royceclemens wrote...
Well, I didn't want to bore anyone with my goofiness, but with Jack, I guess it's on topic.
I think it's all gonna boil down to likelihood vs. popularity. If you had to pin me to a wall and ask who were the squaddies most likely to return, I'd have to say Miranda (as if she is loyal, she will actually outlive you, even if you did everything else wrong) and Samara (because she point blank said she was coming back).
Everyone else is in a hazy gray area, our Jack included, with the least likely, in my estimation, being Mordin, as he's the easiest to kill in the suicide mission and even apart from that, he's next to useless in combat (although if they just put him on the ship to talk to after every mission, I doubt anyone would complain).
So now we have likelihood covered, we go on to popularity. And while our little coffee shop of a thread grows by the day, that still doesn't change the fact that there are a stunning number of people who reeeeeeeeeeeeally hate Jack. She's a base-breaker, with one half of the fans thinking she's deep and the other half thinking she's juvenile.
Now BioWare isn't dumb, if they see they did something people don't like, they're quick to rectify it. Only now it remains to be figured whether more people liked Jack than, say, the Mako. If not, then she's out. This isn't to say that Jack won't have a role in ME3 at all, but squadmate status is in serious jeopardy.
But on the other hand, this motley crew of misfits and old people we have assembled here may just be a sliver of (and I honestly hate to use this term as I hate the man who coined it) a silent majority of people who saw what we did. And the fans of Jack, little in number though they may be, die hard.
So now that I've written my wall of text and wasted everyone's time with my figurin', I think how it's going to play out is that Jack will still be alive in all of our games if we took the time to keep her alive and she will be a squadmate, because there was something about her that the developers wanted to show us. But in default ME3 plays, she'll be as dead as Dillinger. That way BW and EA won't alienate new customers with an experiment that could be looked at in a certain light as a failure, while keeping a segment of the fanbase happy.
That works as a happy medium, don't you think?
I slap folk with goofiness here constantly! I mean, I was weeping over a Foos song on the last page, and two before I was hanging Elton John and RuPaul in here. Trust me, no-one here minds teh g00f
Your theory sounds solid enough, Uncle Royce. At its most basic, for the suicide mission to have the slightest amount of meaning going forward into the next game, more than Shepard has to survive. I mean, Bioware aren't so away-with-the-fairies to make such a big lynchpin moment in a game to just erase all its potential consequences. People have to survive for a reason. Maybe we only get an email from them, maybe a scene, maybe more, but that just will not satisfy the payoff demanded from such a buildup. For the suicide mission to have meant anything, those that survive must be useful. All those potential permutations of things that can screw up have to mean something, or the cake is a lie. And to me, the most logical meaning is for the survivors to be useful.
I've thrown my idea of how such a potentially large team might work out, so I won't repeat it beyond saying I see story events pruning characters out along the way to handle various parts of the mission to finally screw the Reapers once and for all, everything finally coming together in the big finish. Mordin is a natural for a science effort, Grunt in something involving the Krogan, Tali in something involving the flotilla, and so on. As they leave, the old faces might come back in (Ash/Kaidan/Liara), blah blah blah...
Where does that leave Jack?
She's a war machine, baby! She has no special knowledge or experience to take her off somewhere else (insofar as my theory goes) so she does what she does best: break **** and wreck stuff. Plus she's a potential love interest. If she's romanced, she has to effect Shepard's story. If she ran, he would find her. If she breaks down, he'll fix her. And (perhaps most ominously of all) if it came down to it, she would sacrifice herself for him. She ticks all the boxes the other love interests do - so there's no reason not to have her there, and her not to have a large role within the squad.
And some of the devs love her. And I'd say that a lot of people that don't haunt this forum fell for her too. We're a vocal minority if we think about it; all the Talimancers, Miridians and Jackolytes only make up a fragment of sales. She has (to quote the GMan, which is incidentally what I call my grandfather)
"Limitlesssss potential." ****, if a no-mark like me can make dialogue for her that works, she fits in as much as Miranda, Liara, Tali and that alien-hating cow we call Ash
I see Jack in our futures. Crystal balls can be wrong though, but I hope that Bioware has the sense not to just take a posse of teenage boys scared of complicated women that don't just strip off and roll over for them as a demographic wothy of pandering to
The Mako handled like a fat dog humping a space hopper, no questions there, but Jack is not a nearly universal buzzkill as a rubber truck you need to use almost constantly.
And like I said, too many questions left unanswered... if Bioware ignore a vein that rich, they need their heads examining
So let's all keep polishing the crystal ball here in the forum - we know they're watching now at least.
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