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[LiquidGrape]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

As for Jack's poem? I didn't like it either, I don't think it suited her personality to submit a poem to a public domain for everyone to see. I didn't think she would want people seeing into her private feelings, anonymously sent or not.

I think very few of us are so self-assured we don't want to seek acceptance in someone or something else. Jack, if anyone, seems likely to want it.

[Shadow_Soul]

Wanted to show support for Jack in ME3. I really like her, just a great character.

[axl99]

http://www.physorg.c...117211150.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.physorg.com/news117211150.html

That article on the use of tattoos for the construction of a personal identity is a very interesting read.

So many people complain about Jack's tattoos that they don't even notice the surgical scars underneath them. I mean think about what Jack might feel about them as she looks at herself in the mirror. The scars won't ever go away, nor will those medical tattoos that were likely used to mark all the places to install implants and insert injections. Would you want to be constantly reminded that you were a labrat your whole life?

So Jack busted out of Teltin and killed her tormentors in the process. Cerberus puts a bounty on Jack. Miranda calls her on it, and Jack retorts with a threat. 

I'm not surprised by the reaction at all.

That would explain the tattoos, the constant life on the run, prison breaks, criminal records. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if certain crimes on Jack's rap sheet had been fabricated by Cerberus just so they can increase their chances of  getting her back.

Modifié par axl99, 05 février 2011 - 08:22 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I didn't know that Jack's tattooes covered surgical scars?

Tattooes are great for expressing personality. And Cerberus only wanted Jack because she was a super-powered anomoly in terms of human biotics. Selfish b******s...

And Jack doesn't strike me as one to want to find acceptance in others, but maybe I misread what you put?

[Loki330]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

I didn't know that Jack's tattooes covered surgical scars?

See that line along her spine? That's one of them. As I mentioned in another thread, once you know what to look for it's pretty horrific just how many (and how big the) scars she has are

[Mondo47]

I think Jack's poem is perfect for her. I mean, no-one picks up a pen and scribbles like a genius first time, every time. Philip Larkin wrote some classics, but he wrote a couple of self-indulgant stinkers too. What great poet doesn't? Also, most poets have a phase in their youth where they, to steal a metaphore from Henry Rollins (another great poet), dress in black, dye their hair black, paint their nails black, grab some black ink, some black paper and scribble manic poetry because they are "The King or Queen of Pain". Everyone has an introspective/depressive period in their youth (or at least pretty much everyone) and everyone has a rebellious and confrontational period, and as much as Jack has lived a life of wild experience, she's never had a childhood or awkward teenage phase. That all was stolen from her. So it's only natural that when she finds a place to stop for a while, she begins to experience all the things she's missed out on over the years; this explains the yearning for acceptance and approval, her moments of unfocussed and occasionally childish anger, and the way she relishes in reputation. While Jack is an adult, parts of her are still very much a child, and the poem is a perfect representation of the amalgam of facets to her personality... it's why I think she's not beyond childish practical jokes, goofing off instead of working, sulking and general displays of displeasure that suit someone ten years younger.

[Batlass8]

Posting this here, because not only does Jack get a lot of positive face-time in this video, there's also a bit where you can really see her scars (I think it's from one of the original trailers, but whatevs).



As for what type of music...I agree with axl. I think Jack might be a real secret music snob. And that she'd love the 1812 Overture, or a lot of Tchaikovsky's stuff with great percussion.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I love your explanation, really thought out. I feel better about Jack's poem now, at first I didn't like it.

And I just looked at a Jack screenie, and I can really see the scars. I can't believe I never saw them before, I just thought it was part of her tattooes. It just makes me appreciate her more as a character.

[zewuok]

Somehow I imagine Jack listening to Ella Fitzgerald, Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong etc. or something really weird (Elcor music, anyone?)

And another picture (sorry, just finished all-Jack playthrough so I have lots of these).

The lighting is bad, but I blame Fraps and its ****ty timing.

Modifié par zewuok, 05 février 2011 - 11:05 .

[adriano_c]

I think it's a good pic.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

She looks pretty sneaky there. Hehe.

I was listening to undisclosed desires by Muse, and that song reminded me of Jack for some reason.

[zewuok]

It's not bad, but a friction of second before the lighting was better I still have the savegame just before the SM, so maybe I'll try to capture it once more (and get a no-life achievement in the process ).

Modifié par zewuok, 05 février 2011 - 11:05 .

[adriano_c]

When it comes to taking screenshots I've gotten that achievement a number of times over again.

[axl99]

@ Zewuok: Can you try playing the Fraps file using Quicktime and then use the scrubber to find the exact frame you needed?

[zewuok]

I'm afraid it won't work- my Old Machine gets all weird while recording movies and freezes from time to time (just for a moment, but that's enough to mess with the video), so I stick to taking screenshots.

[Lord Zeuss]

I would be remiss if my new photomanip did not feature our favorite tattooed biotic. Hope you guys like: http://social.biowar...index/5943995/1

[Confused_Shepard]

yorkj86 wrote...

That's funny.  Now that I think about it, I doubt Jack would consider herself associated with any human organization, other than the human species. She probably wouldn't want anything to do with any nation, planet, or the Alliance, for that matter.

I could see her join the Spectres only because Shep would recommend her and that would be hell of an outlet for her frustrations. I'd imagine she would request Cerberus jobs.  All that rage focussed into a positive force could be quite useful. 

The only problem is that to everyone she would seem undiciplined and psychotic unless she puts on a metaphorical mask in public and is all stoic like Bobba Fett or something. It's would be like a military version of MY FAIR LADY.

I only say this because though I could see her settle down only if Shep leaves the Alliance and she has no where else to go but she would feel uncomfortable or out of place like that.

[SlottsMachine]

yorkj86 wrote...

Here's a really pretty picture of Jack, by Ornia.

Nice find York.

[Errationatus]

I agree wholeheartedly with Mondo - (nice Rollins ref, too, glad I'm not the only one ), a poem is the perfect way for Jack to attempt the inexpressible - pain is never anything to take lightly, and prose just doesn't cut it.  If anyone has the actual cred to say she's even close to "The Queen of Pain", it's Ms. Nought.

As to art, stuff Jack likes or secretly indulges in?  I can see her doing the following and kicking serious butt in the doing:

This.

Nuff said.

[adriano_c]

Yeah, I'm with you on on the music angle. I think some are projecting a little bit too much of their own preference onto the character. At least that's the impression I get quite a bit when reading the usual "What would Jack..." query.

It'd be nice if she had some unusually eclectic musical tastes. Unfortunately, I see her listening to some generic hard rock or metal (ugh). She also probably eats greasy fries and burgers, smokes Marlboro reds, drinks Budweiser beer and doesn't brush her teeth regularly before going to bed.

-edit. Not that there's anything wrong with that stuff!

-edit. Actually...

Modifié par adriano_c, 06 février 2011 - 08:50 .

[Confused_Shepard]

adriano_c wrote...

Yeah, I'm with you on on the music angle. I think some are projecting a little bit too much of their own preference onto the character. At least that's the impression I get quite a bit when reading the usual "What would Jack..." query.

It'd be nice if she had some unusually eclectic musical tastes. Unfortunately, I see her listening to some generic hard rock or metal (ugh). She also probably eats greasy fries and burgers, smokes Marlboro reds, drinks Budweiser beer and doesn't brush her teeth regularly before going to bed.

-edit. Not that there's anything wrong with that stuff!

-edit. Actually...

Whenever you are in bit of a fix, always ask  WHAT WOULD JESUS JACK DO?