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[kumquats]

Jack is so full of rage, but that's what makes the tender moments so much more meaningful.



But why do I like the renegade 'romance' option so much and why can't I use flycam?

[android654]

good looking shepard by the way.

[BobbyTheI]

kumquats wrote...

But why do I like the renegade 'romance' option so much and why can't I use flycam?

Indeed.  My icon is from the renegade scene, because as nice as it is to be the good guy and get to know Jack, that scene is... quite aesthetically pleasing.  :innocent:

I'll admit, part of what I'm hoping to see in ME3 is the dynamic of the Shepard/Jack relationship a few months in, once she's gotten past the initial uncomfortableness of it, realizes that this guy is here to stay, and a scene like that might be playing out on a regular basis.  Maybe get some of those "inventive uses of mass effect fields" that Mordin was discussing and...

Um, okay, perviness over.  So, hey, that Jack, huh?  Really complex personality, interesting character arc, huh?

[Ymladdych]

Modifié par Ymladdych, 28 septembre 2011 - 01:42 .

[kumquats]

Ymladdych wrote...

android654 wrote...

good looking shepard by the way.

I was thinking the same thing.  Kudos, kumquats.

Thanks. First I was sad I had to redo the Jack romance, because it was bugged
in my playthrough, but it turned out to be a lot of fun.



It should be easy to write a character arc for Jack. She is an extreme
character, with huge trust issues.

In ME3 she should learn that she can indeed count on Shepard and the crew to
have her back.

That doesn't mean she will loose her potty mouth or her anger.

And it would totally crack me up if she starts mocking my Paragon, it could be
her idea of flirting.

Modifié par kumquats, 22 mai 2011 - 07:20 .

[GOALISTAIR]

I'm curious to see how Jack will interact with Shepard's past LI. Will it be awkward or will she play it cool? I cant wait to see how that is going to play out.

[Goat_Shepard]

lolwut666 wrote...
That's because that's her crucial moment for character development. You can either encourage her to embrace her violent tendencies - at which point she'll be happy she killed Aresh 'cause she is still evil - or you can persuade her to let him leave, and that will make her a better person by consequence, and in the end she'll recognize that killing him would probably be a waste of time.

It's not the same person having two different opinions; it's two different people with two different opinions (not literaly, of course).

Indeed, but if I wanted to do what Jack wants instead of what I think it is best, I can't decide which outcome to choose. The fact that she wants to kill him for the sake of sparing children and not for revenge shouldn't set her on some dark path.  I usually go paragon, but I wonder if the act of killing him is a burden even though it was part of her closure.

kumquats wrote...
Jack is so full of rage, but that's what makes the tender moments so much more meaningful.
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QFT. Nice Shepard.

But why do I like the renegade 'romance' option so much and why can't I use flycam? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/unsure.png[/smilie]

Indeed, why do you? I tried a few renegade lines but never "walked the path". I heard it's steamy.

BobbyTheI wrote...
I'll admit, part of what I'm hoping to see in ME3 is the dynamic of the Shepard/Jack relationship a few months in, once she's gotten past the initial uncomfortableness of it, realizes that this guy is here to stay, and a scene like that might be playing out on a regular basis.  Maybe get some of those "inventive uses of mass effect fields" that Mordin was discussing and...

I bet you do.

It would be funny if Shepard actually took Mordin seriously in some regards. Investing in some padded walls in the cabin earning a "what the f*ck" from Jack and explaining that it was Mordin's suggestion

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 22 mai 2011 - 11:50 .

[Goat_Shepard]

kumquats wrote...
In ME3 she should learn that she can indeed count on Shepard and the crew to
have her back.

That doesn't mean she will loose her potty mouth or her anger.

And it would totally crack me up if she starts mocking my Paragon, it could be
her idea of flirting.

That's exactly how I see it. She's arguably the least trustworthy but depending on how ME2 ends that changes (for me anyway) , and to see a mutual trust develop between her and Shepard in the next game would be invigorating. I also hope your correct about Jack still retaining her naughty words and hot-headedness, these qualities cannot be oversighted! Mocking your paragon is also a must.

GOALISTAIR wrote...
I'm curious to see how Jack will interact with Shepard's past LI. Will it be awkward or will she play it cool? I cant wait to see how that is going to play out.

I just hope that instead of getting something like this, I can go with this.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 23 mai 2011 - 12:29 .

[KawaiiKatie]

Okay, this has probably been discussed, but I've never not romanced Jack before today, so I didn't know that this was a problem.

Why doesn't Jack do friendship?

Seriously, I've never not romanced her. (Okay that's a lie--I have a gay manShep who never talked to any female, including Jack, because he didn't want to trip and fall into a heterosexual relationship.) But my most recent play-through is a Kaidan-loyal femShep (first time playing femShep! woo!) who's trying to be friendly with her entire crew.

But then what do I get? "Sorry, Shepard, but I'm not a 'girls club' kind of person."

What does that even mean?! I was just trying to be nice to her!

And, you know, I could probably handle that if she left it at "I like you, let's just stop there" but NO, any time I try to talk to her, she gets all upset and says, "You're just pissing around!" like I'm some sort of SEXUAL PREDATOR. SERIOUSLY? I'm almost worried that Kaidan is going to accuse me of cheating on him even though I didn't DO anything.

I just... ugh. I get that Jack doesn't "believe" in friendship or whatever, but she could at least be neutral towards femShep if femShep does nothing but nice things for Jack. Maybe she could say, "Nothing's on my mind" all neutral-like instead of "YOU'RE PISSING AROUND, AND I DON'T WANNA PLAY!"

I guess I'll just stick to Jackmances from now on...

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 23 mai 2011 - 04:46 .

[Labrev]

Yeah, I found that a bit disappointing when I played femshep. It's not like I had a "girls club" kind of character there either. I was a brutal, calculating individual.

Last conversation I had with her:
"Hey."
"I should go."
"Whatever."

[Epantiras]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

But then what do I get? "Sorry, Shepard, but I'm not a 'girls club' kind of person."

What does that even mean?! I was just trying to be nice to her!

It means that Jack still believes that anyone who's nice to her just wants to use her for biotics and/or sex.
That's sad

[SPOILER]
I hope that non-romanced Jack will finally have a friendship path in ME3. Casey Hudson twittered that "ME3 writing team has some great ideas for breaking the mold on char. interactions, which should add to non romance relationship."

Modifié par Epantiras, 23 mai 2011 - 08:04 .

[KawaiiKatie]

Epantiras wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...

But then what do I get? "Sorry, Shepard, but I'm not a 'girls club' kind of person."

What does that even mean?! I was just trying to be nice to her!

It means that Jack still believes that anyone who's nice to her just wants to use her for biotics and/or sex.
That's sad

I just... I mean... ugh. It is sad. And I hate how ambigous it is. It could either mean "I'm not interested in you sexually" or it could mean "I'm not interested in forming a Girl Group with you and Ginger Spice, so go take a hike." Either way, there's no way to argue against it, and if you try to talk to her again, she gets upset with you.

Seriously, I'm just going to stick to romancing her with manShep.

....and Kaidan better not accuse me of trying to get into Jack's pants. BECAUSE I WASN'T! Lies, I tell you! Lies!

[lolwut666]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Indeed, but if I wanted to do what Jack wants instead of what I think it is best, I can't decide which outcome to choose. The fact that she wants to kill him for the sake of sparing children and not for revenge shouldn't set her on some dark path.  I usually go paragon, but I wonder if the act of killing him is a burden even though it was part of her closure.

That's not how I saw it. To me, itseemed like she just *really* wanted to kill him no matter what, and was just using that as an excuse for what she was about to do.

And it's also about showing her that not every problem needs to be solved through killing. It's kinda similar to Garrus' situation with Sidonis, actually.

[axl99]

This is caption worthy.

Modifié par axl99, 23 mai 2011 - 01:09 .

[android654]

best amusement park ride ever.

[V-rex]

BobbyTheI wrote...



I'll admit, part of what I'm hoping to see in ME3 is the dynamic of the Shepard/Jack relationship a few months in, once she's gotten past the initial uncomfortableness of it, realizes that this guy is here to stay, and a scene like that might be playing out on a regular basis.  Maybe get some of those "inventive uses of mass effect fields" that Mordin was discussing and..

It depends a bit though, doesn't it? I mean Jack's had such a long and troubling life, it may take time before she's fully ready to be trusting of Shepard enough to let her guard down and feel comfortable and begin the wild craziness of her old life just with the person she'd now identify as her partner.

Still all the same, it would be interesting to see where she goes in her new life after the whole emotional barrier has become more lenient and she's fully trusting of Shepard, and who knows? Maybe she and he would start with wild shenangans.

Or it'll be much clamer and much more paced then it used to be in response to the change in her lifestyle.
Either way, it should be fun finding out which it is.

[Goat_Shepard]

lolwut666 wrote...
That's not how I saw it. To me, itseemed like she just *really* wanted to kill him no matter what, and was just using that as an excuse for what she was about to do.

And it's also about showing her that not every problem needs to be solved through killing. It's kinda similar to Garrus' situation with Sidonis, actually.

You could be right, and I think it's a little of both. It may be an excuse, but unlike the situation with Sidonis, Jack wasn't planning on killing anyone, so I'm inclined to believe she was being mostly selfless when the first thing she says is "he wants to restart this place!". When you go paragon and say "your past doesn't need to control you" and the way she says "f*ck" in agreement makes me think at least a part of her wanted to kill him for personal reasons, and I don't blame her. It won't consume her, imo, he was just more baggage from Teltin that gets dumped whether he dies at her hands or not.

yorkj86 wrote...
Those children aren't the only people she's shown sympathy for, so she's capable of empathy and sympathy.

Indeed. She showed that on Legions LM and Horizon. I think Jacob's LM too but I don't remember. And then of course Murtock. Anywhere else?

axl99 wrote...

This is caption worthy.
snp

Let's see if anyone gets the reference.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 23 mai 2011 - 02:59 .

[Goat_Shepard]

This is so much fun. Besides the odd lighting.





Jack seriously OWNS that clubbin scene. Now pretend the fire is hair, mmmhmmm

[zvbxrpl]

Epantiras wrote...
Ok, shall the videogame Lord forgive me, because I know you Jackolytes won't.

I've noticed that the image above is disturbingly similar to something else I've seen around the Internet.
I've edited a little to make the similarity even more visible.



This is probably a relative of Trollface Miranda social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/2004874/525#7314114  

Feel free to use it whenever you need to express your rage!

I think we need a Jacob FOREVER ALONE to round out the squaddie meme-face set.  Sadly I am a butt with photoshop.

[Epantiras]

zvbxrpl wrote...
I think we need a Jacob FOREVER ALONE to round out the squaddie meme-face set.  Sadly I am a butt with photoshop.

Shall Jacobmancers have mercy upon me...

[Epantiras]

Sundown Native wrote...

Well...My canon FemShep romanced him. He's not ENTIRELY alone.

And truth be told, if you think about the Thane/Garrus/Jacob trio, Jacob is the only one who offers the "good stuff" without health risks like hallucinations, rash and CHAFING [insert silly pic of Mordin saying that word].

Poor Jacob, if only FemShep wasn't such a coguar when she talks to him...

Anyway, let's not forget this is the Jack thread :-)

[Jedi Master of Orion]

You know I don't think I really noticed Jacobs natural "Cougar activation field" until people started pointing it out.

[SlottsMachine]

 "Cougar activation field" 

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Funny. 

Modifié par GeneralSlotts193, 23 mai 2011 - 08:24 .