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[Mondo47]

Heyalrey wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

dare I ask you lot about what kind of underwear is Jack? 

Well the obvious answer doesn't lend itself to pg-13 fan art, so I think you should probably go with the Sid Vicious idea.

Don't worry, I think we thought the same there on both counts

[Booglarize]

Mondo47 wrote...

Yeah, I think we need some anti-wedding-dress action in this thread

I fully endorse this idea... I never could quite stomach traditional wedding attire myself. 

[BobbyTheI]

Booglarize wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Yeah, I think we need some anti-wedding-dress action in this thread

I fully endorse this idea... I never could quite stomach traditional wedding attire myself. 

I fully endorse a picture of Jack sticking up a wedding and making off with the gifts, but that's about it. 

[Booglarize]

  Hah, that works too.

On a side note, I'm hacking my way through Awakening at the moment, and man is it one hell of a sausage-fest right now. I wish there were some way to sneak Jack into Vigils Keep, just for a couple nights or so...

/yes, I know it's like a completely different universe, but still

Modifié par Booglarize, 17 mars 2010 - 05:06 .

[Jackal904]

BobbyTheI wrote...

Mondo47 wrote...

Ok, think back a few pages... when I talked about my 'wedding dress' image... weeeell, I've decided to do something with it. Bear in mind I'm a painfully slow artist (lifemodels hated me) and I've got no supplies hanging about the place these days (and I've not had a working tablet for months, so I'll have to invest eventually in a new one, but my studies and family have come first for a while now... blahblahblah excuses excuses ), so don't expect anything in a rush... but...

Yeah, I think we need some anti-wedding-dress action in this thread

So, does anyone know what a C-Sec patrol cruiser looks like? And I know this is pushing it, but do any of those prelim-designs of Jack include her legs under the overalls? Or am I going to have to try and make up what's tattooed there? And since she's going to be in a hacked-off skirt... dare I ask you lot about what kind of underwear is Jack? Actually, I think I'll put her in y-fronts as a homage to Sid Vicious... skip that question...

Ohboy... this is scary already!

I'm very intrigued, and am awaiting with baited breath.  I've always said there's been a lack of some quality Jack artwork (axl's and maybe two or three others I can think of), so I wouldn't mind seeing more folks take a stab at it.

As far as her legs, I haven't exactly been scouring the web for concept art, but I can't recall any that didn't have the prison coveralls covering her down there, so you'll just have to extrapolate.

Well maybe she has no tattoos on her legs. It's clear she wants to show off all her tattoos, so if she had some tattoos on her legs you'd think she'd want to show them off. I think it's very likely she has no tattoos on her legs.

Booglarize wrote...

  Hah, that works too.

On a side note, I'm hacking my way through Awakening at the moment, and man is it one hell of a sausage-fest right now. I wish there were some way to sneak Jack into Vigils Keep, just for a couple nights or so...

/yes, I know it's like a completely different universe, but still

Haha I've thought the same thing while playing Dragon Age. I stop and think, "Man I wish Jack was here..." I may have even thought that in other games, I'm not sure. But now that I mentioned it I will probably start doing that . I'll be playing Perfect Dark tomarrow when it comes out on XBLA and stop and think, "Man I wish Jack was here..."

[Mkrgross]

Booglarize wrote...

  Hah, that works too.

On a side note, I'm hacking my way through Awakening at the moment, and man is it one hell of a sausage-fest right now. I wish there were some way to sneak Jack into Vigils Keep, just for a couple nights or so...

/yes, I know it's like a completely different universe, but still

Funny you should mention that, I've been thinking the same thing. On that note, no matter how many times I have played through ME2 with Jack in my squad, I still smile, if not chuckle, at her lines. Her remarks are just so damn honest.

[Barrendall]

Sorry if this has been brought up before in this thread (I haven't read every page) but does anyone think that there is anyone else besides Shepard on the ship that Jack would even have a passing conversation with? (Fighting with Miranda doesn't count) Grunt is the only other one on board that I can think of that would have a minutiae of a shot of respect in her eyes. "Shrug"

[BobbyTheI]

Barrendall111 wrote...

Sorry if this has been brought up before in this thread (I haven't read every page) but does anyone think that there is anyone else besides Shepard on the ship that Jack would even have a passing conversation with? (Fighting with Miranda doesn't count) Grunt is the only other one on board that I can think of that would have a minutiae of a shot of respect in her eyes. "Shrug"

Heh.  I've read some stories that have had Jack and Zaeed sharing snark with each other, and although I doubt a fugitive would be that quick to chat with a bounty hunter, I like the idea of the two of them trading smirky comments with each other.

Really, though, maybe Jack will feel more chatty after the events of ME2, but during... she makes a big deal out of wanting to be stuck in some dark hole, and I doubt she strayed too far from it.

[royceclemens]

Oh, Jack and Grunt could take their act on the road. No question about that. Very gory comedy stylings.

Jacob might say "Hi" on occasion. She'd scare the crap out of Tali. Samara would try to kill her as soon as the mission's over. Zaeed would bore her with old stories. Other than that, I can't see her really talking to anyone.

Modifié par royceclemens, 17 mars 2010 - 05:53 .

[Occams Razor 17]

royceclemens wrote...

Oh, Jack and Grunt could take their act on the road. No question about that. Very gory comedy stylings.

Jacob might say "Hi" on occasion. She'd scare the crap out of Tali. Samara would try to kill her as soon as the mission's over. Zaeed would bore her with old stories. Other than that, I can't see her really talking to anyone.

It's amusing picturing her stuck in a conversation with Mordin though...

[gneissguy2003]

What about with Joker? Maybe not since Joker probably is scared s**tless by her, but they're both smartasses to one degree or another. Joker's sense of humor is just slightly more PG-13 than Jack's probably is.

Modifié par gneissguy2003, 17 mars 2010 - 05:58 .

[Barrendall]

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

Oh, Jack and Grunt could take their act on the road. No question about that. Very gory comedy stylings.

Jacob might say "Hi" on occasion. She'd scare the crap out of Tali. Samara would try to kill her as soon as the mission's over. Zaeed would bore her with old stories. Other than that, I can't see her really talking to anyone.

It's amusing picturing her stuck in a conversation with Mordin though...

Heh it would be funny

[Mkrgross]

Barrendall111 wrote...

Sorry if this has been brought up before in this thread (I haven't read every page) but does anyone think that there is anyone else besides Shepard on the ship that Jack would even have a passing conversation with? (Fighting with Miranda doesn't count) Grunt is the only other one on board that I can think of that would have a minutiae of a shot of respect in her eyes. "Shrug"

I don't ever see Jack getting along with Miranda. Samara and Garrus have too much of a sense of justice. I can see Jack and Tali being cordial, but nothing deep. Zaeed seems to like her, and I can see them sharing war stories. Jacob, ahh Jacob, he is duller than a box of rocks. Grunt and Jack would quickly get along. I think that after a little time Jack and Joker would be cracking up the crew. I don't know what to think of Thane. Who doesn't get along with Mordin.

[Epantiras]

royceclemens wrote...

Samara would try to kill her as soon as the mission's over.

Unless we stop her first!

[Jackal904]

Barrendall111 wrote...

Sorry if this has been brought up before in this thread (I haven't read every page) but does anyone think that there is anyone else besides Shepard on the ship that Jack would even have a passing conversation with? (Fighting with Miranda doesn't count) Grunt is the only other one on board that I can think of that would have a minutiae of a shot of respect in her eyes. "Shrug"

I've been thinking the same thing. I figure they would get a long pretty well since they have similar... passions. Plus Grunt seems very indifferent to everyone and I don't think he would judge Jack or be intimidated by her like the others. And I just picture them getting a long really well.

Epantiras wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

Samara would try to kill her as soon as the mission's over.

Unless we stop her first!

Hmmm I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up happening. You'd end up having to choose Samara or Jack. It'd obviously be a very easy decision for me .

Modifié par Jackal904, 17 mars 2010 - 11:59 .

[Mondo47]

Jack and crew interactions? You should probably call it Jack vs. The Crew

Jack and Grunt couldn't not get on, really... they both were 'made' what they are, they both admire Shepard in their own ways, and they both have a 'take no **** and take no prisoners' attitude. They like a good fight. And while they'd probably disagree over the semantics of various issues, it'd probably go no further than a "Yeah, whatever," and it's on to the next one.

While she could appreciate Thane's skill, I doubt she'd respond to his spirituality with anything other than cynicism, perhaps suggesting that he uses it as an excuse or an emotional crutch for his actions. Jack's a realist; if she can't see it, hear it or steal it, it's not really worthwhile. And if you had her experiences with a cult, or hell, her childhood, would you buy any kind of spirituality? If any kind of God showed up to you, you'd knock their teeth out before you took a knee.

Jack and Miri... oh, I don't see that ever working. Even if Miranda got off her high horse, Jack wouldn't get off hers. I don't even think Jack would accept an apology from her; it'd be too much like giving in, or it'd be too great a risk of opening herself to exploitation again. Even if Miranda went on a demolitions spree at Cerberus bases, it'd never be enough. Some things don't heal. Ever.

I think almost everyone else on board ship would be ignored. She might exchange words if she feels like it with Zaeed (because of his career choices) or Tali or Garrus (because they've known Shepard for longer) but outside of those conversations on her own terms, Jack seems likely to just walk by people. No acknowledgements, no thank-yous, no pleases. If she wants something, she helps herself to it, and once she has it, it's hers; she goes up to the women's washroom and another woman walks in, they at best will get bawled out, at worst will end up sat outside with a broken nose. You bump into her, you get bounced off a wall. And if you open your mouth... chances are the Varren is coming off the leash.

On the other side of the coin though, places with a lot of people, like the mess hall, would be one of the few things that would scare her. People with experience of prison messes don't react well to sharing personal space (hell, prison period does that to people). Someone offers her something out of simple politeness will find themselves eating it, someone staring at her a second too long will find tabletop added to their diet. As soon as it's done though, Jack would know it was an incorrect reaction; a stain from prison life making itself known on autopilot. So, she would avoid any confrontations; slope up at the end of the day and eat whatever was leftover, taking a tray back downstairs with her or only sitting in the mess when absolutely no-one was around, or eating only when Grunt was there (as he's bound to clear the mess... regular folk don't find Krogan relaxing company) or if Shep dragged her ass in there (and even then she'd act up and **** until the endurance test was over). There's probably a small mountain of trays slung behind all those pipes below engineering. After a few months down there it would probably be more of a mess than your average collegeboy's pad.

Oddly enough though, I think Samara would be the one person on the ship besides Shepard that would understand Jack. She may be bound be her Code, but she could certainly appreciate what has made Jack into the woman she is. She'd probably feel deeply sad for her, seeing someone too damaged to function any other way, too weak to have made any other choices that stand on the higher moral path. Samara would almost certainly see though that Jack and the Normandy (or Jack and Shepard if the Shep is male and pursuing her) is something close to therapy; a chance to finally be someone outside of the shadows of the past. She would watch closely, but I doubt she would intervene without giving Shepard some prior warning. Besides, it would be all too easy for her to react in similar ways to Thane or Zaeed, who have also made lives for themselves outside of the natural realm of law and order. Samara on the Normandy has to know when to ease off, unless something's done in front of her I'd suppose.

Just my take, 'tis all :happy:

[Ilzairspar]

So a bit off topic but aparently they ARE thinking of doing a Romance Pack DLC.


kotaku.com/5495405/mass-effect-dragon-age-creators-consider-the-post+release-romance-pack

BTW does anyone know anything about the 2 squadmates marked as classified on the ME2 webpage?  They aren't Kasumi and our favorite Merc since those two's names are already there.

Modifié par Ilzairspar, 17 mars 2010 - 03:32 .

[Mondo47]

Ilzairspar wrote...

So a bit off topic but aparently they ARE thinking of doing a Romance Pack DLC.


kotaku.com/5495405/mass-effect-dragon-age-creators-consider-the-post+release-romance-pack

Ye Gods, they are reading what we write here... terror begins to gel in my veins at the prospect of Tali in a wedding veil

"Take Leliana on a date" pack... yeah, good luck - I'm bloody dead and I doubt she's into necrophilia (even if everything else is game). And you bastards made me lie to her and say I was going to come back for her! I hate you, Bioware

Ok, now it's all out in the open now... why I hated the end of DA:O so much... I'm gonna go cry for a bit

[Mondo47]

Ilzairspar wrote...

BTW does anyone know anything about the 2 squadmates marked as classified on the ME2 webpage?  They aren't Kasumi and our favorite Merc since those two's names are already there.

Legion and Garrus have no files it seems...

[Ilzairspar]

Mondo47 wrote...

Ilzairspar wrote...

BTW does anyone know anything about the 2 squadmates marked as classified on the ME2 webpage?  They aren't Kasumi and our favorite Merc since those two's names are already there.

Legion and Garrus have no files it seems...

Ah that makes sense, after all Garrus is "Archangel" and Legion is a bit of a 'suprise'.

[royceclemens]

If this is true, I pity the poor Miranda fans who aren't getting one. I'm not saying this out of spite, but her show got picked up for another season. She's gonna be busy.



Which means MORE JACOB FOR THE REST OF US!



But seriously, if they are planning on this, I hope they bring Jack's original writer back. No one else can do her dialogue.

[Ilzairspar]

Mondo47 wrote...

Ilzairspar wrote...

So a bit off topic but aparently they ARE thinking of doing a Romance Pack DLC.


kotaku.com/5495405/mass-effect-dragon-age-creators-consider-the-post+release-romance-pack

Ye Gods, they are reading what we write here... terror begins to gel in my veins at the prospect of Tali in a wedding veil

"Take Leliana on a date" pack... yeah, good luck - I'm bloody dead and I doubt she's into necrophilia (even if everything else is game). And you bastards made me lie to her and say I was going to come back for her! I hate you, Bioware

Ok, now it's all out in the open now... why I hated the end of DA:O so much... I'm gonna go cry for a bit

Hey they could probably get people to pay for the amount of stuf they could make someone hunting Moragan down after the game do.

I'm just hoping for the 'character dlc' missions we were talking about earlier in the thread.  Or at least something new for Jack to say after the collector mission is over.

[Ilzairspar]

royceclemens wrote...

If this is true, I pity the poor Miranda fans who aren't getting one. I'm not saying this out of spite, but her show got picked up for another season. She's gonna be busy.

Which means MORE JACOB FOR THE REST OF US!

But seriously, if they are planning on this, I hope they bring Jack's original writer back. No one else can do her dialogue.

I don't know, they might make it a little more linear to ease the number of lines she has to say.  Depending on things she might be able to pull it off as a one day session.

I'd expect her's to be one of the last one though, since as you said, her show got picked up for another season.

[Mondo47]

Leliana was nice, and you made me lie to her! And who's going to take care of my dog? Yeah, I'm still crying here

I think a 'romance pack' as outlined in the thread that covers the concept in the forums is a neat idea if it's handled right and it treats all the ME romances in a loyal and equal light. The people that stayed faithful will want a reconciliation with Liara, Ash or Kaidan, and the folk that made out like bandits with Tali, Jack, Miranda, Garrus, Jacob and Thane will expect the same. If they are willing and able to support it to the degree it deserves, I'm for it.

Awkward date with Tali on the Citadel - racist waiter, problems with re-enacting the scene from Lady & The Tramp due to food compatability problems, what happens when Tali gets loaded.

Awkward date with Miranda on Illium - Shep isn't all that up on etiquette, bill is about 200,000 credits, Miranda's father owns the restaurant.

Awkward date with Jack on the Citadel - Shep and Jack take in the new version of Casablanca... alas, it's the Elcor version, Jack thinks the private box is an ideal place for sex and has brought a grenade belt with her to avoid complete boredom.

I've gone through at least one of these possible situations, so I can vouch for their realism

[Booglarize]

Mondo47 wrote...

Ilzairspar wrote...

So a bit off topic but aparently they ARE thinking of doing a Romance Pack DLC.


kotaku.com/5495405/mass-effect-dragon-age-creators-consider-the-post+release-romance-pack

Ye Gods, they are reading what we write here... terror begins to gel in my veins at the prospect of Tali in a wedding veil

"Take Leliana on a date" pack... yeah, good luck - I'm bloody dead and I doubt she's into necrophilia (even if everything else is game). And you bastards made me lie to her and say I was going to come back for her! I hate you, Bioware

Ok, now it's all out in the open now... why I hated the end of DA:O so much... I'm gonna go cry for a bit

As a Morrigan lover myself (Morriganmancer? Morrigancer? No, that doesn't sound quite right), I would be quite annoyed if BioWare doesn't do something to provide some closure to that little chapter. I'd like to happen in a proper expansion or sequel though - but I guess DLC would be better than nothing. 

I really wish the Dragon Age people would adopt something closer to the Mass Effect approach, at least in terms of being sure whether they want to continue the same story from one game to the next, or completely start over with the next instalment. The "little from column A, little from column B" route they went with for Awakening isn't really doing it for me.