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[ComTrav]

Even Kaidin has his fans...(I was surprised, too, but to each their own...)



But this wasn't supposed to be a Tali v. Miranda thread, they're both good characters, and they both have their fans. You don't have to knock one character to prove your a fan of another.



The original question posed by the thread was settled a while ago. Tali seems more popular than any other ME character.

[Emperor Muad-Dib]

ShadyKat wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

It doesn't matter who's more popualr, Miranda was the better character.

You must have been playing some other version of the game than I did.

Every line Tali gave radiated emotion and personality. Miranda you had to dig deep to find some redeeming qualities, and even then didn't come close to making the effort worth it. Otherwise she came off rather flat. (pardon the pun.)

Tali just kept saying the same thing over, and over. She had no depth. Miranda has a personality and was the way she was for a reason. Tali was just annoying, and randomly just keep repeating the same thing over.

Once agian opinion. I can't think of one cool thing Miranda says or does through the entire game. The girl was just boring. IMO she was the female version of Kaidan.

Did you *SEE* what she does at the end of the game if you go paragon? that was pretty cool, in my opinion.

Or how about her loyalty mission when you meet up with Niket? either way that goes was pretty cool.

Tali is a perfectly fine character, and so is Miranda. I've said it already and will do so again- I liked miranda more. Is all this arguing necessary? What the goal should be is to get all the characters back with a good story and chunk of time dedicated to them in the finale, so everyone can be satisfied. Why does it need to be a competition? Its just a game.

[Annihilator27]

I like tali alot more. But i have no problem with any of the squad mates.

[SkywardDescent]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Tali's more popular (at least in this community) but Miranda is hotter and more interesting.

That's what we call: "An Opinion"

I find miranda to be very boring, and I pretty much listened to all she had to say, and her overly-sexualized body pretty much acted as a turn off to me.

Again, its all subjective.

now turn around and read what you just wrote... It's pretty clear it is subjective, hello, that is the very foundation of this thread, so what is the point of your response except stating the obvious???

Touchy, eh?

She came in saying it like it was fact, I was simply reitterating what has been said before, that being that these things are subjective.

She did not, she stated her opinion just like you. Also I'm not touchy at all, another of your assumptions fail, but it was funny how you assumed that she was stating fact and took immediate offense. Tali defense much???

Not touchy? Hmmm.

Ironic that you bash me for an "incorrect assumption" then make a false assumption that I took offense to what he/she said. I don't care, its an opinion, and the poster is entitled to say what he/she wants. I simply also made my opinion heard, which you took offense to (Oooh! Even more ironic!).

And to finish off this magnificent display of Irony, you continue to run around bashing Tali fan's opinions. Bravo, encore!

However, I posted that I did not find Miranda an intersting character, no once did I say "Tali is much better", and while yes, I do prefer Tali over Miranda, your assumption had no basis, and had it not been for luck, you would have wrong in calling my posts a "Tali defense" and you would have made a fool of yourself.

But make no mistake, it is not even a Tali defense to begin with. I don't like Miranda, that's all there is to it. I found most of the other squadmates to be better and have deeper back stories. So when in reality, I would say, Mordin, Garrus, Grunt, Jack, etc, are, in my opinion, all better, how is it a Tali defense?

Its not.

I simply did not care for Miranda.

But then again, its all subjective, right?

Modifié par SkywardDescent, 06 février 2010 - 12:01 .

[DigitalMaster37]

SkywardDescent wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Tali's more popular (at least in this community) but Miranda is hotter and more interesting.

That's what we call: "An Opinion"

I find miranda to be very boring, and I pretty much listened to all she had to say, and her overly-sexualized body pretty much acted as a turn off to me.

Again, its all subjective.

now turn around and read what you just wrote... It's pretty clear it is subjective, hello, that is the very foundation of this thread, so what is the point of your response except stating the obvious???

Touchy, eh?

She came in saying it like it was fact, I was simply reitterating what has been said before, that being that these things are subjective.

She did not, she stated her opinion just like you. Also I'm not touchy at all, another of your assumptions fail, but it was funny how you assumed that she was stating fact and took immediate offense. Tali defense much???

Not touchy? Hmmm.

Ironic that you bash me for an "incorrect assumption" then make a false assumption that I took offense to what he/she said. I don't care, its an opinion, and the poster is entitled to say what he/she wants. I simply also made my opinion heard, which you took offense to (Oooh! Even more ironic!).

And to finish off this magnificent display of Irony, you continue to run around bashing Tali fan's opinions. Bravo, encore!

However, I posted that I did not find Miranda an intersting character, no once did I say "Tali is much better", and while yes, I do prefer Tali over Miranda, your assumption had no basis, and had it not been for luck, you would have wrong in calling my posts a "Tali defense" and you would have made a fool of yourself.

But make no mistake, it is not even a Tali defense to begin with. I don't like Miranda, that's all there is to it. I found most of the other squadmates to be better and have deeper back stories. So when in reality, I would say, Mordin, Garrus, Grunt, Jack, etc, are, in my opinion, all better, how is it a Tali defense?

Its not.

I simply did not care for Miranda.

But then again, its all subjective, right?

I knew I was speaking to a kid. This is my queue to exit. Happy gaming and romancing all
this thread just took a turn for the worse...

[challenger18]

ComTrav wrote...

Even Kaidin has his fans...(I was surprised, too, but to each their own...)

But this wasn't supposed to be a Tali v. Miranda thread, they're both good characters, and they both have their fans. You don't have to knock one character to prove your a fan of another.

The original question posed by the thread was settled a while ago. Tali seems more popular than any other ME character.

This.

So many people feel the need to knock another character in order to appreciate the character they like. You don't need to do that people. I'm a Tali fan, but I also enjoy all the other characters and I've also romanced all the other characters. I may enjoy Tali more, but that doesn't mean I automatically hate Miranda and declare her to be boring. Me liking Jack doesn't mean I think I should justify her not being psycho and put that title to Samara.

Whatever. That's what's going to happen whenever anyone mentions two NPCs in the same topic. It's like an automatic flame trap.

[SkywardDescent]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Tali's more popular (at least in this community) but Miranda is hotter and more interesting.

That's what we call: "An Opinion"

I find miranda to be very boring, and I pretty much listened to all she had to say, and her overly-sexualized body pretty much acted as a turn off to me.

Again, its all subjective.

now turn around and read what you just wrote... It's pretty clear it is subjective, hello, that is the very foundation of this thread, so what is the point of your response except stating the obvious???

Touchy, eh?

She came in saying it like it was fact, I was simply reitterating what has been said before, that being that these things are subjective.

She did not, she stated her opinion just like you. Also I'm not touchy at all, another of your assumptions fail, but it was funny how you assumed that she was stating fact and took immediate offense. Tali defense much???

Not touchy? Hmmm.

Ironic that you bash me for an "incorrect assumption" then make a false assumption that I took offense to what he/she said. I don't care, its an opinion, and the poster is entitled to say what he/she wants. I simply also made my opinion heard, which you took offense to (Oooh! Even more ironic!).

And to finish off this magnificent display of Irony, you continue to run around bashing Tali fan's opinions. Bravo, encore!

However, I posted that I did not find Miranda an intersting character, no once did I say "Tali is much better", and while yes, I do prefer Tali over Miranda, your assumption had no basis, and had it not been for luck, you would have wrong in calling my posts a "Tali defense" and you would have made a fool of yourself.

But make no mistake, it is not even a Tali defense to begin with. I don't like Miranda, that's all there is to it. I found most of the other squadmates to be better and have deeper back stories. So when in reality, I would say, Mordin, Garrus, Grunt, Jack, etc, are, in my opinion, all better, how is it a Tali defense?

Its not.

I simply did not care for Miranda.

But then again, its all subjective, right?

I knew I was speaking to a kid. This is my queue to exit. Happy gaming and romancing all
this thread just took a turn for the worse...

Ha, a kid.

Look, you ran blindly into an argument, with no basis for you accusations (especially calling me a kid). When you are confronted with an argument you cannot refute, don't run from it kicking an screaming, own up to it.

It makes you look pathetic otherwise.

In this regard, I give you a chance to redeem yourself, now leave with dignity or run.

Modifié par SkywardDescent, 06 février 2010 - 12:07 .

[DigitalMaster37]

SkywardDescent wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Tali's more popular (at least in this community) but Miranda is hotter and more interesting.

That's what we call: "An Opinion"

I find miranda to be very boring, and I pretty much listened to all she had to say, and her overly-sexualized body pretty much acted as a turn off to me.

Again, its all subjective.

now turn around and read what you just wrote... It's pretty clear it is subjective, hello, that is the very foundation of this thread, so what is the point of your response except stating the obvious???

Touchy, eh?

She came in saying it like it was fact, I was simply reitterating what has been said before, that being that these things are subjective.

She did not, she stated her opinion just like you. Also I'm not touchy at all, another of your assumptions fail, but it was funny how you assumed that she was stating fact and took immediate offense. Tali defense much???

Not touchy? Hmmm.

Ironic that you bash me for an "incorrect assumption" then make a false assumption that I took offense to what he/she said. I don't care, its an opinion, and the poster is entitled to say what he/she wants. I simply also made my opinion heard, which you took offense to (Oooh! Even more ironic!).

And to finish off this magnificent display of Irony, you continue to run around bashing Tali fan's opinions. Bravo, encore!

However, I posted that I did not find Miranda an intersting character, no once did I say "Tali is much better", and while yes, I do prefer Tali over Miranda, your assumption had no basis, and had it not been for luck, you would have wrong in calling my posts a "Tali defense" and you would have made a fool of yourself.

But make no mistake, it is not even a Tali defense to begin with. I don't like Miranda, that's all there is to it. I found most of the other squadmates to be better and have deeper back stories. So when in reality, I would say, Mordin, Garrus, Grunt, Jack, etc, are, in my opinion, all better, how is it a Tali defense?

Its not.

I simply did not care for Miranda.

But then again, its all subjective, right?

I knew I was speaking to a kid. This is my queue to exit. Happy gaming and romancing all
this thread just took a turn for the worse...

Ha, a kid.

Look, you ran blindly into an argument, with no basis for you accusations (especially calling me a kid). When you are confronted with an argument you cannot refute, don't run from it kicking an screaming, own up to it.

It makes you look pathetic otherwise.

It's funny you think kid is tied to age... (I 'll let you meditate on that one)

Okay I'm really leaving now... this is getting rather stupid...

EDIT:You blindly fell into the trap of throwing what you were accused of on the person accusing you of it. That is proof you are not worth my arguing energy, so that is why I chose to walk away. That is actually what mature people do... take notes you can learn something... I'm walking, your still talking, who has more self control?

Modifié par Deltaboy37-1, 06 février 2010 - 12:11 .

[SkywardDescent]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Tali's more popular (at least in this community) but Miranda is hotter and more interesting.

That's what we call: "An Opinion"

I find miranda to be very boring, and I pretty much listened to all she had to say, and her overly-sexualized body pretty much acted as a turn off to me.

Again, its all subjective.

now turn around and read what you just wrote... It's pretty clear it is subjective, hello, that is the very foundation of this thread, so what is the point of your response except stating the obvious???

Touchy, eh?

She came in saying it like it was fact, I was simply reitterating what has been said before, that being that these things are subjective.

She did not, she stated her opinion just like you. Also I'm not touchy at all, another of your assumptions fail, but it was funny how you assumed that she was stating fact and took immediate offense. Tali defense much???

Not touchy? Hmmm.

Ironic that you bash me for an "incorrect assumption" then make a false assumption that I took offense to what he/she said. I don't care, its an opinion, and the poster is entitled to say what he/she wants. I simply also made my opinion heard, which you took offense to (Oooh! Even more ironic!).

And to finish off this magnificent display of Irony, you continue to run around bashing Tali fan's opinions. Bravo, encore!

However, I posted that I did not find Miranda an intersting character, no once did I say "Tali is much better", and while yes, I do prefer Tali over Miranda, your assumption had no basis, and had it not been for luck, you would have wrong in calling my posts a "Tali defense" and you would have made a fool of yourself.

But make no mistake, it is not even a Tali defense to begin with. I don't like Miranda, that's all there is to it. I found most of the other squadmates to be better and have deeper back stories. So when in reality, I would say, Mordin, Garrus, Grunt, Jack, etc, are, in my opinion, all better, how is it a Tali defense?

Its not.

I simply did not care for Miranda.

But then again, its all subjective, right?

I knew I was speaking to a kid. This is my queue to exit. Happy gaming and romancing all
this thread just took a turn for the worse...

Ha, a kid.

Look, you ran blindly into an argument, with no basis for you accusations (especially calling me a kid). When you are confronted with an argument you cannot refute, don't run from it kicking an screaming, own up to it.

It makes you look pathetic otherwise.

It's funny you think kid is tied to age... (I 'll let you meditate on that one)

Okay I'm really leaving now... this is getting rather stupid...

Really? That's the best you can do?

First and foremost, when did I mention "kid" had anything to do with age?

And secondly, You call my argument immature, then you promptly ride away on your imaginary high horse to escape that fact you're wrong?

Fine, leave, but I think we both know who is right here.

Modifié par SkywardDescent, 06 février 2010 - 12:17 .

[VanDraegon]

I prefer Tali. Just a better character over all.

[Facetank]

Tali, she's the most 'human' and likeable of all the characters I think.
Miranda is BLEH

[Gabey5]

miranda

[OrionUnas]

Only read the first page, but I like both. I love that Tali has had hardships, and I wouldn't want to get rid of Miranda. Both for the fact that she has her own hardships, and she is the main eyecandy for the game. Sex sells, and you don't get to look at Tali's clevage for 100% of the game.

I love both of their stories, Tali's is a little more original from ME1, since she is an alien and we have to learn of their race. Miranda on the other hand, isn't that complex, we don't need to learn all about her race, because we are already living it.

Everyone loves Tali, hell I love the characer too, but I can't say which one is better then the other, because I like em both. Get rid of Jacob... boring character. I always get his face blasted in on my play through.

Edit...
Warning, below is jabber about character devulpment... you have been warned!

What I like about the two, are their personalities.  Miranada brings the cold hearted distant feel.  Tali brings the naive cute feel.  To understand Miranda, you have go to play the loyalty mission, and I know we all have... I assume anyway.  Her attitude towards her life, is that she is just a tool to be used.  She wants more, but because no one is willing to give her more, she feels at home with her situation.  What was it she said, something about wanting, or knowing where she fits in life?  That to me, makes for strong characteer develupment.  At first glance, she is a static character, but upon my second play through, I took her with me to defeat the last boss, she then becomes a develuping character, dependent on which choices you make.  I'm going renegade for this one

Tali is just as great.  Both had fathers who wanted more for them, but in all honesty, couldn't live up to their own expectations and fell down a dark path which they would never be able to fix for themselves.  Tali has that cute, adorable, naive personaly.  And the fact that we don't know what she looks like under there is a huge draw in, espicialy for the fans.

Tali is part of a family, The Flotila obviously, and she is lost everywhere else.  Until, dun da dun dun, the heroic shepard swoops in and shows her that life in the galaxy isn't hiding in a shell, but being able to climb out of that shell stand up for what you believe and take risks.  This comes to play more with her loyalty mission... although I just don't have the heart to chose any renegade options with her.  She's too adorable.  I mean what can I say that the knowing/sensative reader/listener doesn't know about her already? 4th playthrough... i'm gonna screw up the ME Universe so bad... my 360 will say WTF.

Like i said, I like them both

Modifié par OrionUnas, 06 février 2010 - 12:44 .

[Wrex.the.next.spectre]

Tali is more popular than Miranda although I like Miranda better. I would say Wrex, Garrus, and Mordin are all more popular than Tali. Back on the ME1 forums, Wrex walked away with it while Garrus and Tali battled for 2nd.

[Urazz]

It depends on the kind of popularity, is it as a romance option or as a character overall.  As a romance option, I prefer Miranda since my default Shepard is mix of paragon and renegade and tends to have more in common with her.  I tend to see Tali as my Shepard's kid sister really than anything else due to Mass Effect 1.  In Mass Effect 2, she's grown up but I still see her as a sister type for my Shepard.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Morinth > Tali+Miranda put together, neither of them could give Shep the pleasure she can...



She's a killer queen!

Thermal Clip, Eezo,

Dynamite with a biotic throw

Guaranteed to blow your mind

Anytime!

[Snowraptor]

miranda is only in one game, talis in two, you dont see miranda posts with 7000 replies on it do you.

[nitefyre410]

 

I just played through Scene where  I realized i tiked Miranda , when  she gives  Jack the ( Im the Alpha b*tch  on this ship  f*ck with me and I will space you look)   after you finish Jacks Recuirtment mission The reason i like both Miranda and Tali  they have ALOT more backbone than what you think just by looking at them

Modifié par nitefyre410, 06 février 2010 - 12:51 .

[OrionUnas]

Urazz wrote...

It depends on the kind of popularity, is it as a romance option or as a character overall.  As a romance option, I prefer Miranda since my default Shepard is mix of paragon and renegade and tends to have more in common with her.  I tend to see Tali as my Shepard's kid sister really than anything else due to Mass Effect 1.  In Mass Effect 2, she's grown up but I still see her as a sister type for my Shepard.

I actually agree with some of that.  I also think it kind of depends on my shep character.  But i'm not saying that I want Bioware to change any of the schematics for ME3.  As I posted above though, I like them both, I cna't choose one over the other.

[Snowraptor]

wow realy, i think it comes down to looks also, well i think it realy comes down to character, but i just thought the side view of mirandas bubble but and her toothpic legs turned me down, plus i think miranda is boring

[masterp1975]

Do I want the girl who has daddy issues or the one who wants me to be daddy?

[Exploding8]

Tali has a topic with over 258 pages.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Modifié par Exploding8, 06 février 2010 - 03:37 .

[Cajeb]

Honestly I connected with every damn character in these games. I have so many personal favorites from each game. ME2 really made it hard to choose a fave besides Tali. Tali is my series favorite though. If she was romancable in the first one I might have chosen her over Liara. I barely chose Liara over Ash, I was going for Ash but I fell for Liara. Luckily Bioware made it hella easy for me to rationalize me and Liara as done.



I think Tali has less DAT ASS in this game than before but her personality is so much more. Miranda almost seduced me with her fan service body but I went with Tali and I'm glad I did. My fave character

[Urmar]

Tali's a keeper. But it's hard to avoid staring at Miranda' ******. Just sayin'.



Gimme both. In a hermetically-sealed, clean room scrubbed of all Tali-hatin' microbes.

[ToshiStation38]

I prefer Miranda, but Tali is more popular.



It seems Bioware fans are more drawn to the... lower half of the female anatomy.