we *know* ME3 is the last game to feature Shepard. I'll miss her... sigh!

Then Bioware will turn Mass Effect into a multiplayer FPS and I'll stop buying their games :innocent:

I *know* they're reading what we write here... and by saying they, I mean the Biodudes and their all-seeing-eyes. I *know* they *know* we want our characters back. They know we'll buy ME3 because we're their loyal customers. But they also know that we'll riot if we won't get what we want and if they won't give us something equally awesome back. Please don't disappoint us. Puuuleeeaasee! With sugar on top.


But... I liked ]JakeMacDon's idea of Samara "arriving just as you need her", maybe it's a bit deus-ex-machina, but it could be a good way to introduce "old characters" into ME3. Some may stay afterwards for the whole game, some may leave and "support Shepard behind the curtain".


To keep this post Jack-related, the Jack comic will definitely be finished within the end of November

[adriano_c]

Mondo47 wrote...

Everyone loves Wrex.

Not really.

[adriano_c]

DarthCaine wrote...

 I think it's "Everyone loves Garrus"

Nope. He's just an alien Steven Seagal.

[GodWood]

Everyone loves Mordin?

[adriano_c]

I think that one's accurate.

[Mondo47]

adriano_c wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Everyone loves Wrex.

Not really.

Ok, fine. I say everyone loves Wrex and everyone crawls out of the woodwork to say they don't. No bother. Even though the vast majority of the polls in this place paint him as easily one of the most popular characters in the game (and has polled similarly outside of the BioWare forums too). Not to worry. I love Wrex, ok? Heaven forbid I make a generalization about something as ephemoral as fictional characters...

[adriano_c]

Mondo47 wrote...

I say everyone loves Wrex and everyone crawls out of the woodwork to say they don't.

That's the risk you run when you italicize!

[GodWood]

I love Wrex.

[MHRazer]

Even if you didn't romance Jack, in which case I agree leaving Shepard would be the least likely thing she'd do, Bioware could still justify her sticking around although she gives indications she'll leave after the mission. Jack is all about survival; she knows what's coming now (more or less) and the only way she's gonna survive is if those nasty Reapers are beaten. Helping Shepard and his crew is clearly the most practical way to do that, and the way with the largest chance for success. She may not want to stay, but she would need to.

Because I don't think there's any chance Bioware will expend all the resources to make Jack (or anyone else) a full squadmate in ME3 unless they'll be around in most games. Obviously she won't be around if she died, but otherwise they'll at least give you the option of her sticking around. If they have any plans of her returning, of course.

Modifié par MHRazer, 31 octobre 2010 - 01:27 .

[RocShemp]

yorkj86 wrote...

 Maybe that's an indicator of another failing of a FPS/RPG hybrid - why invest points in Charm/Intimidate, when the person thinks that they can just shoot their way through all of their problems?

By that logic, all RPG's are pointless.  Why get to know any characters at all when you can just randomly hack, bash, or enchant your way through your character's story?

Modifié par RocShemp, 31 octobre 2010 - 04:24 .

[RocShemp]

Never because the developers never afforded them such an opportunity. In any case, it's moot point however since ME1 and ME2 are not FPS hybrids. They are TPS hybrids. And that's really just a cosmetic change for this kind of RPG since they just traded swords (and axes and hammers) for guns.

[Errationatus]

Mondo47 wrote...

You missed one... perhaps the most important of all...

Wrex

No, I mentioned Wrex.  I just assumed they'd leave him on Tuchanka, either for some last minute surfing a wave of a billion-angry-krogan-coming-to-save-you jazz, or you'd just end up being ignored by Wreav, because you were one of those unbelievably stoopid idiots that had Ashley brainlessly execute him, rather than talk.

Everyone loves Wrex. *SNIP*. I fully expect BioWare to kill him (because as good as BioWare are, they make a lot of very predictable choices in their stories... somtimes it's like reading an abridged version of Hero With A Thousand Faces - the cram-it-all-onto-six-pages version <_< ) . And I'm almost certain I will cry.

Don't cry, Mondo.  I will buy you a Wrex plushie and a krogan cookie if that happens.  If Bioware is going to go all out on ME3, and stay true to their "swinging wildly with many permutations" (paraphrase of a couple of statements in some interviews), then you'll get your Wrex, and you'll like it too. 

Unless you're super-picky. 

But... if it is not the most heroic death in videogame history... it's BioWare that'll be crying. From all the kicks in the nuts I'll be sending them in the mail.

Oh, and if they try the let's-give-Shepard-the-most-heroic-death-in-videogame-history gambit, see above. It was bad enough you railroaded me to death in Dragon Age: Origins. If you do it again, BioWare, I will fong you.

There is a downside from going the route the fans want.  Collectively, people are not that bright (witness any American election cycle), and most don't know sh!t about story development or character creation.  Again this majority is the reason why shows like "Big Brother" or "Survivor" get five million seasons and genius like "Dead Like Me", gets only two.  If we're lucky, Bioware has done their jobs and the end of Mass Effect has been planned from the beginning with intelligent gaps for fan prefs and mood swings.    If we're really lucky, they'll ignore most of those and just write something really fvcking cool and worth playing. 

That's the problem with a trilogy.  You can count on one hand how many there are watching all the way through.  Sometimes you get lucky.

Oh, and JACKJACKJACK!!!  She so bald.  Why can't she be normal so I can like her in my shallow, shallow way?

 
*Obligatory Jack Content*, lest Pacihammer come down on me.

Modifié par JakeMacDon, 31 octobre 2010 - 06:49 .

[Errationatus]

yorkj86 wrote...

It's interesting that some people think that Jack would be possessive of Shepard.   I think I've stated that before.  Urdaniel gives us a logical justification for how/why she might be possessive.  I assume that she would be possessive in a tsundere way.

If you've been handed nothing but crap your entire life - you believe little, and trust even less.  If that one thing you can believe in, trust and care about becomes yours, well, to paraphrase Shakescene, "you will grapple it to yourself with hoops of steel", and hold on as long as you can.  Of course, being too possessive is a downside to any relationship, and no doubt Shepard will have his "Jack, I'm having major surgery, can we do this later?", kinda thing and she getting pissy and upset because she'll interpret any rejection as a major rejection.  It wouldn't be her fault, not really.  Eventually, she'd begin to trust that Shepard is genuine, and that she doesn't need to be constantly reinforced in the relationship, and she'll calm down. 

But for Shepard, well, he'd better be working on hard on his Zen Master achievement, cos he's gonna need it.

As for Jacob and Miranda possibly returning, I remember being told several times that Bioware intended for those characters to be popular, but it didn't turn out that way.   Jacob, while a good guy, is an unremarkable character, especially compared to other characters.  It makes me a little concerned that Bioware would think that they could make a popular character out of a character who is unremarkable.

Sometimes you can.  I can't think of any right off, but I'm fairly certain it's not impossible.  They took a character almost designed to be as unpopular as possible, and her popularity grows all the time.  That's gotta say something about some of the folks running the joint.

[Errationatus]

Pacifien wrote...

I do have to say I like my stompy boots. I fear no snakes when stomping across the countryside in my stompy boots.
Makes me wonder if Jack has a characteristic stomp. One where you can tell the person entering the room is Jack based solely on the sound/feel of the walk.

In those frigging ass-whuppas, she couldn't not have a distinct stomp.  They have to be a least a third of her weight as it is.

[Errationatus]

Epantiras wrote...

JakeMacDon, I just wanted to say that your post is Internet GOLD

Most kind, Epantrias.  Thank you. 

If this doesn't happen in ME3, I won't buy it (that was a joke).

So, I think, was Kelly.  As comedy relief went... well, it should have kept going and closed the door behind it.

Also, I'm quite sure that Shepard will have a chance to have a super heroic death ™ or just walk away in the sunset. That's what they did with the Warden in DAO, and DAO is just the first game of the franchise while we *know* ME3 is the last game to feature Shepard. I'll miss her... sigh!

Naw.  Fanfiction forevah!  You can read about derring-do and unbreachable love with interesting spelling choices and no commas for a long time to come.  Why Tali's wedding alone will form an entire subgenre that will doubtless outlast human civilization.  Imagine:

*1000 years... after people*
"Even though the America that once thrived in the time of humans is no more, several cities remain standing due to the underpining of the millions upon millions of burnt CDs holding endless tales about the mythic goddess TaliZorba LaksNormalcy.  The several thousand servers used to house the religious archives of this curious cult continue to be home to millions of small animals, most well-fed on the sugary goodness emanating from the still warm machines."

As to the heroic death/sunset thingy?  I think that's a given.  Bioware also states that ME3 will be darker, so expect mucho tragical muerte on many characters behalfs.

Then Bioware will turn Mass Effect into a multiplayer FPS and I'll stop buying their games :innocent:

Why bother with that when they can turn it into a really terrible movie franchise? 

I *know* they're reading what we write here... and by saying they, I mean the Biodudes and their all-seeing-eyes. I *know* they *know* we want our characters back. They know we'll buy ME3 because we're their loyal customers. But they also know that we'll riot if we won't get what we want and if they won't give us something equally awesome back. Please don't disappoint us. Puuuleeeaasee! With sugar on top.

It's all about the moola, kid.  They want it, we have it.  They have a chance to make one of the best game trils of all time.  Many fans will be pissed and whine because you can't please nobody. 

All I ask is that they don't pvssy out and go lowest common denom on us.

But... I liked ]JakeMacDon's idea of Samara "arriving just as you need her", maybe it's a bit deus-ex-machina, but it could be a good way to introduce "old characters" into ME3. Some may stay afterwards for the whole game, some may leave and "support Shepard behind the curtain".

It's a tried-and-true story convention and if the character rocked, everyone gets a "Yaaaay!" out of it.  Hell, it could just as easily happen to Jack, with the sudden appearance of the massive Terminus Pirate Hoard, led by the Queen in all her Tattooed Glory.

To keep this post Jack-related, the Jack comic will definitely be finished within the end of November

As we used to say, back in the day:  "Fvck'n A!"

Modifié par JakeMacDon, 31 octobre 2010 - 07:32 .

[Barrendall]

JakeMacDon wrote...

Naw.  Fanfiction forevah!  You can read about derring-do and unbreachable love with interesting spelling choices and no commas for a long time to come.  Why Tali's wedding alone will form an entire subgenre that will doubtless outlast human civilization.  Imagine:

*1000 years... after people*
"Even though the America that once thrived in the time of humans is no more, several cities remain standing due to the underpining of the millions upon millions of burnt CDs holding endless tales about the mythic goddess TaliZorba LaksNormalcy.  The several thousand servers used to house the religious archives of this curious cult continue to be home to millions of small animals, most well-fed on the sugary goodness emanating from the still warm machines."

I fell off my horse laughing when I read this!  Bravo 

[Errationatus]

Barrendall111 wrote...

I fell off my horse laughing when I read this!  Bravo 

Thanks!

Can I kill a thread or what?