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[adriano_c]

lol@the idea that she gave herself a y-incision...

[royceclemens]

yorkj86 wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

Speaking of which, I was bumming around TV Tropes a couple of days ago (and when I say "bumming around," I mean "caught in a morass of useless trivia for hours on end"), when I entered upon the entry for "Good Scars, Evil Scars."  Opened up the Video Game Examples folder, scrolled through and found ME.  In between Zaeed's gunshot wound and the scars Kaidan has that you need a microscope to see, I found this little gem...

"Jack also has some scars mixed in along with the tattoos. They're probably self-inflicted."

I don't want to get an account there, so I can't correct the apocalyptically stupid little mutant who would write such garbage.  I guess it's a lost opportunity.

That's silly, although, it did make me stop to think about whether or not Jack might have ever been a cutter. 

I wouldn't imagine so.  I have little experience with the phenomenon, but it's my understanding the people cut because they want to feel some other emotion than crippling depression.  They want to feel alive, in other words.

Of all the problems Jack has, I don't think that's one of them.  All the stuff Jack does stems from her anger, not her depression.  At least that's how I see it.

[adriano_c]

For reference, said scars...

[axl99]

Yep. Those aren't humanly possible scars. You can't cut yourself and expect the scars to look that neat, even if you have double jointed hands to cut yourself in normally inaccessible areas like THE WHOLE SPINAL CHORD.

[Captain Iglo]

they look to me like surgical scars... probably from either Cerberus or some "scientists" who kept her captured.

[adriano_c]

axl99 wrote...

Yep. Those aren't humanly possible scars. You can't cut yourself and expect the scars to look that neat, even if you have double jointed hands to cut yourself in normally inaccessible areas like THE WHOLE SPINAL CHORD.

Self-mutilation in c minor?

[LordHelfort]

Begs the question of who did have such steady medical hands to do those little cuts

[Epantiras]

royceclemens wrote...

"Jack also has some scars mixed in along with the tattoos. They're probably self-inflicted."

I don't want to get an account there, so I can't correct the apocalyptically stupid little mutant who would write such garbage.  I guess it's a lost opportunity.

"Haters gonna hate" (Book of Jack, 23:18)

Because teenagers think that people who cut themselves are cool/emo, therefore EVERY scar you see is self-inflicted.

yorkj86 wrote...

LordHelfort wrote...

Begs the question of who did have such steady medical hands to do those little cuts

Probably
some surgical machine.  Maybe something as fancy as the autodoc we see
cutting up Shepard in the reconstruction cinematic.

Agrees :-)

[AntiChri5]

........

~sigh~

Seriously, she says that she was tortured. She was pitted against other children in brutal fights. She escaped and, after being abused, lived a violent criminal lifestyle.



Someone looks at that and thinks her scars are self inflicted? Really? The torture victim who is always in fights. How could she possiblyget scars. "Hurpaderp! Must be a cutter!"

[BobbyTheI]

As an occasional TV Tropes editor, I went ahead and adjusted the obvious error, using the image we had here for evidence.  Edited version:

Jack also has some scars mixed in along with the tattoos. From the precision and locations◊, they appear to be surgical scars from her time at the Teltin facility.

If anyone else sees any other issues to be fixed, consider me your Jack Single Issue Wonk on the subject and I'll deal with it.

[AntiChri5]

I want to know the story about the small scar on Jack's upper lip.

Looks like the result of a hard blow to the face. Maybe in the arena they set up at Teltin? Or afterwards, when she was abused by the crew of the frieghter. Or..............

[Barrendall]

yorkj86 wrote...

I want to know the story about the small scar on Jack's upper lip.  I don't think that she got it at Teltin.  Why would that area be medically important?

Hmm...could be a fanfic in the making at the very least.  Mondo and Ep?  

[Epantiras]

yorkj86 wrote...

I want to know the story about the small scar on Jack's upper lip.  I don't think that she got it at Teltin.  Why would that area be medically important?

That scar definitely looks like the result of a fight. Could have been a punch in her face which split her lip, or maybe a knife cut.

Ahhh now I imagine Jack telling the story of that scar... in Joker style ;-)





Oh, and I'm glad to see you here on the thread, Bobby!!

Modifié par Epantiras, 04 décembre 2010 - 05:55 .

[royceclemens]

BobbyTheI wrote...

As an occasional TV Tropes editor, I went ahead and adjusted the obvious error, using the image we had here for evidence.  Edited version:

Jack also has some scars mixed in along with the tattoos. From the precision and locations◊, they appear to be surgical scars from her time at the Teltin facility.

If anyone else sees any other issues to be fixed, consider me your Jack Single Issue Wonk on the subject and I'll deal with it.

And we promise to use this power only for good.

And it's good to have you back, man.

[axl99]

Epantiras wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

I want to know the story about the small scar on Jack's upper lip.  I don't think that she got it at Teltin.  Why would that area be medically important?

That scar definitely looks like the result of a fight. Could have been a punch in her face which split her lip, or maybe a knife cut.

Ahhh now I imagine Jack telling the story of that scar... in Joker style ;-)





Oh, and I'm glad to see you here on the thread, Bobby!!

LOL but if Jack were to do it, then that's like a given. But if Mordin or Chakwas were to go into great depth about her scars and implants. I'd imagine it'd be an ethical debate of great proportions.

[LordHelfort]

Well Chakwas is grandmotherly. Plus one would assume she can tell the difference, though I doubt she would ever allow herself to put out for an operation.

[Loki330]

Also, depending on her interactions with Shepard, she might be willing to try Chakwas-I don't see her trusting the Doc first time, but paragon romanced, I could see her willing to at least give her a chance to prove herself; after all, Shepard trusts her.



It might be more straightforward than that however-Chakwas joined to be with Shepard and Joker, not Cerberus.

[Urdaniel]

yorkj86 wrote...

Loki330 wrote...

Also, depending on her interactions with Shepard, she might be willing to try Chakwas-I don't see her trusting the Doc first time, but paragon romanced, I could see her willing to at least give her a chance to prove herself; after all, Shepard trusts her.

It might be more straightforward than that however-Chakwas joined to be with Shepard and Joker, not Cerberus.

I think she'd forever be suspicious of medical officials.  We let ourselves become very vulnerable when we let a doctor jab us with a needle, or put us under for surgery.  Jack doesn't cope well with the feeling of vulnerability.  Also, she'd probably, on the inside, be terrified of being put under for surgery.  Even with Shepard's reassurance, even with Shepard looking on, something perhaps inconsequential in the back of her mind would be screaming at her, that it's a trap.

This is why I think Shepard would have a hell of a time convincing Jack to undergo surgery for her "neural degeneration", if she should be close to Shepard.  For her, it would be a nightmare, having to reconcile her own doubts and fears, with the trust she places in Shepard.

The basic problem I see here is that Shep isn't the doctor.  Jack can trust him implicitly, but how can either of them be completely certain of any doctor, even Chakwas and/or Mordin?  Obviously this would be a bigger problem from Jack's perspective than Shepard's, but the concern is still there, even if not entirely logical/rational/valid.