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That's not a hairstyle. That's a hair sculpture! [/snob. This is what you get when you come from a family of hairdressers.]

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Hey guys, just out of curiosity, thinking back to purgatory, I'm just now noticing that all the prisoners there have buzzed heads. That said, do you think Jack's hair was buzzed by personal choice or was it mandatory? Sorry if this has already come up.

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Ranarc wrote...

Hey guys, just out of curiosity, thinking back to purgatory, I'm just now noticing that all the prisoners there have buzzed heads. That said, do you think Jack's hair was buzzed by personal choice or was it mandatory? Sorry if this has already come up.

She says it's from the cult she joined, and decided to keep it.

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MHRazer wrote...

Ranarc wrote...

Hey guys, just out of curiosity, thinking back to purgatory, I'm just now noticing that all the prisoners there have buzzed heads. That said, do you think Jack's hair was buzzed by personal choice or was it mandatory? Sorry if this has already come up.

She says it's from the cult she joined, and decided to keep it.


Ah, now I remember, been months since I've played ME2, thanks for reminding me.

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If you guys haven't seen this already, lmao. 

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If you guys haven't seen this already, lmao. 


Well, are we surprised that Jack might be in to some ****ed up ****?

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@spiros
I be scarred, now :lol:

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"Good, I can't take much more of your face anyway."

That's totally wicked! Nobody ever says something like Shepard without getting a bullet in the head in the next scene. Except Jack, of course :-)

She said that to Shepard the whole game, so for me it's not that she said it, but that she even says it after the romance scene. I expected a "Good, we'll talk later" or "Peace" or maybe even "Bye, sweetie". But that made me lol hard. That's why I don't imagine any drastic changes in her character.

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Anything past the top of her ears is too long. And dreadlocks is so new age now, that I can't think of anyone I know or known who wasn't a sloth in some respect. The whole redesign sounds like a bad idea.

Indeed. I think her getting lazy and letting it grow an inch or two naturally is the WORST they should do.

I was never. Big fan of Ashley, but they totally changed the churchgirl from top to bottom. If this is what they have in store for Jack...

Same here. Someone said Ashley's remodeling was because she's a Spectre now, but I only had to point to Tela Vasir to prove that she's more like Miranda than a Spectre. I never did like Ashley, but now she doesn't even have the credibility of looking like the soldier she's so proud of being.

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Hey ya'll, I was wondering if anyone could help answer a question about Jack's loyalty mission for me? (didn't want to start a thread about it until after I'd asked here).

Does anyone know if there's a difference between the Paragon option for her loyalty mission or the...I'm not sure which option it really it. (The regular option that says not to kill him, and then requires an interrupt to save Aresh's life). I was rather freaking out, because even with a paragon bar over 75 % ( I think it was at least) the paragon option was still grey'ed out.

Then I saw the regular "let him live" Option had an interrupt, which seems to have had the same effect as the paragon one. Anyone know if there's a difference between the two? The wiki wasn't very clear and now I'm freaking out a little bit over it.

My current character is mostly renegade, but wanted to go paragon in that one instance (and as I'm on the 360 version and am not very tech-savvy, I didn't want to try modding it to have more paragon points).

Anyways, thought I'd ask here as this is the thread dedicated to such an amazing character : )

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If I'm not mistaken, Jack is one of their characters whose loyalty mission cannot be failed, no matter what you do. The paragon/renegade options may be greyed out even if your paragon/renegade bars are almost full because the game does also consider the paragon/renegade options YOU DID NOT take. I know it does not make any sense, but there is a better explaination somewhere on this forum.

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Epantiras wrote...

If I'm not mistaken, Jack is one of their characters whose loyalty mission cannot be failed, no matter what you do.


Makes me wonder if the Aresh decision will matter at all to Jack's character, in ME3.

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All I know is that Aresh and Murtock better not show up. Awwkwaaaaard.

It was a tense situation tho. Jack finds closure and agrees with killing Aresh OR letting him go. Which actually confuses me cuz after I let her kill him she says

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So I hit the white (neutral?) option, then skip the paragon interrupt :devil:

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And about the renegade/paragon system, Ecael or Pacifien had a thread for it but I can't find it, I think that for every 4 charm/intimidate situations you come across, 3 of them have to be paragon or renegade so that you don't have them both greyed out. I'm not sure, and I definitely dk how it works when you don't choose either.

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I remember in my first (canon) playthrough the paragon/renegade options were greyed out, I chose the "tell her to kill him but fail" option (she does the exact opposite you tell her, unless you choose the paragon/renegade options) but I didn't take the renegade interruption. It felt bad to force my idea on her.
And so I also let Garrus kill Sidonis, Mordin kill Maelon, Miranda kill that-other-guy-I-can't-remember and so on :-P

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What's the renegade interrupt? The only white option I ever chose was "Leave him alone".

And I felt equally as bad as you on my renegade.

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Just awful.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 27 avril 2011 - 04:19 .


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hmm, alrighty. Thanks for the help ya'll, I'm hoping it didn't change anything (it seemed like her post-mission dialogue was the same on the ship). But I suppose if it did I'll just have to live with it lol.

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Hmm, not sure how to feel about this interview.  I always worry when somebody from BioWare mentions they "listen to the fans," because I always wonder which fans they're listening to.

Hopefully, all our bolstering of how much we liked Jack got heard, and that there wasn't a whole column during the development of ME3 that said, "JACK SUX KILL HER OR GIVE HER SUM HAIR!"

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I got the impression that the guys at BioWare look at constructive criticism, so that should discard about 9 out of 10 complaints of Jack or any other character for that matter. I hope so anyway.

Edit: and Garrus "most popular romance"? Casey must have mixed his amino spices. :P

Modifié par stefanbw, 27 avril 2011 - 10:15 .


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bump

#19018
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Niddy' wrote...

bump

Thanks, but we really don't need all the bumps just for the sake of bumping. 

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MHRazer wrote...

Niddy' wrote...

bump

Thanks, but we really don't need all the bumps just for the sake of bumping. 


Bump. B)

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BobbyTheI wrote...

Hmm, not sure how to feel about this interview.  I always worry when somebody from BioWare mentions they "listen to the fans," because I always wonder which fans they're listening to.

Hopefully, all our bolstering of how much we liked Jack got heard, and that there wasn't a whole column during the development of ME3 that said, "JACK SUX KILL HER OR GIVE HER SUM HAIR!"


I seem to recall Hudson saying that Jack is his personal favourite. Let's just hope that means he likes her as she is, and not as the "reformed" subject of some reductive knight-in-shining-armour fantasy.

All I can say to those who persist in claiming Jack needs the alleged overhaul is...

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

What's the renegade interrupt? The only white option I ever chose was "Leave him alone".


Shepard points his weapon at Aresh, and I don't remember the exact line but its someting to the tune of, "if you haven't got the balls to shoot him, than I will". And Jack not willing to back down shoots Aresh. 

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LiquidGrape wrote...
I seem to recall Hudson saying that Jack is his personal favourite. Let's just hope that means he likes her as she is, and not as the "reformed" subject of some reductive knight-in-shining-armour fantasy.

I could listen to Casey for hours. As evidence of his eternal love of Jack, I recall this interview. He also says Miranda's simpler which was kinda out of nowhere :lol:

All I can say to those who persist in claiming Jack needs the alleged overhaul is...
epicsnp

Hot. And I want glasses to be optional.

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@GeneralSlotts
I don't mean the Intimidate option I mean the renegade interrupt after you fail to tell her to kill Aresh.

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If I remember correctly, she lets him go.

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

@GeneralSlotts
I don't mean the Intimidate option I mean the renegade interrupt after you fail to tell her to kill Aresh.


I was talking about the interrupt, the problem is I barely remember it. So yes I've done a disservice to the evilness of the conversation by shrinking in down. I don't know if this means anything to you since I'm sure you'd prefer to have the subtitles at your fingertips, but I'll try and explain it better anyway. Remember that when you click a white option she will want to do the the opposite.

Shep:  "Jack, I think you should kill him"
Jack:  "No, I'm not doing it"
Shep: "Jack, I'm ordering you to kill him"
Jack:  "**** you"
Shep points pistol at Aresh: "If your not tough enough to finish him then I'll do it myself"
Jack stares Shep down an then pulls the trigger.   

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GeneralSlotts193 wrote...
Shep:  "Jack, I think you should kill him"
Jack:  "No, I'm not doing it"
Shep: "Jack, I'm ordering you to kill him"
Jack:  "**** you"
Shep points pistol at Aresh: "If your not tough enough to finish him then I'll do it myself"
Jack stares Shep down an then pulls the trigger.  


Whoa! That's similar to the Intimidate option except more dialogue from Jack. How awful.

Speaking of awful, here's more words from Casey

"You got people that might die in your squad, those people will stay dead obviously, and something different will happen in ME3. Part of the thing is we don't like to punish for a certain decision, we actually try to reward both sides of the decision in different ways."

Nooooo!