20813 réponses à ce sujet

[Epantiras]

Somebody said fan art?

This is my thought about the CSI alternate outfit DLC...

(yes, horrible pun. Feel free to suggest a better one)

Modifié par Epantiras, 18 mars 2010 - 10:43 .

[Chaos-fusion]

Epantiras, the link won't work for me, and it's too small to read as it is. nevermind, working now, thanks. I like it. And is that a pic of Juhani on the wall behind her?

Modifié par Chaos-fusion, 18 mars 2010 - 10:45 .

[Epantiras]

Try now. I should have fixed it!

EDIT: Yes it's Juhani ;-)

Modifié par Epantiras, 18 mars 2010 - 10:45 .

[Chaos-fusion]

Aha! Then * for you, since I loved Juhani.

*Unless you have personal space issues or such, in which case, a sincere grin from a distance will be offered instead.

Modifié par Chaos-fusion, 18 mars 2010 - 10:50 .

[Epantiras]

Chaos-fusion wrote...

Aha! Then * for you, since I loved Juhani.

*Unless you have personal space issues or such, in which case, a sincere grin from a distance will be offered instead.

[royceclemens]

See this is one of the reasons I want Jack in ME3. Because if I have a FemShep, Jack and Kaidan in my party, then it's Bastila, Juhani and Carth.



Is a KOTOR reunion all that bad?

[Occams Razor 17]

Jackal904 wrote...

Occams Razor 17 wrote...
Is there a way to dictate which squadmate says the most lines on missions? I thought it was whichever one was selected first; but last time I tried that, Miranda steamrolled over all the lines, despite being selected second.

I did a lot of testing to try to figure this out. The order at which you choose your two squadmates to bring with you does nothing except change where they stand during dialogue. There are two "paths" of dialogue for your squadmates. I like to refer to them as the primary and secondary path. The primary path generally has more lines. But what I found out is that certain squadmates trump other squadmates for the primary path. Like if you take Miranda and Jack, Miranda will always get the primary path. But if you take Jack and Grunt, Jack always gets the primary path. I also found out that Jacob, Zaeed, and Mordin all take the primary path if you bring Jack.

That's a bummer if that's the case.  It was odd; Jack took primary with Mordin on Grunt's recruitment, but secondary with Mordin on Horizon.  Hopefully Jack has primary over other squadmates besides just Grunt.

Wish they had just made it whichever squadmate was selected first 

[Azint]

royceclemens wrote...

See this is one of the reasons I want Jack in ME3. Because if I have a FemShep, Jack and Kaidan in my party, then it's Bastila, Juhani and Carth.

Is a KOTOR reunion all that bad?

KOTOR, my #2 favorite game ever made.

Modifié par Azint, 18 mars 2010 - 11:05 .

[Mondo47]

Epantiras wrote...

Somebody said fan art?

This is my thought about the CSI alternate outfit DLC...

(yes, horrible pun. Feel free to suggest a better one)

And I was only saying in another thread earlier today that Jack could render Shep redundant

Cracking work, Epantiras

[Occams Razor 17]

It was a while back when the conversation about Jack and Zaeed was going on, but in case anyone is still interested, Zaeed's monologue about the little girl goes word for word like this:

"Tough fight on Horizon I've fought slavers and kidnapping rings, but nothing like that."

"Some slavers took a little girl on a colony in the Skepsis System. Girl woke up, fought her way out, got picked up by my band well on her way to Omega."

"Eight years old. She'd have had no chance on Horizon."

Modifié par Occams Razor 17, 18 mars 2010 - 11:27 .

[Jackal904]

Mondo47 wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

There are a lot of virtues with the Tali relationship... But there's only one way to talk to her. And where's the fun in that?

I quite like Tali... I mean, her romance is perfect for her because she is a woman attempting to, to quote that guy in the VIP room, score outside of her league (at least in her mind). She thinks a Shep will only see the suit and not the woman in it, so she plays it a little light, only really semi-flirty, because she doesn't want to put too much of herself out there and risk getting her feelings stepped on. Even if that did happen, she'd still not take it too personally because she'd be heaping the issues on herself - he doesn't want to risk my health, he should be with someone less complicated, maybe its safer I never took the helmet off (I mean, come on, she's an alien, she has to at least wonder if Shep would ever find her attractive even if she is relatively humanlike under the bubble, and she's a woman, so she has a woman's insecurities). But it never goes past the basis that Tali comes into the story attracted to Shepard, so there only really can be one path, which is the one she's crafted - she's in control of it all, albeit a little shakily. You're in or you're onto the off-ramp.

Look at Miranda - she's the more assertive, more experienced version of Tali - she makes the road for Shepard, he can take it or not, and in the end she's strong enough to deal with a rejection; she's hurt, but you know she'll get over it fairly quick. The 11th hour ditching of Tali is something she'll survive too, but it'll doubtlessly take her a lot longer to get over it.

Jack's different in that she never makes a road in. Shep has to see all the ROAD CLOSED signs and just drive through them. There's no easy-in. I think that is the biggest stumbling block to people; they see no welcome mat with Jack and just don't want the hassle. Ok, this is going to come off as old-lady-patronising however I put it, but I can't say it any other way, so sorry in advance: considering the age of most guys playing the game, they can't be blamed for only liking the women that have landing lights all set up for them. A lot of them won't have had experience with complicated women. It's confusing and scary! And let's not even start on Jack's appearance... she's an acquired taste for sure. Guys get fed the same **** about what's attractive as gals, so they bring it into the game and... well, we know how it turns out. I'm bearing down on 40, so this is age and experience talking here - I think I can say my boy's in a minority saying he thinks Jack is cute (he likes goth girls too, so it's not too big a stretch).
 
Not everyone wants to pay for the repairs though, and you can't really blame a desire for a smooth ride in a videogame.

Oh ya it's totally understandable why a lot of people go for Tali. She's very into you right off the bat and when you tell her you are also interested she becomes ecstatic. It makes the player feel good that this chick is so into them. And it's also very understandable why people might not want to deal with romancing Jack, because she pushes Shepard away so much. But I like that. I like how she doesn't fall for you right off the bat, and I like how you have to  "work" to form a relationship with her. It's all based on preferences but if people just give Jack a chance I think they will be surprised and they'll end up liking her a lot. Unless they are stubborn shallow douchbags .

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

Occams Razor 17 wrote...
Is there a way to dictate which squadmate says the most lines on missions? I thought it was whichever one was selected first; but last time I tried that, Miranda steamrolled over all the lines, despite being selected second.

I did a lot of testing to try to figure this out. The order at which you choose your two squadmates to bring with you does nothing except change where they stand during dialogue. There are two "paths" of dialogue for your squadmates. I like to refer to them as the primary and secondary path. The primary path generally has more lines. But what I found out is that certain squadmates trump other squadmates for the primary path. Like if you take Miranda and Jack, Miranda will always get the primary path. But if you take Jack and Grunt, Jack always gets the primary path. I also found out that Jacob, Zaeed, and Mordin all take the primary path if you bring Jack.

That's a bummer if that's the case.  It was odd; Jack took primary with Mordin on Grunt's recruitment, but secondary with Mordin on Horizon.  Hopefully Jack has primary over other squadmates besides just Grunt.

Wish they had just made it whichever squadmate was selected first 

Ya I wish they did. One of the reasons I pick Grunt along with Jack is because Jack usually talks the most then.

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

It was a while back when the conversation about Jack and Zaeed was going on, but in case anyone is still interested, Zaeed's monologue about the little girl goes word for word like this:

"Tough fight on Horizon I've fought slavers and kidnapping rings, but nothing like that."

"Some slavers took a little girl on a colony in the Skepsis System. Girl woke up, fought her way out, got picked up by my band well on her way to Omega."

"Eight years old. She'd have had no chance on Horizon."

Wait so this 8 year old girl was on Horizon? And what system is Pragia in?

Modifié par Jackal904, 19 mars 2010 - 12:10 .

[Chaos-fusion]

Jack v2. New features include: Pants, tattoos, flashier biotics.

Now I just need some talent, and I could do some real art. *sigh* (not to worry, I'm done with fanart for now. ... That sound you just heard was the collective group of Jackolytes sighing in relief in unison)

royceclemens wrote...

See this is one of the reasons I
want Jack in ME3. Because if I have a FemShep, Jack and Kaidan in my
party, then it's Bastila, Juhani and Carth.

Is a KOTOR reunion
all that bad?

It just wouldn't be the same without a wookie to push into killing his best friend. although, I would love some more exotic acents in ME3. North America in space is just dull.

Modifié par Chaos-fusion, 19 mars 2010 - 12:05 .

[Ilzairspar]

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

It was a while back when the conversation about Jack and Zaeed was going on, but in case anyone is still interested, Zaeed's monologue about the little girl goes word for word like this:

"Tough fight on Horizon I've fought slavers and kidnapping rings, but nothing like that."

"Some slavers took a little girl on a colony in the Skepsis System. Girl woke up, fought her way out, got picked up by my band well on her way to Omega."

"Eight years old. She'd have had no chance on Horizon."

OK if we take this and say that the kid was Jack the that means she like 17.

If we take Zaeed's words as her then I'm thinking we need to reassess how long ago this was when she broke out, 17 just seems a bit too young.

Originally we got 9 years because that was when the Assention program (it was assention program right) was started.  I'm beginning to think that...I can't remember who said it before... that the program wasn't started yet but still in the prep stages when Jack broke out.  Prep can take years before it comes to true fruition. 

The E-mail you get after Jack's loyalty mission states that the scientists that survived were put on early retirement.  So either none of them made it to the program or they perhaps wern't part of the 'hands on' in the program.

then again, perhaps I'm just crazy....it could be true.

[Mondo47]

Chaos-fusion wrote...

Jack v2. New features include: Pants, tattoos, flashier biotics.

Now I just need some talent, and I could do some real art. *sigh* (not to worry, I'm done with fanart for now. ... That sound you just heard was the collective group of Jackolytes sighing in relief in unison)

royceclemens wrote...

See this is one of the reasons I
want Jack in ME3. Because if I have a FemShep, Jack and Kaidan in my
party, then it's Bastila, Juhani and Carth.

Is a KOTOR reunion
all that bad?

It just wouldn't be the same without a wookie to push into killing his best friend. although, I would love some more exotic acents in ME3. North America in space is just dull.

You need to to give her some big sad anime-eyes and she'd be perfect

Ok, just to put an addendum on this bout of silliness (I've got a major waterworks attack going on, largely due to what I'm about to show you... I'm going to continue to blame PMS for... forever). Maybe I'm an emotional old stick, but... I think if you romance Jack... this should be the song for what you get. It just strikes me as perfect. Absolutely ****ing perfect. And it works for both sides of the relationship.

Nothing good is ever, ever easy...

I'm going back to my box of tissues.

Modifié par Mondo47, 19 mars 2010 - 12:32 .

[Jackal904]

Ilzairspar wrote...

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

It was a while back when the conversation about Jack and Zaeed was going on, but in case anyone is still interested, Zaeed's monologue about the little girl goes word for word like this:

"Tough fight on Horizon I've fought slavers and kidnapping rings, but nothing like that."

"Some slavers took a little girl on a colony in the Skepsis System. Girl woke up, fought her way out, got picked up by my band well on her way to Omega."

"Eight years old. She'd have had no chance on Horizon."

OK if we take this and say that the kid was Jack the that means she like 17.

If we take Zaeed's words as her then I'm thinking we need to reassess how long ago this was when she broke out, 17 just seems a bit too young.

Originally we got 9 years because that was when the Assention program (it was assention program right) was started.  I'm beginning to think that...I can't remember who said it before... that the program wasn't started yet but still in the prep stages when Jack broke out.  Prep can take years before it comes to true fruition. 

The E-mail you get after Jack's loyalty mission states that the scientists that survived were put on early retirement.  So either none of them made it to the program or they perhaps wern't part of the 'hands on' in the program.

then again, perhaps I'm just crazy....it could be true.

Why did he say, "She' have had no chance on Horizon"? And if this girl fought  her way out at 8 years old, I don't see how this girl couldn't by anything other than a powerful biotic.

[Chaos-fusion]

Mondo47 wrote...
You need to to give her some big sad anime-eyes and she'd be perfect

Oh dear. that was my first attempt at any form of anime. ..It has not ended well.

[Ilzairspar]

Jackal904 wrote...

Ilzairspar wrote...

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

It was a while back when the conversation about Jack and Zaeed was going on, but in case anyone is still interested, Zaeed's monologue about the little girl goes word for word like this:

"Tough fight on Horizon I've fought slavers and kidnapping rings, but nothing like that."

"Some slavers took a little girl on a colony in the Skepsis System. Girl woke up, fought her way out, got picked up by my band well on her way to Omega."

"Eight years old. She'd have had no chance on Horizon."

OK if we take this and say that the kid was Jack the that means she like 17.

If we take Zaeed's words as her then I'm thinking we need to reassess how long ago this was when she broke out, 17 just seems a bit too young.

Originally we got 9 years because that was when the Assention program (it was assention program right) was started.  I'm beginning to think that...I can't remember who said it before... that the program wasn't started yet but still in the prep stages when Jack broke out.  Prep can take years before it comes to true fruition. 

The E-mail you get after Jack's loyalty mission states that the scientists that survived were put on early retirement.  So either none of them made it to the program or they perhaps wern't part of the 'hands on' in the program.

then again, perhaps I'm just crazy....it could be true.

Why did he say, "She' have had no chance on Horizon"? And if this girl fought  her way out at 8 years old, I don't see how this girl couldn't by anything other than a powerful biotic.

Probably because even with all that power she wouldn't have a chance agaisnt the seeker swarms.

Or he wanted to show how much more awesome powerful he was compared to a child. 

[Jackal904]

Ilzairspar wrote...

Probably because even with all that power she wouldn't have a chance agaisnt the seeker swarms.

Well why did he even mention Horizon? Did they drop this 8 year old girl off at Horizon or something?

[RurouniSaiya-jin]

Epantiras wrote...

Somebody said fan art?

This is my thought about the CSI alternate outfit DLC...

(yes, horrible pun. Feel free to suggest a better one)

lol, that fan art comic strip was pretty funny. I liked it.

[Ilzairspar]

Jackal904 wrote...

Ilzairspar wrote...

Probably because even with all that power she wouldn't have a chance agaisnt the seeker swarms.

Well why did he even mention Horizon? Did they drop this 8 year old girl off at Horizon or something?

my ability to straw grasp has been exceeded........unable to process answer that would make any logical sense.

anyone else have any idea?

[Occams Razor 17]

Jackal904 wrote...

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

It was a while back when the conversation about Jack and Zaeed was going on, but in case anyone is still interested, Zaeed's monologue about the little girl goes word for word like this:

"Tough fight on Horizon I've fought slavers and kidnapping rings, but nothing like that."

"Some slavers took a little girl on a colony in the Skepsis System. Girl woke up, fought her way out, got picked up by my band well on her way to Omega."

"Eight years old. She'd have had no chance on Horizon."

Wait so this 8 year old girl was on Horizon? And what system is Pragia in?

No; I don't think Zaeed knows where the 8 year old girl is now.  Pragia is in the  Dakka System in the Nubian Expanse.  The Skepsis System is in Sigurd's Cradle.

[Chaos-fusion]

I think he only mentioned Horizon because you just came from there. Maybe trying to point out how cruel the galaxy can be for kids? I have no idea.

[Mondo47]

Ok, eyes dry now...



I think Zaeed was just making a comment about sheer, bloody-minded determination. This kid, not even in double figures, had pulled a Newt and survived something pretty damn tough and somehow managed to survive something many adults wouldn't have. All that single-minded will to survive would have meant nothing in the face of the Collectors. As much as he's telling an annecdote about survival against the odds, he's highlighting the might of the opposition.



Thant's my take on it at least...

[Occams Razor 17]

Ilzairspar wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

Ilzairspar wrote...
Probably because even with all that power she wouldn't have a chance agaisnt the seeker swarms.

Well why did he even mention Horizon? Did they drop this 8 year old girl off at Horizon or something?

my ability to straw grasp has been exceeded........unable to process answer that would make any logical sense.
anyone else have any idea?

I think he mentioned this as a way of expressing how great a threat the Collectors are to colonies.  The colony in the Skepsis System was attacked by slavers, but the little girl managed to escape.  While if that scenario of the little girl being captured was played through with Collectors instead of slavers (ala Horizon), Zaeed is positive she'd never have managed to escape.

Modifié par Occams Razor 17, 19 mars 2010 - 01:10 .

[Mondo47]

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

Ilzairspar wrote...

Jackal904 wrote...

Ilzairspar wrote...
Probably because even with all that power she wouldn't have a chance agaisnt the seeker swarms.

Well why did he even mention Horizon? Did they drop this 8 year old girl off at Horizon or something?

my ability to straw grasp has been exceeded........unable to process answer that would make any logical sense.
anyone else have any idea?

I think he mentioned this as a way of expressing how great a threat the Collectors are to colonies.  The colony in the Skepsis System was attacked by slavers, but the little girl managed to escape.  While if that scenario of the little girl being captured was played through with Collectors instead of slavers (ala Horizon), Zaeed is positive she'd never have managed to escape.

This + my last post = what i was trying to say