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[axl99]

Like shooting targets at the firing range?

Putting on some Miles Davis while chugging an old vintage?

[Jedi Master of Orion]

axl99 wrote...

Going on whatever Casey mentioned in a previous tweet of his:

It's likely there's really nothing to speculate about if the writers stick to what they've done with Jack in ME2.

This, actually makes me happy. The possibility of more talking/bantering, and maybe actually hanging out with squaddies is what I like to hear.

That might just be (in theory) some of the best news I've heard so far about the game.

[Epantiras]

[SPOILER]

Jack being bi in ME3? I'd come here on the forums to complain about "how they've butchered her character" and/or "how they've done it just to appease the male audience".
Then I'd happily let my Femshep dump Mr. I-am-dying and make Jack her pirate queen

BUT

I bet the character who will turn bi is probably the Virmire Survivor. C'mon, the whole Virmire situation is about saving your LI and letting your best friend die instead (unless you're romancing Liara). If you decided to save the character of the same gender of your Shepard, it means you were not interested in romancing the one you decided to kill sacrifice.

And if I'm wrong and the character turning bi is Tali instead, I'll probably bash the keyboard on my head.
For great justice.

[Goat_Shepard]

royceclemens wrote...
Okay, how is this going to affect your game?  Just because you can't see it means no one can and no one should?  Shouldn't your refusal to use an S/S romance for one of your Shepard's essentially solve your own problem?

It effects your perspective, and the integrity of the game. For example, Leliana shows up in DA2 whether you cut off her head in DA:O or not. David Gaider defended this decision, so it's not a glitch. Even though I would never kill Leliana, the fact that the writer doesn't give a f*ck, I don't give a f*ck. I am confident in the ME team, though.

Xilizhra wrote...
Just don't flirt with women.
And never, ever preface something with "I'm not homophobic/racist/sexist/etc."

No offense and with all due respect, but that's retarded

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...
Can't really argue with you there. A starting new romance for anyone seems like a lot of work, especially to make it seem natural. I'm actually not sure how I feel about starting a new romance with anyone who I didn't before. It feels like all the work I did building a relationship with whoever it was from the first two games less important.

For not importing, you'll get a Genesis-esque comic where you get a general overview of how Jack was in ME2 and then they can "pick" her based on an anecdote. That is just AWFUL, those people are missing so much content, but I'm digressing. There'll be at least 2 Intro-Jacks, romanced, not romanced. Maybe they take into account whether you renegade/paragon manced her, but the pessimist in me says they won't.

axl99 wrote...
This,
actually makes me happy. The possibility of more talking/bantering, and maybe actually hanging out with squaddies is what I like to hear.

YESSS!! I'm with Orion, imo this is the best news yet!

yorkj86 wrote...
I'd like to see them go even further, by giving people who romanced no one, something cool to do, during the "Why
Aren't You ****ing Someone" cutscene.

lol that reminds me the locker scene in ME1 if you don't romance anyone.

Shepard: "Are you spying on me, Joker?"

Joker: "Nothing to spy on, Commander."

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 16 mai 2011 - 01:43 .

[android654]

For anyone who played it, I think most would agree the squad interaction was DA2's shinning achievement. The other squad members knew one another, an interesting concept. If that's something that is being implemented in ME3, I'm all for it.

[axl99]

@york: "Whatever?" Lies. You do care. The devs are up on twitter and they do talk to people. And if that's too much effort, that's about as good voicing your opinion on the matter to the people who don't work on the game and thus have no real influence on its development. Namely us.

But for all intents and purposes I threw a couple questions of my own to Casey earlier. We'll see if he can answer.

[edit - in case anyone else cares] http://twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/70154686367404032

Modifié par axl99, 16 mai 2011 - 04:04 .

[Goat_Shepard]

yorkj86 wrote...
Next up, non-sexual romances.

Turning Tali down saying "This isn't right, we're taking too many risks as it is. We can't do this" takes the sex right out of that romance, and IIRC that's still considered a romance.

It still had a strong sexual theme, so I get what you're saying. There's not much difference between a bromance and a non-sexual romance, imo. I get that feeling with Tali, Garrus, Jacob, even when I'm not getting freaky with them.

@axl

I'm curious what you asked, and which post you responded to.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 16 mai 2011 - 04:08 .

[SlottsMachine]

 [SPOILER]

I never bought it when whichever article claimed there would be no new LI's, the one where Priestly came out and said they didn't have there facts straight. When Casey is already on record saying how much we love meeting new characters which is true, and to me being an LI is just a natural progression to those characters.

[Errationatus]

Goat_Shepard wrote...


Also, I usually shove a gun in Conrad's face just so that Conrad in ME2 makes more sense. If they fix that bug then I'm gunna feel pretty bad

Okay, it's just me then.

That Conrad Verner thing in ME2 where he goes "You shoved a gun in my face" even when you didn't in the first game?

Do people not actually listen to dialogue?  Not just what he's saying but how he's saying it?

Before you actually approach Conrad he's laying out his badass pedigree for the bartender.  He's "a man on the edge", he's learned what he knows from the famed Commander Shepard, and when you actually greet Conrad, his whole "you shoved a gun in my face and taught me what it was to be extreme" works whether you actually did it or not, because he's still selling himself to the goddamned crowd!  It's there in the tone of his voice!  Watch the damn thing again, let Conrad do his whole spiel - especically when you approach him - and you'll see, and maybe it won't just be me being delusional.

Oh, and why y'all freakin' over possible romance and Jack changes?  The game is at least TEN MONTHS AWAY.  Bioware will change it's intent thirteen times between now and then and the game they're selling now will not be the one you buy.  They will tell the story they want - because it's their story, regardless of how much the Talimancers whine about her elfin or not face, or the Jackolytes growl about hair and codpieces and big ass-stompin' boots, or her maturity levels depending on on quick slam in the storeroom.  Oy.

I play Mass Effect for the story, because, quite frankly, the gameplay has never been all that hot.  Do I have an emotional stake in the characters?  No, it's a video game, and I have an actual flesh-and-blood wife who is better looking than the lot and could stomp all their guts out on a bad day.  Don't get me wrong, I like the characters, and am curious to see what happens.  According to Bioware, Mass Effect has been plotted to its conclusion since the first game - and while they will most likely take players desires into consideration for characters, they very likely aren't going to radically alter their story because the Talimancers want to be able to have Shep's backward-knee'd babbys.  Unless they completely butcher the last game, we'll probably all enjoy it for the most part, one way or the other.

So, let's try and enjoy the game, maybe even give them some credit and go with stuff you might not like - can't please everyone and will not satisfy anyone to the extent some fans seem to expect, so that's just the way it'll roll.  If they do alter or not listen to you about some obscure and minute detail pertaining to your fave character, well, you can always vote with your wallet, trade ME3 and buy something appropriately mindless like Bulletstorm.

Besides, they're not gonna change Jack that much.  They're only afraid of the fvcked-up fvckton of rabid Taliwhackers, anyway.

[Goat_Shepard]

I see. Femshep can romance Jacob but if she doesn't want sex then that's bad and she should feel bad. They seem to be working more for the non-romance stuff than the asexual romance stuff

@Jake

Interesting. I'll have to see. I still think it's a glitch just for the fact you can literally shove a gun in his face if you want.

Also, Jake, theoretically would you advertise Intermezzo as "dark"?

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 16 mai 2011 - 05:57 .

[Errationatus]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

@Jake

Interesting. I'll have to see. I still think it's a glitch just for the fact you can literally shove a gun in his face if you want.

True, but I swear it's not a glitch.  Conrad is trying to make himself out to be a badass.  He's on a mission and he's trying to intimidate the bartender.  He got a gun shoved in his face by Commander Shepard, dude!  He's still alive!  He survived!  How badassed is that? 

Unless Bioware out-and-out calls it a glitch, I ain't gonna buy it.

Also, Jake, theoretically would you advertise Intermezzo as "dark"?

"Dark"?  It has dark elements, (Jack's early life was damned grim by any reckoning.  Kinda unavoidable, really.) and the tone (and the style, somewhat) does change as the story progressed.  I had meant the later bits to be more action-oriented and character-driven, and I would have tied it back into the narrative of the game, wanting to hopefully show some character growth that the game didn't show you.

*Shrug* 

Moot point, now, I guess.  Hope you like what I have done, however.  There was some potential there, I guess, but most Jackolytes are partial to Mondo and Epantrias and really aren't that tolerant of anything else.  Those two talented ladies are damn-near canon themselves 'round these parts. 

Such is the way things go.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

You know, I think what really concerns me is how any new romances (bi or not) are supposed to fit in with the "consequences" that were supposed to come up if ME 1 love interests ran into ME 2 ones. One of my characters had a thing with Liara, then Kelly. If I can start up a third one with Jack how's that all supposed to work out? That sounds a lot like somebody is going to be quietly forgotten about if I tried that. One of the things I didn't like about Dragon Age 2 romances was that you needed to be careful of one canceling the other out, like Mass Effect 1 before the first patch.

[Epantiras]

axl99 wrote...

[edit - in case anyone else cares] http://twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/70154686367404032

Gah! Why does he keep on teasing us??

[Goat_Shepard]

JakeMacDon wrote...

True, but I swear it's not a glitch.  Conrad is trying to make himself out to be a badass.  He's on a mission and he's trying to intimidate the bartender.  He got a gun shoved in his face by Commander Shepard, dude!  He's still alive!  He survived!  How badassed is that? 

Unless Bioware out-and-out calls it a glitch, I ain't gonna buy it.

Good point.  I love Conrad. So does Bioware cuz he had a bigger role in ME2 than the VS

"Dark"?  It has dark elements, (Jack's early life was damned grim by any reckoning.  Kinda unavoidable, really.) and the tone (and the style, somewhat) does change as the story progressed.  I had meant the later bits to be more action-oriented and character-driven, and I would have tied it back into the narrative of the game, wanting to hopefully show some character growth that the game didn't show you.

*Shrug* 

Moot point, now, I guess.  Hope you like what I have done, however.  There was some potential there, I guess, but most Jackolytes are partial to Mondo and Epantrias and really aren't that tolerant of anything else.  Those two talented ladies are damn-near canon themselves 'round these parts. 

Such is the way things go.

So what would you call it if advertised? Something short like "Want something dark?" came to mind. As you said, people are more predisposed to certain kinds of writing, and some are at the point of wanting to diversify.

I agree those two ladies are talented, but you can never have too many writers. Variety is deh spice o' life!

@Orion

I heard that when you import, you'll get a Genesis-like comic just like the PS3 users for ME1, only instead of making choices, it simply gives you an overview of what you did and which romance you pursued. I think that's how you won't be able to start a romance from scratch in ME3 unless it's with a new character. If you got with Jack, then you'll have a continuation. If not, then you'll have neutral Jack. If you had no ME2 LI, you get neutral Jack. Bioware just can't have the resources to let you have Jack's entire romance beginning to end packed into one game.

Something just occurred to me, how would the situation go if you romanced Ash in ME1, Jack in ME2, then hooked up with one of the brand new characters in ME3? Scary thought...

Epantiras wrote...
Gah! Why does he keep on teasing us??

The PR team will take way Casey's Twitter account soon enough 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Epantiras wrote...

axl99 wrote...

[edit - in case anyone else cares] http://twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/70154686367404032

Gah! Why does he keep on teasing us??

That sounds rather flawlessly vauge.

[Goat_Shepard]

yorkj86 wrote...

Which update are people referring to?

The last one axl linked us?

[Goat_Shepard]

This screen is my baby

[GOALISTAIR]

@ GOAT
Thats a good one

[StefanBW]

Where is that from? Samara's mission?

[Goat_Shepard]

Yessir. Crazy lighting.





Also like this lighting

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 16 mai 2011 - 11:56 .