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[axl99]

[Confused-Shepard]

A good progression for Jack's character would be becoming a Sonya Blade (Mortal Kombat) expy
I believe she'll have hair like Guile (Street Fighter) though. Short, crew cut.

And I bet she's a red head.

[Ultai]

I've been following this guy's artwork for some time since I first saw his Shepard pic.  He just finished Kasumi Goto, and the other 2 he has listed that he's currently working on is Jack and Mordin.  I love the style and can't wait to see Jack
patryk-garrett.deviantart.com/

[Gethforceone]

Ultai wrote...

I've been following this guy's artwork for some time since I first saw his Shepard pic.  He just finished Kasumi Goto, and the other 2 he has listed that he's currently working on is Jack and Mordin.  I love the style and can't wait to see Jack
patryk-garrett.deviantart.com/

Finally.

From the moment I saw his first piece, I been hoping he'd do Jack.  

[axl99]

Yay more Jack fanart!

Modifié par axl99, 23 avril 2011 - 06:50 .

[GodWood]

Gethforceone wrote...
Finally.

From the moment I saw his first piece, I been hoping he'd do Jack.  

Me too

[Epantiras]

He said he wanted to draw the whole ME2 squad, so Jack's on the list :-)
that guy definitely has talent, though some of his pieces are so shiny that they hurt my eyes.

[android654]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

android654 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...
Also Keep in mind I thought ME2 was plenty dark for me, so all I want is good times from now on

How was it dark? It was almost completely light hearted.

You're being sarcastic, right? I'll still play along. I suppose one could think that dying, being brought back from the dead, helping Samara kill her own daughter, watching Thane grieve over how he got his wife killed, Garrus over how he got his team killed, Tali over her dead father, Jack for all the things done to her, Miranda for the things not done to her, helping Jacob deal with his slave-owning father, and hearing lovely stories about Jack in a latrine in Purgatory---could be seen as completely light-hearted, but that's cuz you're crazy. Possibly

Thane and Samara's story is entirely about parents with misguided children, not dark. Garrus was seeking justice for batrayed friends, not dark. Jacob and Tali's story is about parents with misguided actions that affected their children. All of these are kind of sad and touching in some way, but not dark. Perhaps you're merely lighthearted yourself.

[MortalEngines]

Guys, I think you're forgetting that one of the reasons Jack is coming back in ME3 (as a squaddie from the looks of it) is because she was POPULAR. She was popular as the bald, tattooed woman she was. While I think the 'maturing' aspect of her design will be changed by covering her top half a bit more and 'possibly' growing her hair (doubt it though), I HIGHLY doubt they'll make big changes.

Plus, if you've seen the Garrus video, you'll know the Design team like to keep what they think makes the character iconic in the design. I'm pretty sure Jack's hair and tattoos is what makes her iconic and I expect them to remain.

Trust in Bioware, they made the character Jack in the first place, I think they understand her just as well as we do .

[Goat_Shepard]

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Only different in one's pov.

I don't consider a "shaved head, her flat chest, her tattood body", a core of the character.  "B*tchy attitude"?  More so.

Yes, her personality is the most important part of her character. Her appearance is a reflection of that, and any changes shouldn't contradict it. I'm fairly sure it won't.

I do doubt Bioware, and what alterations they will make, and what they will give us in ME3.

After DA2 I know Bioware isn't infallible, but I have a lot more confidence in the ME team because they're working in their element unlike the DA team.

She may not look more presentable, though.  Either way, I'm not going to let someone else's fantasy ruin my game.

Indeed, it's rather spiteful of me to wish Jack to remain hated by the masses of normies, when she can so easily be tweaked to be acceptable to all.

android654 wrote...
Thane and Samara's story is entirely about parents with misguided children, not dark. Garrus was seeking justice
for batrayed friends, not dark. Jacob and Tali's story is about parents with misguided actions that affected their children. All of these are kind of sad and touching in some way, but not dark. Perhaps you're merely lighthearted yourself.

lol ok, everything sounds lame when you put it in Wiki format.  Origins wasn't dark either, right?

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 23 avril 2011 - 01:56 .

[Mondo47]

Ok, just to close my door on this whole section of backbiting and handbag-slapping, I'll just clarify -

I don't mind the changing Jack's appearance as long as it sits within the remit of character development and it isn't done just to try and win her some more fans among the timid little simps that require 34Ds and Farrah Fawcet's hairdresser to label someone as even remotely attractive. If she ends up looking like a scrawny version of every other woman on the ship I'll be disappointed.

I don't mind the prospect of "maturation" of the character as long as it is believable and plausable. Shepard's guiding hand or arms around her are not going to alter a lifetime like hers in a few months... that's a simple fact. You don't stop being an alcoholic overnight, you don't just "man up" and get on with life when the doctor tells you that lump is cancer, you don't stop shooting up heroin because you meet a nice guy, and you don't get over the wounds caused by rape, abuse, torture and blah blah blah in a few months. Change I don't mind, but a total u-turn in personality in a short period of time I can't swallow as character development; it'll just smack of pandering to the popularity contest crowd.

As for keeping her ink and scars on show... yes, I want that. Alter the costume by all means, but don't cover up something that is a part of the character's iconic-ness and an integral aspect of the character's backstory. It's me that wants that though for me - if you don't want to agree with that, don't, it's just a personal thing. But no amount of handbag-slapping is going to change my mind on that or make me feel stupid for thinking that way... feel free to do it, there'll be zero response though.

I'm not adverse to changes, as long as they don't completely write off something that works already. It's like those idiots that put a two-foot spoiler, spinning hubcaps (that don't allow you to Ben Hur other drivers) and neon under their cars... why the f*ck bother if it does nothing to the car's performance? It will not make you a better driver, it will not make you Vin Diesel, and it will not garner respect from anyone (save perhaps other berks with neon under their cars). I have the same point of view on changes to any character in the game series - if the changes are so large as to warp the characters as they have been presented thus far, all you end up damaging is your artistic integrity. And the expectations of an already-solid fanbase.

Those are my only concerns, and I hope this time I've outlined where I'm coming from. I'm done talking about it.

[Goat_Shepard]

There's a lot of integrity in your stance, Mondo. I think some ppl are just trying to get your goat

yorkj86 wrote...

I'm just gonna post this now, to be able to prove my Jack hipsterness, if/when it's contested in the future, before the changes are made to her, for ME3: "I liked Jack before she was popular."

ooo I love this game. Well I liked Jack before she was infamous! *thumps chest*

[Razorsedge820]

IMO Jack has to change somewhat in ME3, otherwise blowing up the Teltin facility and Romancing her (if you did) was for nothing. If Jack keeps the same attitude she had cursing obsessively, dressing like she does not care what others think, and has the same thirst for violence that wouldn't be much character progression now would it.

The way I see it with the Teltin facility gone and fighting the good fight with Shepard Jack has no reason to be a crude rude super biotic anymore, she now has a purpose in life stopping the reapers and a friend/lover in Shepard which is something she never had. If Jack came back the exact same way she was appearance and all in ME2 I would be very upset with Bioware because to me it would seem like they put no effort in evolving her whatsoever. The main part of ME3 I am looking forward to seeing the most is how Shepard's actions effect the galaxy and those around him/her Jack included.

Lets be honest most were put off by Jacks first introduction on Purgatory with her calling Shepard a puss and all, but what made me love Jacks character was seeing her slowly let down her defenses for Shepard as the game progressed and finally getting to see her venerable in Shepard's quarters before the suicide mission. I want.....no no...I need to see much more of this out of Jack in ME3 because most of Jack in ME2 was just a facade to keep others away, now in ME3 I want to see the REAL Jack.

As for a Jacks appearance change I trust Bioware wont go to far with it.

Modifié par Razorsedge820, 23 avril 2011 - 03:26 .

[Goat_Shepard]

You have to consider her development for people who didn't romance her. So we're not going to see two different Jack's. If her personality changes over 3 months, it'll be because of Teltin or unseen events between games. I agree we should see some development, but Jack not cursing obsessively? Caring what people think? I wanna strangle a kitten just thinking about it.

[Ninjapino]

I love Jack, I can't lie. Almost to a scary degree to love a fictional character. (don't worry, I'm not writing bad pornographic fan fiction of her or anything) People complain about her attitude and such, but most people that have an attitude like her have a reason for being that way, which you saw if she became your paramour. You saw a whole new side of her that was always right under the rough exterior and fleshed out the character far more than anybody else on the Normandy, imo.

Also, I've always had a thing for girls with short hair and tattoos, I don't know why. She's definitely the "alt" girl of the group.  Honestly, though, I hope they give her a better outfit then the strap-bra thing. That just looked like they were overdoing it. I actually really liked her alternate dlc outfit, so long as they removed those dumb looking sunglasses.

Modifié par Ninjapino, 23 avril 2011 - 04:16 .

[Ninjapino]

thanks

[SlottsMachine]

If they covered up Jack tats too much, would anybody interpret that as Jack being ashamed of them in some way?

[CulturalGeekGirl]

If I were going to dress Jack up in something different, I'd like to try a wifebeater and some slightly torn-up shorts. Not daisy dukes, but something easy to move around in that would allow us to see the tats on her legs.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

yorkj86 wrote...

I don't remember - did Jack actually have a reason, other than paranoia, for killing that girl and that guy who were together?

I think it's up to you to decide. Did she actually pick up on them being deceptive... walk into the room and they'd stop talking, that kind of thing... or did she just make it all up in her head? She says "I saw where it was going," which could be a valid thing... sometimes there are red flags. And sometimes you're just a crazy person.