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[Loki330]

I doubt Timmah is her father-I don't think it for a second-however you raise an interesting point that he's got to keep his 'shareholders' happy. One thing that always stuck in my mind is how (LOTSB spoilers again) Hackett quite literally gives a flat 'No.' to the alliance guys wanting to arrest and interrogate you for at least 3-4 months about cerberus. For my engineer it could interpreted that Hackett trusts Shepard after ME1 (Full blow paragon, and barring torfan bonus no renegade iircc) after everything she's done, or at least is willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.



However, I still wonder why he gives such a brutal denial. EDI mentions that Cerberus seems to get a reliable income of several million (billion?) creds a year. Some of that is through front companies, but alot will be from 'shareholders' too.

[Errationatus]

Loki330 wrote...

I doubt Timmah is her father-I don't think it for a second-however you raise an interesting point that he's got to keep his 'shareholders' happy. One thing that always stuck in my mind is how (LOTSB spoilers again) Hackett quite literally gives a flat 'No.' to the alliance guys wanting to arrest and interrogate you for at least 3-4 months about cerberus. For my engineer it could interpreted that Hackett trusts Shepard after ME1 (Full blow paragon, and barring torfan bonus no renegade iircc) after everything she's done, or at least is willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

However, I still wonder why he gives such a brutal denial. EDI mentions that Cerberus seems to get a reliable income of several million (billion?) creds a year. Some of that is through front companies, but alot will be from 'shareholders' too.

Personally, I'm hoping that the writers at Bioware are doing what they could be doing - which would be a subtle piece of work indeed - and using Cerberus - and Shepard's association with it in ME2, as a kind of test for players and their attitudes.  IF this is what they're doing, I would even gain more respect for Miranda's character, as she would go from the conscienceless T&A stuffed in a catsuit to a chess piece - and a bit of misdirection - in a rather clever game the Bioware writers could be playing with us.

Cerberus would go from a rather stupid and haphazard organization to a Machievellian piece of work that would make TIM a villainous wunderkund - and not the lame jackoff he currently appears to be - IF all the failures and atrocities could be shown to have been designed that way, after a fashion.

Jack would then not be a failure on Cerberus' part, and there could now be far more powerful - and stable - Jacks out there in the wings waiting for their call to begin... whatever.

The resurrection of Shepard becomes just another grand piece in a bigger game (possibly derailed by Shepard and Miranda's 'defection' - which is not guaranteed either, if this theory is even remotely true) of which acquiring Reaper tech may only be another step. 

Human dominance?  Human galactic rule?  Is TIM another kind of Saren, thinking he's pursuing the only real path against the Reapers - aiming for some technological edge that, if not capable of out-and-out defeat, creates a kind of parity - that 'beyond' he mentions to Shepard at the end of the game?

It would be seriously cool if the Biowriters were actually going this way.

Do I actually think they are?

No.

Given that three-fourths of the threads on this board are about booty, hair and the various lack/proportions of/, a fourth for Tali, and the rest for trolls, I can't see them wasting that kind of effort for the fifty or so people who would actually appreciate it.

Pity, really, but the nice thing about this kind of game is that we are allowed to pretend, and we can make it as clever or as shallow as we like.

[Epantiras]

yorkj86 wrote...

I'd rather Cerberus turn out to be useless, because I am so tired of Bioware pushing the "Human Master Race" agenda.  Too much progress by humanity in too little time, especially by Cerberus, pushes my suspension of disbelief far too far, not that it wasn't already dangerously teetering on the edge.

Unless the "too much progress in too little time" is part of a PLAN! I remember reading in the 1st Mass Effect novel that some speculated that the Prothean ruins on Mars have been found decades or centuries before they were actually revealed to the mass media, a proof of it is the fact that scientists were able to decypher them too quickly.

Yeah, I guess that saying "it's part of the PLAN" is the best way to create suspance and cover plot holes ;-)

[SlottsMachine]

yorkj86 wrote...

I'd rather Cerberus turn out to be useless, because I am so tired of Bioware pushing the "Human Master Race" agenda.  Too much progress by humanity in too little time, especially by Cerberus, pushes my suspension of disbelief far too far, not that it wasn't already dangerously teetering on the edge.

I didn't come up with it, but I subscribe to the theory that humanity descended from the protheans in some fashion, we already know they meddled with the hanar. I thinks its the best band aid we can hope for to cover up the whole humanity is super thing. In regards to Cerberus, have they really made that many advancements outside of humanity as a whole, to me they seem pretty inept as it is.  

Modifié par GeneralSlotts193, 26 janvier 2011 - 03:39 .

[GodWood]

Stumbled across this Jack/Thane fan art.

An odd pairing I must say.

[Gethforceone]

GodWood wrote...

Stumbled across this Jack/Thane fan art.
An odd pairing I must say.

Can not unsee that.

[axl99]

Ah yes. That one was based off this fanfiction of Jack and Thane called "Rock Steady". Author came by here quite some time ago to ask for some help with the ending. Not too bad.

[AntiChri5]

I was never expecting to enjoy a Jack/Thane ship, but the author did a pretty good job.

[StefanBW]

Hell, at least it's not Grunt. Or Kelly.

Edit: Also, the artwork is nicely done. 

Modifié par stefanbw, 26 janvier 2011 - 04:23 .

[Mondo47]

axl99 wrote...

Ah yes. That one was based off this fanfiction of Jack and Thane called "Rock Steady". Author came by here quite some time ago to ask for some help with the ending. Not too bad.

It was a nice read, and it did have me convinced it'd work, but there was that little part of me nagging all the time like some impatient child in a theme park waiting line "Would Jack really get involved with someone so openly shipping out in less than a year?"
Part of me thinks it'd be a bridge too far for her feelings, but hey, never stopped it being an enjoyable read. Nice pic too.

[Batlass8]

I don't know, but I just can't see Jack with Thane. He's too...serious? Does that make sense? I think Jack needs someone with a certain amount of flexibility, a willingness not to take everything she says at face value. Although Thane certainly is patient. He's also way too old for Jack.



*But if anyone has the link for that fic, I'll give it a read.

[Epantiras]

Batlass8 wrote...

I don't know, but I just can't see Jack with Thane. He's too...serious? Does that make sense? I think Jack needs someone with a certain amount of flexibility, a willingness not to take everything she says at face value. Although Thane certainly is patient. He's also way too old for Jack.

*But if anyone has the link for that fic, I'll give it a read.

I agree. And don't forget that Jack has destroyed the moon of Thane's hanar masters

[axl99]

But it was an accident!

... With a turian spacestation she blew up for setting another home on fire.

Oh well, I'm pretty sure they added that to her charges regardless. That gets her what? An extra few decades in the freezer?

Modifié par axl99, 26 janvier 2011 - 11:30 .

[Batlass8]

@Epantiras: Ooh, I forgot about that. And Thane is touchy about the hanar. So...I guess that relationship was doomed right out of the gate.

[Batlass8]

Sweet Mother Mary on horseback! You know what is missing from this page?







THIS.

[SlottsMachine]

keep em' coming

[Jarek_Cousland]

Somebody should make a gif of her pwnage in the Shadow broker vid.

Modifié par Jarek_Cousland, 27 janvier 2011 - 03:11 .

[Batlass8]

Jarek_Cousland wrote...

Somebody should make a gif of her pwnage in the Shadow broker vid.

Of what do you speak?

Edit: New page?  New Jack pic! 

Modifié par Batlass8, 27 janvier 2011 - 03:23 .

[Batlass8]

yorkj86 wrote...

Batlass8 wrote...

Jarek_Cousland wrote...

Somebody should make a gif of her pwnage in the Shadow broker vid.

Of what do you speak?

Jack's acrobatic biotic kickassery.

Was there something specific in the playthrough?  I don't think I've ever taken her all the way through LotSB...