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[LiquidGrape]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Doubt anyone here will.

I think you'll be surprised.



Credit goes to Mondo for introducing this gem to the thread.

And honestly, I'd think most people would agree that their dynamic could be twisted a bit to fall into that.
It's a fun thought, so why not?

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 30 janvier 2011 - 10:29 .

[axl99]

Ah well. The motivational was in jest, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered.

[Xilizhra]

I could possibly encourage this in one of my stories if I ever write one...



It'd be fun, I think, to watch Kelly squeeing over it.

[Xilizhra]

Or possibly a new idea.



Jack/Kelly.



Is it possible?

[AntiChri5]

I love the Jack/Miranda concept, Xil.

[Mondo47]

Epants, as usual, you're a genius!

As for Jack/Kelly... no. Just cannot see it myself. Kelly is way too meek and mild, and would almost certainly pry into aspects of Jack she would be unwilling to share. I see poor little Kelly pulling her headshrinker routine on Jack once too often and getting the back of her head bumped up against the wall.

[axl99]

*mind falls into gutter*

Thanks Mondo.

Modifié par axl99, 31 janvier 2011 - 01:58 .

[Xilizhra]

Mondo47 wrote...

Epants, as usual, you're a genius!
As for Jack/Kelly... no. Just cannot see it myself. Kelly is way too meek and mild, and would almost certainly pry into aspects of Jack she would be unwilling to share. I see poor little Kelly pulling her headshrinker routine on Jack once too often and getting the back of her head bumped up against the wall.

I don't know if I'd call Kelly "meek." She's not a trained fighter, but she's quite extroverted and she doesn't strike me as the type who'd pry somewhere if she was unwelcome. Shepard can shut down her advances quite fast and she'll stay at a distance.
I do see her as finding Jack to be interesting, and try very delicately to reach her. She'd need to subdue some of her cheerfulness, though.

[Batlass8]

I can't see Jack being even remotely interested in Kelly. Even if Kelly suddenly became a princess made of chocolate, or something equally improbable yet alluring. Their personalities don't mesh. I can see them (in some alternate universe pulled directly from a John Hughes' movie) being unlikely best friends in high school. You know, those two kids who seemed to hate each other, had nothing in common and were inseparable?

[Errationatus]

Epantiras wrote...

JakeMacDon wrote...

*SNIP'd*

I love the way you've described it! And I agree that it would be the kind of relationship I'd expect between Jack and Shepard.

Thank you, Epantrias.  Your cartoon of "Cuddle Horrors" is cuter'n'all get-out.  I can never do cute.  It always ends up kinda... bloody.

Can't explain it.

[Xilizhra]

Batlass8 wrote...

I can't see Jack being even remotely interested in Kelly. Even if Kelly suddenly became a princess made of chocolate, or something equally improbable yet alluring. Their personalities don't mesh. I can see them (in some alternate universe pulled directly from a John Hughes' movie) being unlikely best friends in high school. You know, those two kids who seemed to hate each other, had nothing in common and were inseparable?

Really? If there's anyone who gives off an aura of not wanting anything, and only wanting to enjoy others' company regardless of their background, it's Kelly.

[Batlass8]

Xilizhra wrote...

Batlass8 wrote...

I can't see Jack being even remotely interested in Kelly. Even if Kelly suddenly became a princess made of chocolate, or something equally improbable yet alluring. Their personalities don't mesh. I can see them (in some alternate universe pulled directly from a John Hughes' movie) being unlikely best friends in high school. You know, those two kids who seemed to hate each other, had nothing in common and were inseparable?

Really? If there's anyone who gives off an aura of not wanting anything, and only wanting to enjoy others' company regardless of their background, it's Kelly.

Be that as it may, I feel like Kelly's accepting nature isn't 'exclusive' enough to make Jack feel that she's sincere.  Doese that make any sense?  Kelly likes pretty much everyone; she has a lot of empathy for others.  I think Jack would see Kelly's advances as no more than an extension of her general demeanor, and would doubt that it merited being taken seriously.  Add to this the fact that Kelly's got a background in psychology, and I think Jack might even be hostile.  "I see through your 'Little Miss Sunshine' act.  It's not for real, you're just trying to get into my head."

Had they known each other at a younger age, maybe grown up together, I can see them being good friends though.

[Xilizhra]

So Jack would only ever be interested in someone who was interested in her specifically?

[Epantiras]

Kelly is CERBERUS. Jack will never forget that. So shouldn't we ;-)

[Loki330]

Batlass8 wrote...


Be that as it may, I feel like Kelly's accepting nature isn't 'exclusive' enough to make Jack feel that she's sincere.  Doese that make any sense?  Kelly likes pretty much everyone; she has a lot of empathy for others.  I think Jack would see Kelly's advances as no more than an extension of her general demeanor, and would doubt that it merited being taken seriously.  Add to this the fact that Kelly's got a background in psychology, and I think Jack might even be hostile.  "I see through your 'Little Miss Sunshine' act.  It's not for real, you're just trying to get into my head."

Had they known each other at a younger age, maybe grown up together, I can see them being good friends though.

You can (depending on your playthrough obviously) swap 'Shepard' for 'Kelly' in that, yet Jack can open up to him (and her, to an extent). Not saying you're wrong, just pointing out the similarity.

[GodWood]

Epantiras wrote...
I could not get that image out of my head, so here it is (click on the thumbnail):

JakeMacDon wrote...
I can see any long term relationship with Jack being more like having adopted a stray cat.  The cat will eventually love you - and only you, as cats are very particular - as a rule - but of course, that love is utterly on its own terms.

But, it yet won't stop the cat from coming and going as it pleases, and sometimes you wonder if it's coming back at all.  Eventually the cat returns, pretty much with the attitude as if it never left, with a chunk out of its ear, and no explanations.

Even if the cat has been with you for years, and someone asks, "Is that your cat?", you can only ever answer, truthfully - "Yeah... kinda, I guess."

Patience is the key, for anything long term.  Without it, all the love in the world won't mean squat.

EDIT:  My rather odd love of commas.

And I do quite like this analogy because it reminds me of a cat I once had.

[Urdaniel]

Xilizhra wrote...

So Jack would only ever be interested in someone who was interested in her specifically?

In a word: yes.  In my opinion, anyway, which isn't worth all that much. 

My thinking is that Jack's trust issues, past history, etc. would mean that she's not going to invest herself in any way, shape, or form in someone (male, female, monogendered, what-have-you) who isn't willing to invest themselves in her.  And invest all the way - not just meet her halfway.  They have to open up, make themselves vulnerable, certainly more so than Jack herself (until perhaps the very last second before she decides to take the plunge).  Otherwise, they're just out to exploit or hurt her.

I doubt she'd let herself even get a secret crush on someone, let alone allow it to develop into full-blown unrequited feelings of any sort.  That would make her weak, make her vulnerable.  And she flat-out hates feeling that way.

Two cents donated.  Sorry it isn't more coherent and profound. 

[SlottsMachine]

Mondo47 wrote...

Marriage...

I'll plead Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell there; there's absolutely no reason whatsoever to get hitched to stay with someone for the long haul, have kids, or do any of the other things society expects of married folk.

In all seriousness, considering Jack's constantly-adrift lifestyle and Shepard's long military career, there's a chance both of them would never really entertain the idea of marriage for a long time - at least until maybe Shep retired for good and Jack was sure that what they had was stable enough. They both understand the transitory nature of life all too well, so I can see them both being rather cynical or ambivalent about it.

Besides, going back to my last musings on the 22nd century, marriage might be considered terribly blase, old-hat or for inter-species relationships completely inappropriate. It could well have been replaced by bonding agreements that work like prenups, procreation contracts more akin to something a salarian would sign up to, state shotgun-weddings (and attendant chemical sterilisation) for breaking birth regulations... endless possibilities for making saying "I do" very different. I can see Shep and Jack just silently, unceremoniously knowing what they were if such a time came. Nothing would change, maybe nothing would be said, they'd just keep on going the way they were.

Though considering that they have friends and coleagues, they might be the ones to feist some kind of civil ceremony on them just to "make it official" and be an excuse for a party... I now have amusing visions of Shep getting dragged on the krogan equivalent of a stag-do (probably the invasion of a small country crossed with a pub crawl) and Jack and Miranda starting an all-out biotic showdown in a bridal shop over the cheerleader's attempts to turn Jack into a dressup doll (while Tali rolls her eyes and drinks all the complementary champagne).

I agree with basically everything you've just said, but I'd like to throw my small town/hick perspective into the mix. As much as I'd like my Shep to do the whole marriage thing, I think sometimes we forget what her life has been like up till now. Samara has the line, "I'm a ruined vessel of sorrow and regret, but I am free," and I think this works well for Jack too. I mean the girl has been in prison's her whole life, whether that be an actual prison or a prison of her own mind, she's just now finally free of all that. I have this image of Jack on Illium or somewhere, at a moment when she is alone, looking up at the sky, pumping her fist, cracking a smile, "I'm free, I'm finally free...... now what."
Marriage even by contemporary standards seems out of the question, just because she need's to do some living for herself, and lot's of it. Maybe when the gap between years of freedom start to close in on all the years she survived without, maybe then she might marry Shep, if he's even in the picture at that point, personally I've always had them pegged as star-crossed lovers. 

[Xilizhra]

Well, checking on the other crack Jack pairing (hah), what do most of the people here actually think about Jack/Mirand?

[SlottsMachine]

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, checking on the other crack Jack pairing (hah), what do most of the people here actually think about Jack/Mirand?

Where not talking about the B-word are we, just how we feel they would act around each other, or would you like are general opinion of Miranda.

[Xilizhra]

No, I'm actually wondering if anyone thinks the pairing could ever work.

[SlottsMachine]

but did she really quit, mooowaahaaa

[SlottsMachine]

I while back, like many months ago, some posters here were trying to get in touch with Courtney Taylor, did anything come of that? The reason I ask is I was curios if she gets hate mail for her role as Jack. Since apparently Kimberly Brooks has seen her share, and Ashley is similar to Jack in a polarizing/hate inspiring way.