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Ilzairspar wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Noilly Prat wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

Noilly Prat wrote...

I'm Chaotic Good, according to some online quiz I took somewhere, and I'm nice.  

It's just arbitrary structures of hierarchy and coercion I have a problem with, not people.  Unless they're idiots.

In fact, Jack and I had some disagreements over this, but I think that's her bitterness talking more than anything else.

Well, for nine layers of alignment, there's a whole lot of breathing room for each, with a wide assortment of characters in media to be found in each.  Bedfellows can get strange.  Sure enough, I took a quiz a lot like that and drew the same thing. 

Lemme put it like this in how I imagine Jack's future playing out:  Would slaughtering entire shiploads of batarian slavers while freeing the slaves and dropping them off on a friendly planet be legal?  No.

But would it be something I'd enjoy seeing a paragon Jack do?  Absolutely.  She still retains her edge while not succumbing to chickification.

That's also something I would definitely help Paragon Jack do.  Or, uh, my Shepard would help her do.  Whatever.

I like the idea, in any case.  

I concur with you both.

Though doesn't it sound like a Paragon-ified Jack would make... a fine Spectre?

Why yes it does sound like she'd make a wonderful Spectre...expecially since she doesn't exist legaly. 

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[royceclemens]

Mondo47 wrote...

Noilly Prat wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

Noilly Prat wrote...

I'm Chaotic Good, according to some online quiz I took somewhere, and I'm nice.  

It's just arbitrary structures of hierarchy and coercion I have a problem with, not people.  Unless they're idiots.

In fact, Jack and I had some disagreements over this, but I think that's her bitterness talking more than anything else.

Well, for nine layers of alignment, there's a whole lot of breathing room for each, with a wide assortment of characters in media to be found in each.  Bedfellows can get strange.  Sure enough, I took a quiz a lot like that and drew the same thing. 

Lemme put it like this in how I imagine Jack's future playing out:  Would slaughtering entire shiploads of batarian slavers while freeing the slaves and dropping them off on a friendly planet be legal?  No.

But would it be something I'd enjoy seeing a paragon Jack do?  Absolutely.  She still retains her edge while not succumbing to chickification.

That's also something I would definitely help Paragon Jack do.  Or, uh, my Shepard would help her do.  Whatever.

I like the idea, in any case.  

I concur with you both.

Though doesn't it sound like a Paragon-ified Jack would make... a fine Spectre?

That would be all that, a bag of chips, plus a soda and value meal.  But if the council can barely handle Shepard, then Jack would give them all heart attacks.  Maybe C-Sec?  Or would that be too much red tape?

But the ME3-In-My-Head (and we all have them, don't lie) has Jack still being profane and violent, yet operating under a Shepard-instilled code of ethics.  And THAT's what I want to see in Jack in ME3.  She may never go pirate... But that can't stop her from going Robin Hood.

[Noilly Prat]

Maybe ME3 will let us school our squadmates in the ways of Spectredom, kinda like KOTOR 2 did with the Jedi training stuff or the party member specializations in Dragon Age.



Spectrehood for all! (?)



It would be pretty hilarious having a ship full of unauthorized Spectres, just cruising the galaxy and kicking ass.

[Occams Razor 17]

Noilly Prat wrote...
It would be pretty hilarious having a ship full of unauthorized Spectres, just cruising the galaxy and kicking ass.

So....like how things are already?  But with sticker badges saying "Spectre _____"!  I doubt Jack would actually write her name in the provided space..."Spectre _F_U!_"...

Modifié par Occams Razor 17, 16 mars 2010 - 10:08 .

[Mondo47]

Ilzairspar wrote...
Why yes it does sound like she'd make a wonderful Spectre...expecially since she doesn't exist legaly. 

Imagine the fun...

Salarian Councilor: I think congratulations are in order on completing your mission in the Kepler Verge.

Asari Councilor: Though was all the collateral damage unavoidable? The Batarian government is demanding reparations for the seventeen vessels that were destroyed when you destroyed the mass driver platform they had constructed in the system.

Jack: (shrugging) Hey, **** 'em.

Or...

Asari Councillor: Do not disconnect our transmissions again.

Jack: Are you going to apologise?

Asari Councillor: For what exactly?

Jack: Wrong answer. **** off. (disconnects channel)

Or even...

Turian Councillor: Ah yes, "Shadow-Striders" - incorporeal monsters from the "anti-universe"... we have dismissed this claim...

Jack: For ****'s sake...

Turian Councillor: Perhaps the time you spent around Commander Shepard has damaged your ability to reason?

Jack: You know... with you standing all the way over there, and me over here, you'd think I can't hit you... but you'd be so ****ing wrong.

A Keeper suddenly lifts into the air and sails across the Council Chamber, colliding with the Turian Councillor in a tangle of flailing limbs.

Jack: ****ing moron...

Krogan Councillor: Hah! I like this girl more than Shepard!

[NKKKK]

Mondo47 wrote...

Ilzairspar wrote...
Why yes it does sound like she'd make a wonderful Spectre...expecially since she doesn't exist legaly. 

Imagine the fun...

Salarian Councilor: I think congratulations are in order on completing your mission in the Kepler Verge.

Asari Councilor: Though was all the collateral damage unavoidable? The Batarian government is demanding reparations for the seventeen vessels that were destroyed when you destroyed the mass driver platform they had constructed in the system.

Jack: (shrugging) Hey, **** 'em.

Or...

Asari Councillor: Do not disconnect our transmissions again.

Jack: Are you going to apologise?

Asari Councillor: For what exactly?

Jack: Wrong answer. **** off. (disconnects channel)

Or even...

Turian Councillor: Ah yes, "Shadow-Striders" - incorporeal monsters from the "anti-universe"... we have dismissed this claim...

Jack: For ****'s sake...

Turian Councillor: Perhaps the time you spent around Commander Shepard has damaged your ability to reason?

Jack: You know... with you standing all the way over there, and me over here, you'd think I can't hit you... but you'd be so ****ing wrong.

A Keeper suddenly lifts into the air and sails across the Council Chamber, colliding with the Turian Councillor in a tangle of flailing limbs.

Jack: ****ing moron...

Krogan Councillor: Hah! I like this girl more than Shepard!

Lol Krogan councillor.

[procki]

Spectre Jack in:

"Airquote Overkill"

Turian Councilor: Ah yes, "Reapers" ...

Jack: "**** you"

Mordin: Your application of technique is flawed. Sometimes words are better suited than a knife. Make them see your point.

Grunt: Hah ! "Point".

"Her biggest fan"

Conrad: Oh, you are Jack, the second human Spectre. I am your biggest fan !

Jack: Why are you dressed like me? You don't really make that look work.

Conrad: Oh my wife is very supportive, she made it for me. She also paid for my tattoos.

Jack: Is that a Unicorn on your arm? .. Wait, is this permanent marker?

Conrad: I'm afraid of needles.

Jack: *shoots him in the foot*

[Booglarize]

Noilly Prat wrote...

Maybe ME3 will let us school our squadmates in the ways of Spectredom, kinda like KOTOR 2 did with the Jedi training stuff or the party member specializations in Dragon Age.

Spectrehood for all! (?)

It would be pretty hilarious having a ship full of unauthorized Spectres, just cruising the galaxy and kicking ass.

Hmm... that does sound fun but honestly, I'd much rather take over some random remote colony, secede from the council altogether and found my own miniature nation. Maybe name it after myself too... I'm thinking maybe Shepard Prime, New Shepardia or Shepardistan. 

Edit: And Jack would be my Minister of Defense, Offense, and General Awesomeness

Modifié par Booglarize, 16 mars 2010 - 10:30 .

[Mondo47]

Booglarize wrote...

Noilly Prat wrote...

Maybe ME3 will let us school our squadmates in the ways of Spectredom, kinda like KOTOR 2 did with the Jedi training stuff or the party member specializations in Dragon Age.

Spectrehood for all! (?)

It would be pretty hilarious having a ship full of unauthorized Spectres, just cruising the galaxy and kicking ass.

Hmm... that does sound fun but honestly, I'd much rather take over some random remote colony, secede from the council altogether and found my own miniature nation. Maybe name it after myself too... I'm thinking maybe Shepard Prime, New Shepardia or Shepardistan. 

Edit: And Jack would be my Minister of Defense, Offense, and General Awesomeness

Minister for Null-Gravity Sexual Experimentation

[gneissguy2003]

Mondo47 wrote...

Booglarize wrote...

Noilly Prat wrote...

Maybe ME3 will let us school our squadmates in the ways of Spectredom, kinda like KOTOR 2 did with the Jedi training stuff or the party member specializations in Dragon Age.

Spectrehood for all! (?)

It would be pretty hilarious having a ship full of unauthorized Spectres, just cruising the galaxy and kicking ass.

Hmm... that does sound fun but honestly, I'd much rather take over some random remote colony, secede from the council altogether and found my own miniature nation. Maybe name it after myself too... I'm thinking maybe Shepard Prime, New Shepardia or Shepardistan. 

Edit: And Jack would be my Minister of Defense, Offense, and General Awesomeness

Minister for Null-Gravity Sexual Experimentation

a.k.a. The Minister of Education?

[Booglarize]

Mondo47 wrote...

Minister for Null-Gravity Sexual Experimentation

Indeed, she's a great candidate for that cabinet position as well - though, I also deem her suitably qualified to head the Department for Killing People in Their Sleep. I can't imagine she'll have too much trouble multitasking, though.

All others will be assigned to the Bureau for Not Being as Cool as Jack. 

[Mondo47]

Booglarize wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Minister for Null-Gravity Sexual Experimentation

Indeed, she's a great candidate for that cabinet position as well - though, I also deem her suitably qualified to head the Department for Killing People in Their Sleep. I can't imagine she'll have too much trouble multitasking, though.

All others will be assigned to the Bureau for Not Being as Cool as Jack. 

Arf arf arf

Well, the opinion from the Other Half is more or less on the same rails as ours, though suitably base. So I more-or-less quote -

"Well I suppose Ashley has to be decent in bed; good looking, physically fit, lot of sisters and sisters always compete over guys. Tali's a virgin, so... enthusiastic but probably not that good considering it's not even like she's breaking in with her own species. Miranda's too good looking - total babes don't know how to work for it, they just lie there like an equally-sized bag of damp laundry. Liara probably doesn't even have a vagina, and if she does it'll be a vagina like no man has seen before. Jack's been around the block a few dozen times, and can either be sensitive and nice or a total sexfiend, and probably swings between both a lot. And is probably bi. And probably has few boundaries. And probably gets turned on by headaches.

Ergo, every real man should want Jack."

Don't worry - I handed out the smack around the ears

[procki]

Mondo47 wrote...

Arf arf arf

Well, the opinion from the Other Half is more or less on the same rails as ours, though suitably base. So I more-or-less quote -

"Well I suppose Ashley has to be decent in bed; good looking, physically fit, lot of sisters and sisters always compete over guys. Tali's a virgin, so... enthusiastic but probably not that good considering it's not even like she's breaking in with her own species. Miranda's too good looking - total babes don't know how to work for it, they just lie there like an equally-sized bag of damp laundry. Liara probably doesn't even have a vagina, and if she does it'll be a vagina like no man has seen before. Jack's been around the block a few dozen times, and can either be sensitive and nice or a total sexfiend, and probably swings between both a lot. And is probably bi. And probably has few boundaries. And probably gets turned on by headaches.

Ergo, every real man should want Jack."

Don't worry - I handed out the smack around the ears

the verdict on Ashley sounds quite positive too

[Jackal904]

royceclemens wrote...

But the ME3-In-My-Head (and we all have them, don't lie) has Jack still being profane and violent, yet operating under a Shepard-instilled code of ethics.  And THAT's what I want to see in Jack in ME3.  She may never go pirate... But that can't stop her from going Robin Hood.

I agree. Well put.

[Noilly Prat]

Mordin can head up my Ministry of Culture and Cultural Genocide.

[Booglarize]

 "...a vagina like no man has seen before..."

For some reason, I'm hearing that phrase in the voice of Patrick Stewart, ala his little voiceover bit at the beginning of episodes of The Next Generation. 

"To boldly go..."

Modifié par Booglarize, 16 mars 2010 - 11:50 .

[Mondo47]

Booglarize wrote...

 "...a vagina like no man has seen before..."

For some reason, I'm hearing that phrase in the voice of Patrick Stewart, ala his little voiceover bit at the beginning of episodes of The Next Generation. 

"To boldly go..."

I think that was his idea... bloody smartass that he is. He did actually say where it might be, and my response was "Giger much?" - I left a few comments out due to internet decorum, including one about Miranda that was just plain offensive and one about Jack that was the product of watching my box-set of Oz

Slappage earned

[piperone]

Finally found the Jack support thread. I cannot resist her in this game. Tali - never had an interest in fork feet. Miranda - eye candy but she's probably watching you for TIM - even after the relay. Jack, love her comments and she has an interesting story. First play through I missed her. She's with me all the time now regardless of enemy.



Jack + ME3 = Yup, so f**k you.

[Mondo47]

piperone wrote...

Finally found the Jack support thread. I cannot resist her in this game. Tali - never had an interest in fork feet. Miranda - eye candy but she's probably watching you for TIM - even after the relay. Jack, love her comments and she has an interesting story. First play through I missed her. She's with me all the time now regardless of enemy.

Jack + ME3 = Yup, so f**k you.

'Fork-Feet'... I like it

[royceclemens]

Jackal904 wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

But the ME3-In-My-Head (and we all have them, don't lie) has Jack still being profane and violent, yet operating under a Shepard-instilled code of ethics.  And THAT's what I want to see in Jack in ME3.  She may never go pirate... But that can't stop her from going Robin Hood.

I agree. Well put.

Thank you.

[Jackal904]

piperone wrote...

Finally found the Jack support thread. I cannot resist her in this game. Tali - never had an interest in fork feet. Miranda - eye candy but she's probably watching you for TIM - even after the relay. Jack, love her comments and she has an interesting story. First play through I missed her. She's with me all the time now regardless of enemy.

Jack + ME3 = Yup, so f**k you.

Haha that's pretty much how I feel. I have zero interest in romancing anyone else in any playthroughs as male Shepard. I wouldn't even romance someone else out of curiosity. I just look up youtube videos of other squadmate's romance dialogue if I'm curious enough. And I always bring her with me no matter what. I romanced her on my first playthrough though. I went into ME2 for the first time with the strong intention of romancing Tali and that flew out the window after doing Jack's loyalty mission. She better be a squadmate in ME3 or I will be pissed.

[Mondo47]

Ok, think back a few pages... when I talked about my 'wedding dress' image... weeeell, I've decided to do something with it. Bear in mind I'm a painfully slow artist (lifemodels hated me) and I've got no supplies hanging about the place these days (and I've not had a working tablet for months, so I'll have to invest eventually in a new one, but my studies and family have come first for a while now... blahblahblah excuses excuses ), so don't expect anything in a rush... but...

Yeah, I think we need some anti-wedding-dress action in this thread

So, does anyone know what a C-Sec patrol cruiser looks like? And I know this is pushing it, but do any of those prelim-designs of Jack include her legs under the overalls? Or am I going to have to try and make up what's tattooed there? And since she's going to be in a hacked-off skirt... dare I ask you lot about what kind of underwear is Jack? Actually, I think I'll put her in y-fronts as a homage to Sid Vicious... skip that question...

Ohboy... this is scary already!

[BobbyTheI]

Mondo47 wrote...

Ok, think back a few pages... when I talked about my 'wedding dress' image... weeeell, I've decided to do something with it. Bear in mind I'm a painfully slow artist (lifemodels hated me) and I've got no supplies hanging about the place these days (and I've not had a working tablet for months, so I'll have to invest eventually in a new one, but my studies and family have come first for a while now... blahblahblah excuses excuses ), so don't expect anything in a rush... but...

Yeah, I think we need some anti-wedding-dress action in this thread

So, does anyone know what a C-Sec patrol cruiser looks like? And I know this is pushing it, but do any of those prelim-designs of Jack include her legs under the overalls? Or am I going to have to try and make up what's tattooed there? And since she's going to be in a hacked-off skirt... dare I ask you lot about what kind of underwear is Jack? Actually, I think I'll put her in y-fronts as a homage to Sid Vicious... skip that question...

Ohboy... this is scary already!

I'm very intrigued, and am awaiting with baited breath.  I've always said there's been a lack of some quality Jack artwork (axl's and maybe two or three others I can think of), so I wouldn't mind seeing more folks take a stab at it.

As far as her legs, I haven't exactly been scouring the web for concept art, but I can't recall any that didn't have the prison coveralls covering her down there, so you'll just have to extrapolate.

[Heyalrey]

Mondo47 wrote...

dare I ask you lot about what kind of underwear is Jack? 

Well the obvious answer doesn't lend itself to pg-13 fan art, so I think you should probably go with the Sid Vicious idea.

[Mondo47]

BobbyTheI wrote...

As far as her legs, I haven't exactly been scouring the web for concept art, but I can't recall any that didn't have the prison coveralls covering her down there, so you'll just have to extrapolate.

Balls... ok, she's getting a short version of my friend Lou's tattoo... snake skeleton around one leg, more lines, circuit-board stuff... I'll only really have thighs to deal with thanks to the huge boots. I'll give her a Claymore for photogenic's sake too... love how boxy and ugly that thing is.

And I'll have to work the blue-stuff into it somewhere... bloody biotics...