I don't think Jack would have let Shepard into that room if she hated him/her. So perhaps that's her way of saying that she's coming around, you know?
There's definitely some significance there, but I don't think it's of any romantic kind.
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Posté 12 novembre 2010 - 07:11
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FenrisDeSolar wrote...
I don't think Jack would have let Shepard into that room if she hated him/her. So perhaps that's her way of saying that she's coming around, you know?
There's definitely some significance there, but I don't think it's of any romantic kind.
I'm not saying it has romantic significance. I'm saying that it seems like it has general significance to her character. As far as Jack's concerned, the only good things that ever happened to her during her time at Pragia was when she was left alone in that room, because at least she wasn't being operated on, or forced to fight other children. At least she was alone, with her only friends, the inanimate objects. Letting someone else walk in to that room might show us that there's something more to Jack than meets the eye.
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Posté 12 novembre 2010 - 07:36
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I wanted to say yes and no, but after pondering about it for a few, I would say definitely "yes". At first my thoughts were, "Sort of, after all she wanted to put the bomb in her room, therefore blowing up her "Safe memories" as well. But she didn't need Shepard in there while she did it. She could have kept her secrets and maintained her "Wall" around herself. So my opinion has changed.yorkj86 wrote...
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I think the significance lies in her openness about her emotions for those inanimate objects at the time she was incarcerated. I enjoyed how the writers did the reminiscing scene in her bedroom. As hard as Cerberus tried to turn her into a weapon, they could not strip away her humanity. Damage it yes, but not destroy it. I don't know, in my mind blowing up the Teltin facility, although it was abandoned was her way of killing that proverbial monster in the closet.
Okay. But you don't think it's at all significant that she would let someone else walk in to that room? To me, it seems revealing. It really was the only safe place she had at Pragia, and that's not saying much.
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Posté 12 novembre 2010 - 09:24
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yorkj86 wrote...
I'm not saying it has romantic significance. I'm saying that it seems like it has general significance to her character. As far as Jack's concerned, the only good things that ever happened to her during her time at Pragia was when she was left alone in that room, because at least she wasn't being operated on, or forced to fight other children. At least she was alone, with her only friends, the inanimate objects. Letting someone else walk in to that room might show us that there's something more to Jack than meets the eye.
I kinda got that, but I like driving it home just how much I dislike her romance build-up and that.
In my opinion, when she blew that facility up, she was finally letting go of the childhood she never really had. It's possible she felt weak there, and just needed support. Even if she didn't really trust Shepard.
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Posté 12 novembre 2010 - 11:09
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Well, 'cleaning house' for ME3 (or getting the saves sorted out, ready for import) and this one I've been going through so far is the one with Jack being woo'ed. Or romanced. Or whatever'd. Anyways, I talked to her every oppertunity, so I got the 'go away, thinking' line quite early. (Did Kasumi and Zaeed's missions before Horizon and did Grunt/Mordin/Jacbo's before the ship, so still got Thane and Samra to recruit and Tali's flotilla malarkey to go).
Anyway, it occurred to me after I heard it that it makes quite alot of sense for Jack. While garrus with his calibrations and so on doesn't make that much sense before/after the Omega mission, at least Jack's makes sense for before Omega.
Anyway, it occurred to me after I heard it that it makes quite alot of sense for Jack. While garrus with his calibrations and so on doesn't make that much sense before/after the Omega mission, at least Jack's makes sense for before Omega.
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Posté 12 novembre 2010 - 11:19
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Of all the characters, save for maybe Thane, Jack has the greatest reason to shut the player out. She has a lot to think about and a lot to reflect upon. It's understandable why she would distance herself, especially before the Omega-4 run.
Garrus, on the other hand, should be reminiscing up a storm with Shepard. That's why the "Calibrations" stonewall sucks so damn much.
EDIT: Ah, well, yeah, Garrus has the extra line for his romance, but I meant before then, when you're just trying to talk to him, even if you're not romancing him. Jack, on the other hand, will remain a private person, even apart from the romance.
Garrus, on the other hand, should be reminiscing up a storm with Shepard. That's why the "Calibrations" stonewall sucks so damn much.
EDIT: Ah, well, yeah, Garrus has the extra line for his romance, but I meant before then, when you're just trying to talk to him, even if you're not romancing him. Jack, on the other hand, will remain a private person, even apart from the romance.
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Posté 12 novembre 2010 - 11:21
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Edit: Screw what I said, makes no sense anymore.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 02:43
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Followup, Re: The Jack Loyalty Mission End Cut Off Bug.
I rolled back a couple of saves, trying to figure it out, and apparently the trigger (in my case) was doing a loyalty mission before hers. I tried rolling back to the save that worked (which was before I did any loyalty missions) and did a loyalty mission then Jack's mission immediately afterward, and the bug came back. Maybe jumping straight from the mission trigger dialogue to the mission proper would work, but I'm not sure on that one. Sidequests don't seem to affect it.
So... yeah. In case anyone else ever has that problem, maybe try that.
I rolled back a couple of saves, trying to figure it out, and apparently the trigger (in my case) was doing a loyalty mission before hers. I tried rolling back to the save that worked (which was before I did any loyalty missions) and did a loyalty mission then Jack's mission immediately afterward, and the bug came back. Maybe jumping straight from the mission trigger dialogue to the mission proper would work, but I'm not sure on that one. Sidequests don't seem to affect it.
So... yeah. In case anyone else ever has that problem, maybe try that.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 02:56
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Why is she in her underpants?yorkj86 wrote...
Here's a comic where, among other things, Jack gives FemShep a bloody nose for trying to talk her up. It's pretty funny
I dunno. I asked the artist the same question. She's wild and crazy Jack?
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 03:05
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I love Jack's character, but isn't Jack (almost) always wild and crazy Jack?yorkj86 wrote...
She's wild and crazy Jack?
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 02:49
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If she does, they're very low cut; someone did a texmod that removed her tattoos, and it was discovered two things:
1. Jack is riddled with surgical scars (that stripe running down her back? Yup. Scar. Use that as a reference and off you go...)
2. Jack has ass cleavage.
Anyway, done with my (second) soldier runthrough, now for my adept (and by extension Garrus) to get some love.![=]](https://lvlt.forum.bioware.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideways.png)
1. Jack is riddled with surgical scars (that stripe running down her back? Yup. Scar. Use that as a reference and off you go...)
2. Jack has ass cleavage.
Anyway, done with my (second) soldier runthrough, now for my adept (and by extension Garrus) to get some love.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 03:07
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GodWood wrote...
Why is she in her underpants?
Perhaps she sleeps in 'em. :|
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 03:20
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Here's the first part of the 8 pages long fan comic I've been working on in the last 6 months!
The next 4 pages will be uploaded tomorrow.
Script by the awesome Mondo47, art by me.
Click on the thumbnails:
The next 4 pages will be uploaded tomorrow.
Script by the awesome Mondo47, art by me.
Click on the thumbnails:
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 03:28
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Epantiras wrote...
Here's the first part of the 8 pages long fan comic I've been working on in the last 6 months!
The next 4 pages will be uploaded tomorrow.
Script by the awesome Mondo47, art by me.
Click on the thumbnails:
*awesome snips*
:crying:. Beautiful artwork and writing though. I take it this will follow Mondo's 'candy' fanfic?
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 03:33
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omg omg I'm reading at the speed of light
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 03:57
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oh wow I've been looking forward to this more than the dlc.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 04:03
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Oh, man, this is incredible, The detail in the illustrations, and basing the story upon Mondo's "Candy" back-ground for Jack...this is going to be so upsetting. I'll enjoy it, nevertheless.
I love that the Jack fanbase has this much dedication to its own members. It's a process of appreciation of her character that feeds itself.
You've both really outdone yourselves.
I'm looking forward to reading more!
I love that the Jack fanbase has this much dedication to its own members. It's a process of appreciation of her character that feeds itself.
You've both really outdone yourselves.
I'm looking forward to reading more!
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 04:08
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Wow... o_O Does anyone have a link to Mondo's story? I've not read it, but maaaan, do I want to now!! O_O
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 04:09
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I think an important thing to remember about any epilogues for Jack is that her lifespan is quite limited; her biotics are destroying her brain, or something.
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Xilizhra wrote...
I think an important thing to remember about any epilogues for Jack is that her lifespan is quite limited; her biotics are destroying her brain, or something.
We don't really know how the neural degeneration will affect her, though. For Kaidan, it only gives him headaches. Jack's biotics are causing her neural degeneration, but all human biotics experience neural degeneration, because, quite simply, humans aren't meant to be biotics. However, Jack is unique because, as her neural degeneration progresses, her powers are becoming stronger, and not weaker, which might imply that she will become more powerful, but more unstable, as she gets older.
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@FenrisDeSolar: Here you go.
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Posté 13 novembre 2010 - 04:46
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Ahhh... now this is a good feeling to have. Going full circle 
I should point out that as much as Epants likes to call me amazing, she's much more awesome. Her art made this little project as grand as I at least think it is
Yeah, there is a reference to the ugly little story in Candy here, but as to where it fits in my story chronology, you'll see come the conclusion. It's kinda obvious
As for Jack's biotics and shortened life expectancy, it's still only supposition insofar as far as her lifespan. The neural degeneration that is mentioned is a side effect all human biotics suffer - it doesn't mention anywhere in the backstory material for the universe that said neural degeneration is fatal, though we can safely assume it can't be all punch and cookies (we know that the side effects of biotic enhancement in humans ranges from migraines to brain cancer). The main effect we know of is that biotic ability weakens over time because of it. In Jack though, the opposite is true - her power is increasing despite the neural degeneration.
EDIT: Ah, and there's York - we both got it in now
I should point out that as much as Epants likes to call me amazing, she's much more awesome. Her art made this little project as grand as I at least think it is
Yeah, there is a reference to the ugly little story in Candy here, but as to where it fits in my story chronology, you'll see come the conclusion. It's kinda obvious
As for Jack's biotics and shortened life expectancy, it's still only supposition insofar as far as her lifespan. The neural degeneration that is mentioned is a side effect all human biotics suffer - it doesn't mention anywhere in the backstory material for the universe that said neural degeneration is fatal, though we can safely assume it can't be all punch and cookies (we know that the side effects of biotic enhancement in humans ranges from migraines to brain cancer). The main effect we know of is that biotic ability weakens over time because of it. In Jack though, the opposite is true - her power is increasing despite the neural degeneration.
EDIT: Ah, and there's York - we both got it in now
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