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[Ultai]

Guess I'm a bit late to the party about the new dlc appearances. Those shades have to go, or at least raise them up on her head, her eyes convey too much emotion.

[Noilly Prat]

Ilzairspar wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

But going back to the subject at hand, Epantiras raises a good point, as well as another one of theose trademark Jack questions. If Purgatory was still part of the experiment... Then who's to say the experiment's ended yet?

I don't put anything agaisnt Ceberus.  While I truly think they did loose her a few times in the past I also wonder how many of those groups she was running with had Ceberus connections.  After all, Miranda openly admits that one Ceberus cell does not know who any other members are.  For all we know there could have been Ceberus spies in that cult, perhaps in one or two of the gangs, ect.

Ceberus psycological test # 124...how much negative stress can a subjet take before completely going over the edge...

::looking at my past posts:;

You know, I never realized just how paranoid I've gotten...

Oh, now you guys have got me thinking horrible, sadistic things.  What if Cerberus rebuilt Shepard with a degenerative problem that would kill him slowly, just to screw with Jack?  Maybe they have a whole branch dedicated to ruining Jack's life.

I'm not really being serious, but that sure would suck, yeah?

[Azint]

Is it really that big of a deal if Jack grew out her hair? I don't think so, so long as she stays consistent as a character there should be nothing to worry about. I'll take Jack either way.

[axl99]

Technically speaking no, but some people like to wonder about Jack having hair as much as guessing what Tali looks like without her mask.



It's fun to speculate, but even that has its limits.

[gneissguy2003]

Azint wrote...

Is it really that big of a deal if Jack grew out her hair? I don't think so, so long as she stays consistent as a character there should be nothing to worry about. I'll take Jack either way.

I'm personally of the opinion that shaved is awesome and should definitely be considered heavily for ME3, but a little hair wouldn't be bad as long as it's something that fits Jack's persona. Or, if in doubt, have her hair be changeable like her costume.

As for Jack staying consistent as a character if/when she shows up in ME3, I have to wonder... what parts of her personality would you want to carry over. Obviously, I don't think any of us want our new favorite character to pull a 180 and become clingy or weak. However, to not have Jack grow in some manner seems like it would be a disservice both to the character and to us, her fans.

[Mkrgross]

I believe that Jack's outward appearance was to push people away. Now that she has found a friend in Shepard, or lover for that matter, it is totally plausible for her to change her appearance. As long as her personality stays intact, she is still Jack.

[Mondo47]

Ultai wrote...

Guess I'm a bit late to the party about the new dlc appearances. Those shades have to go, or at least raise them up on her head, her eyes convey too much emotion.

Never to late to join the party - some of us are prehistoric and repeat ourselves a bit in our old age

Actually, to deviate from hair back to eyewear... how does anyone feel about goggles as opposed to oldschool wraparounds? Ok, I've had an industrialist gene for a good twenty years now, but does anyone think gogs would look better than bins on Jack (or anyone for that matter)? Ok, they totally hides the eyes (and that isn't really our bag here) but for occasional wear? I think the right kind of goggles coupled with a shaved head would make Jack look even more intense than she already does. Plus they'd be even more 80's sci-fi retro...

Ok, feel free to sink me... I can hear you priming torpedoes from here

[stormrain]

Mondo47 wrote...

I quite like that look on Nat... I have a secret Peter Pan fetish that I grew up with before I was old enough to grasp that Peter Pan was usually played by a woman on stage. While I find it nearly impossible to distance the lovely Miss P from Matilda in Leon* (and thus making her 'hawt' creepy beyond words, even now she's all grown up), I think it's easier to think she's hot with her hair like that... and being hawt is a part of Jack (to me at least... I'm allowed, ok).

I love cross-posting this so much, I'll pop this in here - the hairstyle in question's there, and so is the sailor's mouth

This. So much.

[royceclemens]

gneissguy2003 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Is it really that big of a deal if Jack grew out her hair? I don't think so, so long as she stays consistent as a character there should be nothing to worry about. I'll take Jack either way.

I'm personally of the opinion that shaved is awesome and should definitely be considered heavily for ME3, but a little hair wouldn't be bad as long as it's something that fits Jack's persona. Or, if in doubt, have her hair be changeable like her costume.

As for Jack staying consistent as a character if/when she shows up in ME3, I have to wonder... what parts of her personality would you want to carry over. Obviously, I don't think any of us want our new favorite character to pull a 180 and become clingy or weak. However, to not have Jack grow in some manner seems like it would be a disservice both to the character and to us, her fans.

What do I want out of Jack in ME3?  Well, if she started here...

http://tvtropes.org/.../ChaoticNeutral

I'd like her to get about... Here.

http://tvtropes.org/...ain/ChaoticGood

Open to reason, kind to her allies, and heart-stoppingly cruel to everyone else!

[Mondo47]

Captain Uccisore wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

I quite like that look on Nat... I have a secret Peter Pan fetish that I grew up with before I was old enough to grasp that Peter Pan was usually played by a woman on stage. While I find it nearly impossible to distance the lovely Miss P from Matilda in Leon* (and thus making her 'hawt' creepy beyond words, even now she's all grown up), I think it's easier to think she's hot with her hair like that... and being hawt is a part of Jack (to me at least... I'm allowed, ok).

I love cross-posting this so much, I'll pop this in here - the hairstyle in question's there, and so is the sailor's mouth

This. So much.

She had me at 'Shut the **** up and suck my ****.'

[Firmijn]

Mondo47 wrote...

Ultai wrote...

Guess I'm a bit late to the party about the new dlc appearances. Those shades have to go, or at least raise them up on her head, her eyes convey too much emotion.

Never to late to join the party - some of us are prehistoric and repeat ourselves a bit in our old age

Actually, to deviate from hair back to eyewear... how does anyone feel about goggles as opposed to oldschool wraparounds? Ok, I've had an industrialist gene for a good twenty years now, but does anyone think gogs would look better than bins on Jack (or anyone for that matter)? Ok, they totally hides the eyes (and that isn't really our bag here) but for occasional wear? I think the right kind of goggles coupled with a shaved head would make Jack look even more intense than she already does. Plus they'd be even more 80's sci-fi retro...

Ok, feel free to sink me... I can hear you priming torpedoes from here

Well, since she was probably based on Jack from Pitch Black, I would think that those same goggles as Riddick wears would look perfect on her in combination with the biker clothes;)

[Mondo47]

Firmijn wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Ultai wrote...

Guess I'm a bit late to the party about the new dlc appearances. Those shades have to go, or at least raise them up on her head, her eyes convey too much emotion.

Never to late to join the party - some of us are prehistoric and repeat ourselves a bit in our old age

Actually, to deviate from hair back to eyewear... how does anyone feel about goggles as opposed to oldschool wraparounds? Ok, I've had an industrialist gene for a good twenty years now, but does anyone think gogs would look better than bins on Jack (or anyone for that matter)? Ok, they totally hides the eyes (and that isn't really our bag here) but for occasional wear? I think the right kind of goggles coupled with a shaved head would make Jack look even more intense than she already does. Plus they'd be even more 80's sci-fi retro...

Ok, feel free to sink me... I can hear you priming torpedoes from here

Well, since she was probably based on Jack from Pitch Black, I would think that those same goggles as Riddick wears would look perfect on her in combination with the biker clothes;)

Like, oh my Gawd... I went and forgot Jack was, like, totally derivative and, like, totally based on that character, and y'know, like totally a complete ripoff, because like, they're both y'know called Jack, and like, are girls and they have shaved heads and all...

[gneissguy2003]

Mondo47 wrote...

Firmijn wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Ultai wrote...

Guess I'm a bit late to the party about the new dlc appearances. Those shades have to go, or at least raise them up on her head, her eyes convey too much emotion.

Never to late to join the party - some of us are prehistoric and repeat ourselves a bit in our old age

Actually, to deviate from hair back to eyewear... how does anyone feel about goggles as opposed to oldschool wraparounds? Ok, I've had an industrialist gene for a good twenty years now, but does anyone think gogs would look better than bins on Jack (or anyone for that matter)? Ok, they totally hides the eyes (and that isn't really our bag here) but for occasional wear? I think the right kind of goggles coupled with a shaved head would make Jack look even more intense than she already does. Plus they'd be even more 80's sci-fi retro...

Ok, feel free to sink me... I can hear you priming torpedoes from here

Well, since she was probably based on Jack from Pitch Black, I would think that those same goggles as Riddick wears would look perfect on her in combination with the biker clothes;)

Like, oh my Gawd... I went and forgot Jack was, like, totally derivative and, like, totally based on that character, and y'know, like totally a complete ripoff, because like, they're both y'know called Jack, and like, are girls and they have shaved heads and all...

The sarcasm is strong with this one.

[Jackal904]

Mondo47 wrote...

Ultai wrote...

Hm,  I like her how she is now, if she grows it out you won't be able to see the little tattoo strip on her head or whatever.  I could live with it growing slightly.  Maybe something like this?

Only thing is I don't see her having a reason to grow her hair out if she isn't a LI.  Not sure if Bioware would have a special hairstyle for her for being a LI or not.  I'm fine with her haircut, matches up nicely with Shep's

I quite like that look on Nat... I have a secret Peter Pan fetish that I grew up with before I was old enough to grasp that Peter Pan was usually played by a woman on stage. While I find it nearly impossible to distance the lovely Miss P from Matilda in Leon* (and thus making her 'hawt' creepy beyond words, even now she's all grown up), I think it's easier to think she's hot with her hair like that... and being hawt is a part of Jack (to me at least... I'm allowed, ok).

I love cross-posting this so much, I'll pop this in here - the hairstyle in question's there, and so is the sailor's mouth

* If only Thane had been more like Leon... *le sigh*

I've never really seen Natalie Portman much but I do remember people saying Jack looks like her. She kind of even sounds like Jack. After seeing a video of her with that hairdue (especially with her act'n all badass and **** lol), I think Jack would look pretty good with that same exact hiardue as Natalie Portman. I'm kind of torn between the shaved head and the Natalie Portman hairdue. Either way I would be satisfied. It would make sense to go with the Natalie Portman hairdue if you romanced her since, like Mkrgross said, that the purpose of her appearance was to push people away, but now that she has a relationship with Shepard, it's very reasonable for her to change her appearance. I just don't want her to change too much. I'd like her to keep the tight black vest (her alt outfit). But some different pants that don't look like part of Hannibal Lecture's straight jacket would be nice.

Modifié par Jackal904, 16 mars 2010 - 09:13 .

[Firmijn]

gneissguy2003 wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Firmijn wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Ultai wrote...

Guess I'm a bit late to the party about the new dlc appearances. Those shades have to go, or at least raise them up on her head, her eyes convey too much emotion.

Never to late to join the party - some of us are prehistoric and repeat ourselves a bit in our old age

Actually, to deviate from hair back to eyewear... how does anyone feel about goggles as opposed to oldschool wraparounds? Ok, I've had an industrialist gene for a good twenty years now, but does anyone think gogs would look better than bins on Jack (or anyone for that matter)? Ok, they totally hides the eyes (and that isn't really our bag here) but for occasional wear? I think the right kind of goggles coupled with a shaved head would make Jack look even more intense than she already does. Plus they'd be even more 80's sci-fi retro...

Ok, feel free to sink me... I can hear you priming torpedoes from here

Well, since she was probably based on Jack from Pitch Black, I would think that those same goggles as Riddick wears would look perfect on her in combination with the biker clothes;)

Like, oh my Gawd... I went and forgot Jack was, like, totally derivative and, like, totally based on that character, and y'know, like totally a complete ripoff, because like, they're both y'know called Jack, and like, are girls and they have shaved heads and all...

The sarcasm is strong with this one.

Sarcasm does not pierce my iron wall of cynism:ph34r:

:unsure:although I admit I asked for it:P

[Noilly Prat]

royceclemens wrote...


What do I want out of Jack in ME3?  Well, if she started here...

http://tvtropes.org/.../ChaoticNeutral

I'd like her to get about... Here.

http://tvtropes.org/...ain/ChaoticGood

Open to reason, kind to her allies, and heart-stoppingly cruel to everyone else!

I'm Chaotic Good, according to some online quiz I took somewhere, and I'm nice.  

It's just arbitrary structures of hierarchy and coercion I have a problem with, not people.  Unless they're idiots.

In fact, Jack and I had some disagreements over this, but I think that's her bitterness talking more than anything else.

[Mkrgross]

I like the goggles idea, much better than the wrap arounds.

[royceclemens]

Noilly Prat wrote...

royceclemens wrote...


What do I want out of Jack in ME3?  Well, if she started here...

http://tvtropes.org/.../ChaoticNeutral

I'd like her to get about... Here.

http://tvtropes.org/...ain/ChaoticGood

Open to reason, kind to her allies, and heart-stoppingly cruel to everyone else!

I'm Chaotic Good, according to some online quiz I took somewhere, and I'm nice.  

It's just arbitrary structures of hierarchy and coercion I have a problem with, not people.  Unless they're idiots.

In fact, Jack and I had some disagreements over this, but I think that's her bitterness talking more than anything else.

Well, for nine layers of alignment, there's a whole lot of breathing room for each, with a wide assortment of characters in media to be found in each.  Bedfellows can get strange.  Sure enough, I took a quiz a lot like that and drew the same thing. 

Lemme put it like this in how I imagine Jack's future playing out:  Would slaughtering entire shiploads of batarian slavers while freeing the slaves and dropping them off on a friendly planet be legal?  No.

But would it be something I'd enjoy seeing a paragon Jack do?  Absolutely.  She still retains her edge while not succumbing to chickification.

Modifié par royceclemens, 16 mars 2010 - 09:31 .

[Mondo47]

Firmijn wrote...

gneissguy2003 wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Firmijn wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Ultai wrote...

Guess I'm a bit late to the party about the new dlc appearances. Those shades have to go, or at least raise them up on her head, her eyes convey too much emotion.

Never to late to join the party - some of us are prehistoric and repeat ourselves a bit in our old age

Actually, to deviate from hair back to eyewear... how does anyone feel about goggles as opposed to oldschool wraparounds? Ok, I've had an industrialist gene for a good twenty years now, but does anyone think gogs would look better than bins on Jack (or anyone for that matter)? Ok, they totally hides the eyes (and that isn't really our bag here) but for occasional wear? I think the right kind of goggles coupled with a shaved head would make Jack look even more intense than she already does. Plus they'd be even more 80's sci-fi retro...

Ok, feel free to sink me... I can hear you priming torpedoes from here

Well, since she was probably based on Jack from Pitch Black, I would think that those same goggles as Riddick wears would look perfect on her in combination with the biker clothes;)

Like, oh my Gawd... I went and forgot Jack was, like, totally derivative and, like, totally based on that character, and y'know, like totally a complete ripoff, because like, they're both y'know called Jack, and like, are girls and they have shaved heads and all...

The sarcasm is strong with this one.

Sarcasm does not pierce my iron wall of cynism:ph34r:

:unsure:although I admit I asked for it:P

Ah, that wasn't a dig at you, my friend, it was more of a dig at all the other boobs that say that. I had frankly forgotten about that line of reasoning because it seems so damn absurd to me. It's as baffling as saying that because I have knockers I'm just like, I don't know... Pamela Anderson? Let's all just ignore they're conflating two seperate characters through the tenuous linkage of a pair of sci-fi movies (one of which is questionable in its direct association with the other due to completely 're-imagining' the universe of the first in an attempt to make a heroic-epic storyline where the original had no setup for such) to try and voice an opinion that, while valid to them, collapses under the most elementary-school level of examination. If my 12 year old can see there is no correlation between Jack and 'Jack' aside from the name, any argument otherwise is futile, groundless, ultimately unprovable, and doomed to failure under the most cursory examination.

If a child can poke a hole in your theory, in the words of Einstein, it's "****ing pointless."

And that's why I let everything pierce me - because what bleeds out burns holes in the earth

[Firmijn]

I should have been more specific then When I said" Based upon" I was only talking about the resemblence that meets the eye, like name, and figure. The dept of the characters is totally different ( dont know it that is correct english) Thank god/BioWare they are different. I wouldnt want Jack imitating Shepard because she thinks he's so damn cool^^



Still, biggest point i wanted to make: I want goggles instead of glasses!

[Noilly Prat]

royceclemens wrote...

Noilly Prat wrote...

I'm Chaotic Good, according to some online quiz I took somewhere, and I'm nice.  

It's just arbitrary structures of hierarchy and coercion I have a problem with, not people.  Unless they're idiots.

In fact, Jack and I had some disagreements over this, but I think that's her bitterness talking more than anything else.

Well, for nine layers of alignment, there's a whole lot of breathing room for each, with a wide assortment of characters in media to be found in each.  Bedfellows can get strange.  Sure enough, I took a quiz a lot like that and drew the same thing. 

Lemme put it like this in how I imagine Jack's future playing out:  Would slaughtering entire shiploads of batarian slavers while freeing the slaves and dropping them off on a friendly planet be legal?  No.

But would it be something I'd enjoy seeing a paragon Jack do?  Absolutely.  She still retains her edge while not succumbing to chickification.

That's also something I would definitely help Paragon Jack do.  Or, uh, my Shepard would help her do.  Whatever.

I like the idea, in any case.  

[Occams Razor 17]

Glasses, goggles; no real preference. I just want any eyewear on Jack to have clear lenses. Those eyes were made to be seen, dammit.

[Mondo47]

Noilly Prat wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

Noilly Prat wrote...

I'm Chaotic Good, according to some online quiz I took somewhere, and I'm nice.  

It's just arbitrary structures of hierarchy and coercion I have a problem with, not people.  Unless they're idiots.

In fact, Jack and I had some disagreements over this, but I think that's her bitterness talking more than anything else.

Well, for nine layers of alignment, there's a whole lot of breathing room for each, with a wide assortment of characters in media to be found in each.  Bedfellows can get strange.  Sure enough, I took a quiz a lot like that and drew the same thing. 

Lemme put it like this in how I imagine Jack's future playing out:  Would slaughtering entire shiploads of batarian slavers while freeing the slaves and dropping them off on a friendly planet be legal?  No.

But would it be something I'd enjoy seeing a paragon Jack do?  Absolutely.  She still retains her edge while not succumbing to chickification.

That's also something I would definitely help Paragon Jack do.  Or, uh, my Shepard would help her do.  Whatever.

I like the idea, in any case.  

I concur with you both.

Though doesn't it sound like a Paragon-ified Jack would make... a fine Spectre?

[Jackal904]

How about no headgear at all on Jack. Just the new vest. I would be fine with that. I would not be able to take Jack remotely seriously with goggles, glasses, visor or whatever headgear on her. Oh well, it's not like I'm being forced to use these possible new outfits. I hope I don't have to pay for these alternate outfits though if they are real, because there is no way I'm spending a nickel on alternate outfits let a lone silly looking ones.

[Ilzairspar]

Mondo47 wrote...

Noilly Prat wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

Noilly Prat wrote...

I'm Chaotic Good, according to some online quiz I took somewhere, and I'm nice.  

It's just arbitrary structures of hierarchy and coercion I have a problem with, not people.  Unless they're idiots.

In fact, Jack and I had some disagreements over this, but I think that's her bitterness talking more than anything else.

Well, for nine layers of alignment, there's a whole lot of breathing room for each, with a wide assortment of characters in media to be found in each.  Bedfellows can get strange.  Sure enough, I took a quiz a lot like that and drew the same thing. 

Lemme put it like this in how I imagine Jack's future playing out:  Would slaughtering entire shiploads of batarian slavers while freeing the slaves and dropping them off on a friendly planet be legal?  No.

But would it be something I'd enjoy seeing a paragon Jack do?  Absolutely.  She still retains her edge while not succumbing to chickification.

That's also something I would definitely help Paragon Jack do.  Or, uh, my Shepard would help her do.  Whatever.

I like the idea, in any case.  

I concur with you both.

Though doesn't it sound like a Paragon-ified Jack would make... a fine Spectre?

Why yes it does sound like she'd make a wonderful Spectre...expecially since she doesn't exist legaly.