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[BobbyTheI]

I'm going to be watching any developments with this with great interest.

Partly because of the content, yes, but mostly because whatever content or lack of content gets developed for Jack will be a good indicator of her future in ME3.  I've got this little worry that, if this does indeed come to fruition, we're going to see a blurb like, "ROMANCE PACK DLC COMING SOON:  Experience new conversations and relationship options with Tali and Miranda!" On the other hand, if they make new content for Jack, I'd say that's a pretty strong indicator they've got future plans for her.  Here's keeping fingers crossed.

[Booglarize]

I'm just trying not to get my hopes too high. I mean, boy are we going to be disappointed the "Romance Pack" comes out, and the only additions are two new cabin animations - in addition "awkward couch sitting" and "fully-clothed bed cuddling", you'll now have the "firm handshake" animation, and the ability to have your LI lying to your right instead of your left.

[gneissguy2003]

Booglarize wrote...

I'm just trying not to get my hopes too high. I mean, boy are we going to be disappointed the "Romance Pack" comes out, and the only additions are two new cabin animations - in addition "awkward couch sitting" and "fully-clothed bed cuddling", you'll now have the "firm handshake" animation, and the ability to have your LI lying to your right instead of your left.

Or possibly even cuddling in the nude!!...... while under the blankets. Though I do like the firm handshake idea. It's pretty win.

[BobbyTheI]

Booglarize wrote...

I'm just trying not to get my hopes too high. I mean, boy are we going to be disappointed the "Romance Pack" comes out, and the only additions are two new cabin animations - in addition "awkward couch sitting" and "fully-clothed bed cuddling", you'll now have the "firm handshake" animation, and the ability to have your LI lying to your right instead of your left.

"New in the romance pack for Mass Effect 2!  Shepard now occasionally BLINKS while giving his love interest a deadpan stare!  FEEL the PASSION!"

[royceclemens]

Ilzairspar wrote...

Epantiras wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

But seriously, if they are planning on this, I hope they bring Jack's original writer back. No one else can do her dialogue.

After reading this I assume Jack's original writer left Bioware, am I mistaken? I also remember something like Thane's lines being written by the same who did Ashley's and that he did leave Bioware.

I dont think we actually know if Jack's original writer is still with Bioware or not.

What I was trying to say was I hoped they didn't replace the original writer with someone else on the BioWare staff.  For all we know, the original writer may be doing something else now that ME2 is over.

If some other dude's words come out of Jack's mouth, we'll know.

As for the DLC itself, the only splintering I can see happening is releasing the male and female LIs seperately.  And though it is healthy to have caution, I think if it's coming for one, it's coming for all.

[Ilzairspar]

royceclemens wrote...


What I was trying to say was I hoped they didn't replace the original writer with someone else on the BioWare staff.  For all we know, the original writer may be doing something else now that ME2 is over.

If some other dude's words come out of Jack's mouth, we'll know.

As for the DLC itself, the only splintering I can see happening is releasing the male and female LIs seperately.  And though it is healthy to have caution, I think if it's coming for one, it's coming for all.

I've just got to keep myeslf calm about all this and take it all with a grain of salt.  I'm a Tabletop RPGer and LARPer with an almost unhealthy obsession with characterization so the idea of getting more character interaction makes me a bit hyper.

even if they don't get the same exact writer, if the 'feel' of her is the same it shoud be alright. 

you might be right about them spliting it for male and female LI, unless they decide to make all characters non-gender specific.  While that would make a lot of people happy, I think it might ruin it a bit. 

that's just my opinion though, to quote Joker.

[axl99]

Maybe the romance pack will make some use of the hidden shower room in Shepard's cabin.



Just throwin it out there.

[Seraphael]

royceclemens wrote...

Ilzairspar wrote...

Epantiras wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

But seriously, if they are planning on this, I hope they bring Jack's original writer back. No one else can do her dialogue.

After reading this I assume Jack's original writer left Bioware, am I mistaken? I also remember something like Thane's lines being written by the same who did Ashley's and that he did leave Bioware.

I dont think we actually know if Jack's original writer is still with Bioware or not.

What I was trying to say was I hoped they didn't replace the original writer with someone else on the BioWare staff.  For all we know, the original writer may be doing something else now that ME2 is over.

I believe Christina Norman stated Bioware would make an issue of keeping the same team for ME3.

If some other dude's words come out of Jack's mouth, we'll know.

Well, wouldn't it stand to reason Jack would be somewhat transformed by establishing a Paragon romantic relationship with Shepard? If Jack makes a comeback (and I pray she will), I hope Bioware has considered that aspect. I want any romance to be a continuation rather than a reset to the awkward first I-like-you, do-you-like-me moments.

As for the DLC itself, the only splintering I can see happening is releasing the male and female LIs seperately.  And though it is healthy to have caution, I think if it's coming for one, it's coming for all.

I'm loath to admit I'd actually purchase a LI-based DLC despite being highly sceptical to that sort of business practice. Hoping Bioware will create a seperate DLC team (so their efforts doesn't come at the cost of less content in the main game) for ME3 and that more DLCs are made available from launch.

[Mondo47]

Hey, since this is the 'romance pack'... perhaps something like this is a possibility - female bonding!


Operative Lawson's Quarters - 14:00 hours, standard operational duty hours...

Miranda's door hisses open - Jack enters:

Jack: I gotta talk to you about something.

Miranda: (testy) Do we really have to go through this again?

Jack: I... I don't mean that ****. It's something else.

Miranda: What else could you possibly want? You only ever drag yourself out of your pit to throw your weight around with people. I think part of you really gets off on being such a martyr -

Jack: Goddamnit, listen to me!

Miranda's couch lifts four feet off the ground. Miranda throws herself backwards out of her chair and enters a defensive posture. Jack screws her eyes shut and lowers her hand - the couch slowly returns to the ground.

Jack: Can we not do it like this? I'm ****ing tired of it...

Miranda: You're not the only one who's tired. How many times do I have to spell it out for you - I'm not with them anymore. It's done with. Over! I'm not to blame - I never was.

Jack: (yelling) It's not all about you! It's... about Shepard.

Miranda straightens up, pushes her hair back.

Miranda: What about him? Has he finally seen sense and told you to stop visiting him at close of duty?

Jack: Say something like that again and they'll need a sponge to clean you off that desk, ok? That's not a threat either, it's a fact... just ****ing listen... please?

Miranda: (a little shocked at the please) I... alright. Go on.

Jack: I know we have all this **** going on around us, the whole galaxy's gonna get blown to **** by the Reapers, Shepard's trying to get everyone to get their act together in time... and he's trying to make me work, y'know? Like a real person?

Miranda: Yes... he does rather have his hands full there.

Jack: How do I say thank you? And mean it. I... don't think I know how.

Miranda: Have you tried opening that big mouth of yours and just saying it?

Jack: I've tried... it, just comes out all wrong. It sounds like I'm just ****ing with him. Only other thing I can do is **** him, and that's good but it's not enough. I feel like I'm doing that for me.

Miranda: (sarcastically) Oh?

Jack: (mocking) Yeah. We cracked his fishtank last night. It's good, really good.

Miranda: My heart bleeds for you...

Jack: But it's wrong. I have to do more than that... that's too easy.

Miranda: You said it...

Jack scowls at Miranda, who smirks, then raises her hands.

Jack: I don't know how to tell him what I feel. I'm... I'm scared, ok? What if I don't say it and he leaves one day and never comes back? I can't cope with that. I just ****ing can't. It's... he makes me feel normal, ok? Like I don't have this damage hanging over me, over us. I don't want to be a burden to him, and that makes me just want to go, y'know? Just ****ing walk next time we hit port... but... if I do that...

Miranda: You'd just be running away? And you'd be losing something you want to keep?

Jack: (reluctantly) Yeah...

Miranda: You could try just being happy, you know? I know it's a daring concept, but you could just try accepting that for whatever deranged reason, Shepard likes you. God knows he's the only person on this ship that does, but he does. And if it was just sex he wanted, trust me, he could get it without half the baggage you haul around with you. And if he wanted to leave that badly, he knows where the airlock is.

Jack: So what would you do?

Miranda: I'd maybe take him somewhere special, sit him down, and I'd just tell him. I doubt he scares easily. He's seen you naked for starters...

Jack: ****.


Even the worst rivals can reach an understanding

Modifié par Mondo47, 17 mars 2010 - 09:58 .

[royceclemens]

Now that was just lovely. I like that.

[Mondo47]

I was listening to random MP3s and this came on, and it all just kind of clicked in my head. Thankew Uncle Royce

I ****ing love the eyeroll at the end of the video... "Pfffttt... never wanted him anyway..."

Someone should love the bad fairy as well as the good one too, I've always said that...

[Ilzairspar]

Mondo47 wrote...

Hey, since this is the 'romance pack'... perhaps something like this is a possibility - female bonding!


Operative Lawson's Quarters - 14:00 hours, standard operational duty hours...

Miranda's door hisses open - Jack enters:

Jack: I gotta talk to you about something.

Miranda: (testy) Do we really have to go through this again?

Jack: I... I don't mean that ****. It's something else.

Miranda: What else could you possibly want? You only ever drag yourself out of your pit to throw your weight around with people. I think part of you really gets off on being such a martyr -

Jack: Goddamnit, listen to me!

Miranda's couch lifts four feet off the ground. Miranda throws herself backwards out of her chair and enters a defensive posture. Jack screws her eyes shut and lowers her hand - the couch slowly returns to the ground.

Jack: Can we not do it like this? I'm ****ing tired of it...

Miranda: You're not the only one who's tired. How many times do I have to spell it out for you - I'm not with them anymore. It's done with. Over! I'm not to blame - I never was.

Jack: (yelling) It's not all about you! It's... about Shepard.

Miranda straightens up, pushes her hair back.

Miranda: What about him? Has he finally seen sense and told you to stop visiting him at close of duty?

Jack: Say something like that again and they'll need a sponge to clean you off that desk, ok? That's not a threat either, it's a fact... just ****ing listen... please?

Miranda: (a little shocked at the please) I... alright. Go on.

Jack: I know we have all this **** going on around us, the whole galaxy's gonna get blown to **** by the Reapers, Shepard's trying to get everyone to get their act together in time... and he's trying to make me work, y'know? Like a real person?

Miranda: Yes... he does rather have his hands full there.

Jack: How do I say thank you? And mean it. I... don't think I know how.

Miranda: Have you tried opening that big mouth of yours and just saying it?

Jack: I've tried... it, just comes out all wrong. It sounds like I'm just ****ing with him. Only other thing I can do is **** him, and that's good but it's not enough. I feel like I'm doing that for me.

Miranda: (sarcastically) Oh?

Jack: (mocking) Yeah. We cracked his fishtank last night. It's good, really good.

Miranda: My heart bleeds for you...

Jack: But it's wrong. I have to do more than that... that's too easy.

Miranda: You said it...

Jack scowls at Miranda, who smirks, then raises her hands.

Jack: I don't know how to tell him what I feel. I'm... I'm scared, ok? What if I don't say it and he leaves one day and never comes back? I can't cope with that. I just ****ing can't. It's... he makes me feel normal, ok? Like I don't have this damage hanging over me, over us. I don't want to be a burden to him, and that makes me just want to go, y'know? Just ****ing walk next time we hit port... but... if I do that...

Miranda: You'd just be running away? And you'd be losing something you want to keep?

Jack: (reluctantly) Yeah...

Miranda: You could try just being happy, you know? I know it's a daring concept, but you could just try accepting that for whatever deranged reason, Shepard likes you. God knows he's the only person on this ship that does, but he does. And if it was just sex he wanted, trust me, he could get it without half the baggage you haul around with you. And if he wanted to leave that badly, he knows where the airlock is.

Jack: So what would you do?

Miranda: I'd maybe take him somewhere special, sit him down, and I'd just tell him. I doubt he scares easily. He's seen you naked for starters...

Jack: ****.


Even the worst rivals can reach an understanding

And people say that Jackcentric fanfic can't happen 

J/K Jackal!

good writing Mondo

Modifié par Ilzairspar, 17 mars 2010 - 10:10 .

[Mkrgross]

Mondo47 wrote...

Hey, since this is the 'romance pack'... perhaps something like this is a possibility - female bonding!


Operative Lawson's Quarters - 14:00 hours, standard operational duty hours...

Miranda's door hisses open - Jack enters:

Jack: I gotta talk to you about something.

Miranda: (testy) Do we really have to go through this again?

Jack: I... I don't mean that ****. It's something else.

Miranda: What else could you possibly want? You only ever drag yourself out of your pit to throw your weight around with people. I think part of you really gets off on being such a martyr -

Jack: Goddamnit, listen to me!

Miranda's couch lifts four feet off the ground. Miranda throws herself backwards out of her chair and enters a defensive posture. Jack screws her eyes shut and lowers her hand - the couch slowly returns to the ground.

Jack: Can we not do it like this? I'm ****ing tired of it...

Miranda: You're not the only one who's tired. How many times do I have to spell it out for you - I'm not with them anymore. It's done with. Over! I'm not to blame - I never was.

Jack: (yelling) It's not all about you! It's... about Shepard.

Miranda straightens up, pushes her hair back.

Miranda: What about him? Has he finally seen sense and told you to stop visiting him at close of duty?

Jack: Say something like that again and they'll need a sponge to clean you off that desk, ok? That's not a threat either, it's a fact... just ****ing listen... please?

Miranda: (a little shocked at the please) I... alright. Go on.

Jack: I know we have all this **** going on around us, the whole galaxy's gonna get blown to **** by the Reapers, Shepard's trying to get everyone to get their act together in time... and he's trying to make me work, y'know? Like a real person?

Miranda: Yes... he does rather have his hands full there.

Jack: How do I say thank you? And mean it. I... don't think I know how.

Miranda: Have you tried opening that big mouth of yours and just saying it?

Jack: I've tried... it, just comes out all wrong. It sounds like I'm just ****ing with him. Only other thing I can do is **** him, and that's good but it's not enough. I feel like I'm doing that for me.

Miranda: (sarcastically) Oh?

Jack: (mocking) Yeah. We cracked his fishtank last night. It's good, really good.

Miranda: My heart bleeds for you...

Jack: But it's wrong. I have to do more than that... that's too easy.

Miranda: You said it...

Jack scowls at Miranda, who smirks, then raises her hands.

Jack: I don't know how to tell him what I feel. I'm... I'm scared, ok? What if I don't say it and he leaves one day and never comes back? I can't cope with that. I just ****ing can't. It's... he makes me feel normal, ok? Like I don't have this damage hanging over me, over us. I don't want to be a burden to him, and that makes me just want to go, y'know? Just ****ing walk next time we hit port... but... if I do that...

Miranda: You'd just be running away? And you'd be losing something you want to keep?

Jack: (reluctantly) Yeah...

Miranda: You could try just being happy, you know? I know it's a daring concept, but you could just try accepting that for whatever deranged reason, Shepard likes you. God knows he's the only person on this ship that does, but he does. And if it was just sex he wanted, trust me, he could get it without half the baggage you haul around with you. And if he wanted to leave that badly, he knows where the airlock is.

Jack: So what would you do?

Miranda: I'd maybe take him somewhere special, sit him down, and I'd just tell him. I doubt he scares easily. He's seen you naked for starters...

Jack: ****.


Even the worst rivals can reach an understanding

Bravo! Bravo!

[MHRazer]

Mondo47 wrote...

Hey, since this is the 'romance pack'... perhaps something like this is a possibility - female bonding!


Operative Lawson's Quarters - 14:00 hours, standard operational duty hours...

Miranda's door hisses open - Jack enters:

Jack: I gotta talk to you about something.

Miranda: (testy) Do we really have to go through this again?

Jack: I... I don't mean that ****. It's something else.

Miranda: What else could you possibly want? You only ever drag yourself out of your pit to throw your weight around with people. I think part of you really gets off on being such a martyr -

Jack: Goddamnit, listen to me!

Miranda's couch lifts four feet off the ground. Miranda throws herself backwards out of her chair and enters a defensive posture. Jack screws her eyes shut and lowers her hand - the couch slowly returns to the ground.

Jack: Can we not do it like this? I'm ****ing tired of it...

Miranda: You're not the only one who's tired. How many times do I have to spell it out for you - I'm not with them anymore. It's done with. Over! I'm not to blame - I never was.

Jack: (yelling) It's not all about you! It's... about Shepard.

Miranda straightens up, pushes her hair back.

Miranda: What about him? Has he finally seen sense and told you to stop visiting him at close of duty?

Jack: Say something like that again and they'll need a sponge to clean you off that desk, ok? That's not a threat either, it's a fact... just ****ing listen... please?

Miranda: (a little shocked at the please) I... alright. Go on.

Jack: I know we have all this **** going on around us, the whole galaxy's gonna get blown to **** by the Reapers, Shepard's trying to get everyone to get their act together in time... and he's trying to make me work, y'know? Like a real person?

Miranda: Yes... he does rather have his hands full there.

Jack: How do I say thank you? And mean it. I... don't think I know how.

Miranda: Have you tried opening that big mouth of yours and just saying it?

Jack: I've tried... it, just comes out all wrong. It sounds like I'm just ****ing with him. Only other thing I can do is **** him, and that's good but it's not enough. I feel like I'm doing that for me.

Miranda: (sarcastically) Oh?

Jack: (mocking) Yeah. We cracked his fishtank last night. It's good, really good.

Miranda: My heart bleeds for you...

Jack: But it's wrong. I have to do more than that... that's too easy.

Miranda: You said it...

Jack scowls at Miranda, who smirks, then raises her hands.

Jack: I don't know how to tell him what I feel. I'm... I'm scared, ok? What if I don't say it and he leaves one day and never comes back? I can't cope with that. I just ****ing can't. It's... he makes me feel normal, ok? Like I don't have this damage hanging over me, over us. I don't want to be a burden to him, and that makes me just want to go, y'know? Just ****ing walk next time we hit port... but... if I do that...

Miranda: You'd just be running away? And you'd be losing something you want to keep?

Jack: (reluctantly) Yeah...

Miranda: You could try just being happy, you know? I know it's a daring concept, but you could just try accepting that for whatever deranged reason, Shepard likes you. God knows he's the only person on this ship that does, but he does. And if it was just sex he wanted, trust me, he could get it without half the baggage you haul around with you. And if he wanted to leave that badly, he knows where the airlock is.

Jack: So what would you do?

Miranda: I'd maybe take him somewhere special, sit him down, and I'd just tell him. I doubt he scares easily. He's seen you naked for starters...

Jack: ****.


Even the worst rivals can reach an understanding

You should be receiving an application for a position as a writer from Bioware in your e-mail any second now.

(At least I hope so)

Modifié par MHRazer, 17 mars 2010 - 11:29 .

[Booglarize]

 

MHRazer wrote...

You should be receiving an application for a position as a writer from Bioware in your e-mail any second now.

(At least I hope so)

No, that would totally compromise Mondo's indie cred. What she needs to do is make her own game and then release it herself on blank DVDs bought from Radio Shack, as a way of sticking up for the mom-and-pop role-playing game industry. 

[Epantiras]

BobbyTheI wrote...

"New in the romance pack for Mass Effect 2!  Shepard now occasionally BLINKS while giving his love interest a deadpan stare!  FEEL the PASSION!"

Awesome


BTW what's going on? Fanfiction on the Jack thread? I thought we had dismissed that claim ;-)

[Mondo47]

Booglarize wrote...

 

MHRazer wrote...

You should be receiving an application for a position as a writer from Bioware in your e-mail any second now.

(At least I hope so)

No, that would totally compromise Mondo's indie cred. What she needs to do is make her own game and then release it herself on blank DVDs bought from Radio Shack, as a way of sticking up for the mom-and-pop role-playing game industry. 

I don't think I'd say no to a job writing for Bioware though

[Booglarize]

Mondo47 wrote...

I don't think I'd say no to a job writing for Bioware though

Oh well, if that happens I guess I'll have to work on my completely original idea for Dragon Effect (and the expansion, Dragon Effect: Forsakening), all on my lonesome then.

[Heyalrey]

I just hope there's room enough in the indie game market for Dragon Effect *and* my upcoming title, Mass Age.

[Ilzairspar]

Epantiras wrote...

BobbyTheI wrote...

"New in the romance pack for Mass Effect 2!  Shepard now occasionally BLINKS while giving his love interest a deadpan stare!  FEEL the PASSION!"

Awesome


BTW what's going on? Fanfiction on the Jack thread? I thought we had dismissed that claim ;-)

I believe we can make the exception to that rule.

No Fanfiction....unless it's Mondo 

[Mondo47]

I'll have to do another funny one next or you'll be thinking I'm actually writing fanfic as opposed to amusing ideas off the top of my head

[Jackal904]

Booglarize wrote...

Chaos-fusion wrote...

Can't say I care for a romance pack. Would easily prefer it if they expanded on squad interaction both with Sheperd and each other. Allow Femsheps and Mansheps who didn't do the romance to get to know Jack better.

I agree, I think. As much as I enjoyed the romances, a "romance pack" by itself would feel a little hollow. Better to have something that expands interaction and dialogue all-round. 

I think that's what this "romance pack" woul be. I like the idea of a romance pack that adds a lot more romance dialogue to all the squadmates. Maybe even more non-romance related dialogue could be included. They at least need something so that your LI doesn't repeat the same line after the final mission that they said before the final mission.

Mondo47 wrote...

Jack and crew interactions? You should probably call it Jack vs. The Crew

Jack and Grunt couldn't not get on, really... they both were 'made' what they are, they both admire Shepard in their own ways, and they both have a 'take no **** and take no prisoners' attitude. They like a good fight. And while they'd probably disagree over the semantics of various issues, it'd probably go no further than a "Yeah, whatever," and it's on to the next one.

While she could appreciate Thane's skill, I doubt she'd respond to his spirituality with anything other than cynicism, perhaps suggesting that he uses it as an excuse or an emotional crutch for his actions. Jack's a realist; if she can't see it, hear it or steal it, it's not really worthwhile. And if you had her experiences with a cult, or hell, her childhood, would you buy any kind of spirituality? If any kind of God showed up to you, you'd knock their teeth out before you took a knee.

Jack and Miri... oh, I don't see that ever working. Even if Miranda got off her high horse, Jack wouldn't get off hers. I don't even think Jack would accept an apology from her; it'd be too much like giving in, or it'd be too great a risk of opening herself to exploitation again. Even if Miranda went on a demolitions spree at Cerberus bases, it'd never be enough. Some things don't heal. Ever.

I think almost everyone else on board ship would be ignored. She might exchange words if she feels like it with Zaeed (because of his career choices) or Tali or Garrus (because they've known Shepard for longer) but outside of those conversations on her own terms, Jack seems likely to just walk by people. No acknowledgements, no thank-yous, no pleases. If she wants something, she helps herself to it, and once she has it, it's hers; she goes up to the women's washroom and another woman walks in, they at best will get bawled out, at worst will end up sat outside with a broken nose. You bump into her, you get bounced off a wall. And if you open your mouth... chances are the Varren is coming off the leash.

On the other side of the coin though, places with a lot of people, like the mess hall, would be one of the few things that would scare her. People with experience of prison messes don't react well to sharing personal space (hell, prison period does that to people). Someone offers her something out of simple politeness will find themselves eating it, someone staring at her a second too long will find tabletop added to their diet. As soon as it's done though, Jack would know it was an incorrect reaction; a stain from prison life making itself known on autopilot. So, she would avoid any confrontations; slope up at the end of the day and eat whatever was leftover, taking a tray back downstairs with her or only sitting in the mess when absolutely no-one was around, or eating only when Grunt was there (as he's bound to clear the mess... regular folk don't find Krogan relaxing company) or if Shep dragged her ass in there (and even then she'd act up and **** until the endurance test was over). There's probably a small mountain of trays slung behind all those pipes below engineering. After a few months down there it would probably be more of a mess than your average collegeboy's pad.

Oddly enough though, I think Samara would be the one person on the ship besides Shepard that would understand Jack. She may be bound be her Code, but she could certainly appreciate what has made Jack into the woman she is. She'd probably feel deeply sad for her, seeing someone too damaged to function any other way, too weak to have made any other choices that stand on the higher moral path. Samara would almost certainly see though that Jack and the Normandy (or Jack and Shepard if the Shep is male and pursuing her) is something close to therapy; a chance to finally be someone outside of the shadows of the past. She would watch closely, but I doubt she would intervene without giving Shepard some prior warning. Besides, it would be all too easy for her to react in similar ways to Thane or Zaeed, who have also made lives for themselves outside of the natural realm of law and order. Samara on the Normandy has to know when to ease off, unless something's done in front of her I'd suppose.

Just my take, 'tis all

I disagree with almost everything except Grunt and Jack getting a long . Unless you pissed off Jack by breaking up with her or having renegade sex with, I don't think she would be so antisocial with the crew. Sure she wouldn't be all friendly, but I don't think she would slam somebody against the wall just for looking at her. She didn't spend her whole life in a prison, she said she's hung out with lots of people. I think, especially if you romance her, that she might even move out of her little whole on the engineering deck. And I think if Miranda sincerely apologized and talked to Jack, then Jack might not absolutely hate her. I don't picture Jack getting a long with Tali at all. I don't think Jack would ever dislike her unless she did something personal. I think Jack is indifferent towards Tali. I think she Garrus would only be slightly intimidated by her, but I think they might get a long well. I don't think Samara would get a long with her at all. If Samara is that vengeful against her own criminal daughter, then I doubt she would have trouble with wanting to kill some very wanted criminal that she just met. But this is also just my take .

Mondo47 wrote...

Hey, since this is the 'romance pack'... perhaps something like this is a possibility - female bonding!


Operative Lawson's Quarters - 14:00 hours, standard operational duty hours...

[Long conversation between Jack and Miranda]

Even the worst rivals can reach an understanding

Wow, that was really good. I think that would be a very possible conversation between them. You should apply to BioWare's writing staff .

Ilzairspar wrote...
And people say that Jackcentric fanfic can't happen 

J/K Jackal!

good writing Mondo

I didn't say it couldn't happen. I just said it's extremely rare and that I've never seen it . What Mondo did was very good, and it wasn't exactly like a fanfic with all the, "And the wind blowing like a warm summer night," crap. It was just a well thought out conversation between two characters. Not some overdramatic soap opera. I really liked it.

Modifié par Jackal904, 18 mars 2010 - 12:56 .

[Barrendall]

Mondo47 wrote...

Hey, since this is the 'romance pack'... perhaps something like this is a possibility - female bonding!


Operative Lawson's Quarters - 14:00 hours, standard operational duty hours...

Miranda's door hisses open - Jack enters:

Jack: I gotta talk to you about something.

Miranda: (testy) Do we really have to go through this again?

Jack: I... I don't mean that ****. It's something else.

Miranda: What else could you possibly want? You only ever drag yourself out of your pit to throw your weight around with people. I think part of you really gets off on being such a martyr -

Jack: Goddamnit, listen to me!

Miranda's couch lifts four feet off the ground. Miranda throws herself backwards out of her chair and enters a defensive posture. Jack screws her eyes shut and lowers her hand - the couch slowly returns to the ground.

Jack: Can we not do it like this? I'm ****ing tired of it...

Miranda: You're not the only one who's tired. How many times do I have to spell it out for you - I'm not with them anymore. It's done with. Over! I'm not to blame - I never was.

Jack: (yelling) It's not all about you! It's... about Shepard.

Miranda straightens up, pushes her hair back.

Miranda: What about him? Has he finally seen sense and told you to stop visiting him at close of duty?

Jack: Say something like that again and they'll need a sponge to clean you off that desk, ok? That's not a threat either, it's a fact... just ****ing listen... please?

Miranda: (a little shocked at the please) I... alright. Go on.

Jack: I know we have all this **** going on around us, the whole galaxy's gonna get blown to **** by the Reapers, Shepard's trying to get everyone to get their act together in time... and he's trying to make me work, y'know? Like a real person?

Miranda: Yes... he does rather have his hands full there.

Jack: How do I say thank you? And mean it. I... don't think I know how.

Miranda: Have you tried opening that big mouth of yours and just saying it?

Jack: I've tried... it, just comes out all wrong. It sounds like I'm just ****ing with him. Only other thing I can do is **** him, and that's good but it's not enough. I feel like I'm doing that for me.

Miranda: (sarcastically) Oh?

Jack: (mocking) Yeah. We cracked his fishtank last night. It's good, really good.

Miranda: My heart bleeds for you...

Jack: But it's wrong. I have to do more than that... that's too easy.

Miranda: You said it...

Jack scowls at Miranda, who smirks, then raises her hands.

Jack: I don't know how to tell him what I feel. I'm... I'm scared, ok? What if I don't say it and he leaves one day and never comes back? I can't cope with that. I just ****ing can't. It's... he makes me feel normal, ok? Like I don't have this damage hanging over me, over us. I don't want to be a burden to him, and that makes me just want to go, y'know? Just ****ing walk next time we hit port... but... if I do that...

Miranda: You'd just be running away? And you'd be losing something you want to keep?

Jack: (reluctantly) Yeah...

Miranda: You could try just being happy, you know? I know it's a daring concept, but you could just try accepting that for whatever deranged reason, Shepard likes you. God knows he's the only person on this ship that does, but he does. And if it was just sex he wanted, trust me, he could get it without half the baggage you haul around with you. And if he wanted to leave that badly, he knows where the airlock is.

Jack: So what would you do?

Miranda: I'd maybe take him somewhere special, sit him down, and I'd just tell him. I doubt he scares easily. He's seen you naked for starters...

Jack: ****.


Even the worst rivals can reach an understanding

I'm not a huge fan of fanfiction (pardon the pun) but I have to say I'm very very impressed.  Nice job

[Ilzairspar]

Jackal904 wrote...


I didn't say it couldn't happen. I just said it's extremely rare and that I've never seen it . What Mondo did was very good, and it wasn't exactly like a fanfic with all the, "And the wind blowing like a warm summer night," crap. It was just a well thought out conversation between two characters. Not some overdramatic soap opera. I really liked it.

Aw I'm just joking around.  Though I admit that Mondo's humorous 'scenes' are much better than a lot of fanfiction I've read out there.


EDIT: Missed an o

Modifié par Ilzairspar, 18 mars 2010 - 01:37 .

[Jackal904]

Ilzairspar wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...


I didn't say it couldn't happen. I just said it's extremely rare and that I've never seen it . What Mondo did was very good, and it wasn't exactly like a fanfic with all the, "And the wind blowing like a warm summer night," crap. It was just a well thought out conversation between two characters. Not some overdramatic soap opera. I really liked it.

Aw I'm just joking around.  Though I admit that Mondo's humorous 'scenes' are much better than a lot of fanfiction I've read out there.


EDIT: Missed an o

Ya I know I'm just saying how I find Mondo's "fanfiction" different and better than other's because it doesn't have all this silly unnecessary stuff like descriptions of grass blades.