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[mundus66]

I think they should show us Female Turians, Female Krogans and mask less Quarians in this. Seriously you where on Tuchanka and no female Krogans? And why aren't they any female Turians? Doesn't make sense.

[smore006]

Ender_118 wrote...

Reveal!

If Tali were the protagonist, see the MasterChief for example, there would be no need to reveal her face. 'I AM Tali, therefore I know exactly what her/my face looks like,' I would be content.
But this isn't the case, If I'm Shepherd, then Tali can get her own face!

You (the player) assume the role of Shepard, that's true. At the same time, Tali gets her own face and Shepard knows how does she look like - there no real need to reveal it to the player since the character being familiar with the face is part of the setup. Keeping it secret from the player just adds to the tension and that's a good thing - only my opinion of course.

With that said, in an interview Casey mentioned that they know how does she looks like and this suggests that they are going to show it to the player, too. Other wise there would be no need for them to know. 

Modifié par smore006, 05 février 2010 - 01:10 .

[quevemare]

Qario wrote...

REVEAL!!!

Has anyone considered that Tali might actually be good looking?

No doubt about that But still, what I like her mostly of is her personality.

[Unato]

I don't mind if they reveal it, it just has to make sense to reveal them. like finding a dead tortured Quarian ( Ascension Novel ), them on their home world or you actually romancing Tali

[Damoadrthade]

harrier25699 wrote...

Reveal, in a tasteful, meaningful way.

This.

[Fulgrim88]

Qario wrote...

REVEAL!!!

Has anyone considered that Tali might actually be good looking?

It's likely that she is. Shepards smile upon revealing her face says it all.

Still i vote conceal. Whatever BioWare comes up with will likely not beat our imagination, plus, at least for me, not being able to see her face has somehow become part of the character.
It's part of the mystery that shrouds her, even moreso after 2 subsequent games where we were not able to see it.

You (the player) assume the role of Shepard, that's true. At the same time, Tali gets her own face and Shepard knows how does does look like - there no real need to reveal it to the player since the character
being familiar with the face is part of the setup. Keeping it secret
from the player just adds to the tension and that's a good thing - only
my opinion of course.

Pretty much this

Modifié par Fulgrim88, 05 février 2010 - 01:05 .

[mundus66]

Kharn-ivor wrote...

SmokePants wrote...

Kharn-ivor wrote...

Lyriq wrote...
 And the type of DNA doesn't really determine that. For example, earth lizards have the same type as humans, they just evolved diferently.

You sir , are correct.


I still think you guys are looking at this the wrong way, when the concept artist or character artist sits down , he dosnt think much about DNA ^^
Its more important for something to look good have personality etc rather than getting the science right, it just wouldnt be much fun other wise.

Then some bloke has to try and fit the codex entrys so they make sence with what the art team came up with ^^

True, but designing a character with features outside of human experience (glowing eyes, for example) will hurt the resonance and connection the human player feels to the character. And things are typically outside of human experience when they don't make real world sense and therefore don't exist. Artistic expression is top order, but functional biology is still a consideration. It has to be.

Oh I agree one cant create a character without thinking about makeing sence to the human audience^^ (never know maybe some aliens picked it up too), but I think DNA is a bit too far

For example the glowing eyes make no sence, eyes (in humans anywayz) capture light , if they were emiting it how the hell wouldnt they blind themselves ? :S  I think the fact they have glowing eyes was that if not the animators would have no way of making them look at things and express emotions.

Actually some animals like certain spiders have glowing eyes. Also cat eyes emit a weak light, which helps them see in the dark.

Modifié par mundus66, 05 février 2010 - 01:07 .

[smore006]

mundus66 wrote...

I think they should show us Female Turians, Female Krogans and mask less Quarians in this. Seriously you where on Tuchanka and no female Krogans? And why aren't they any female Turians? Doesn't make sense.

Shepard has yet to visit places which are heavily populated with Turians - that's a feasible excuse for the lack of Turian females in the game. 

As for the Krogans, have you paid attention when you were on Tuchanka? There's a reason why they are hidden. Krogan females are a valuable 'resource', it's all reasonable to keep them safe and away from the places any visitor is allowed to go to. 

There are the 'in-lore' explanations; realistically speaking, it's not worth the time and resources to create another model for the species if they are not going to get a significant role in the story anyway.

[Xandurpein]

Damoadrthade wrote...

harrier25699 wrote...

Reveal, in a tasteful, meaningful way.

This.

Agreed

[smore006]

mundus66 wrote...
Actually some animals like certain spiders have glowing eyes. Also cat eyes emit a weak light, which helps them see in the dark.

Cats' eyes don't emit any kind of light, they have a reflective layer behind their retina which 'sends' the light back to the eyes so the actual information 'gets processed' multiple times. Off topic, of course.

Modifié par smore006, 05 février 2010 - 01:14 .

[Gocad]

Revealing Tali's face would be a real disappointment. Not knowning what behind that mask is kinda part of Tali's character (and Quarians in general) 

Modifié par Gocad, 05 février 2010 - 01:17 .

[rancid727]

REVEAL as she is dieing from a HEAD SHOT!

[Colonel_Temp]

Eyes act as passive 'sensors' just reacting to light that they absorb. If there is no light, then they won't work. If your eyes produced light however, you could use it to actively see how it reflects off surfaces etc, and see in the otherwise dark. Like Bats and echolocation. The codex also mentions how some other races think the Quarians are cyborgs beneath their suits, which whilst unlikely could be another explanation.

Modifié par Colonel_Temp, 05 février 2010 - 01:20 .

[Kyero]

lol @ people who think their gonna be ugly

[smore006]

@rancid727: Thanks for your most valuable opinion! Good day to you, sir.



@ Colonel_Temp: Most of the people at the time the story takes place have some kind of implants, hence qualifying for being a cyborg. In this sense, even Shepard is one and yes, in this sense, the Quarians can be cyborgs. But they are certainly not Terminator-like cyborgs, and that's been clarified several times, in novels and the games as well.

[Elastica]

I'd say conceal, but I don't really care. I just effing love her, even if it turns out she looks like Darth Malak.

[FlintlockJazz]

smore006 wrote...

@rancid727: Thanks for your most valuable opinion! Good day to you, sir.

@ Colonel_Temp: Most of the people at the time the story takes place have some kind of implants, hence qualifying for being a cyborg. In this sense, even Shepard is one and yes, in this sense, the Quarians can be cyborgs. But they are certainly not Terminator-like cyborgs, and that's been clarified several times, in novels and the games as well.

*Tali walks up to Legion in the AI core wearing sunglasses over her helmet*

'I'll be back!'

*Walks out, and moments later drives a 20th century car into Legion*

Come on, you all know you'd crack up if that happened! 

[cocla]

I vote for REVEAl a Quarian, but CONCEAL Tali.



Like some have said before, I would like to see a Quarian to give our imaginations a nudge in the right direction, so we can have an idea of what Tali looks like but keeps the specifics to what we think.



I for one have a theory that the colours/patterns/scarves (or lack there of) reflect the individual Quarians skin colour and patterns. Since they are always in their armour I think they would customize it so that it reflects how they look, as a way to express individuality in the group centric culture of the flotilla and as a method of telling each other apart.

[Tyreal42a]

Reveal. Why not?



The Quarians are probably the most interesting in the Mass Effect universe to me. Though the Krogan and Geth are in the running. Regardless of how they look, it wouldn't really change my opinion of them. But it would give closure.



As for Tali...I know many seem to have an almost obsessive love of her, but even if she is a video game character, she looks like what she looks like. If someone's opinion of her is lessened significantly by her apperance, rather than personality, I would say their opinion was a shallow one at best.



Using one's imagination for certain things is good. Using it to mentally place the most attractive and perfect image you can come up with to someone's face so you can admire them is, I would argue, rather unhealthy.



If someone came up to me and told me they never wanted to see my face just so they could use their imagination and that was the only way they could love me, and keep a bucket over my head, I think I might be a little offended.

[Naltair]

My money is on them revealing to the player what she looks like in ME3 if she survives. Probably be tied to her LI path.

[Garuda One]

harrier25699 wrote...

Reveal, in a tasteful, meaningful way.

[vigna]

Tali....as she's dying. "Shepard, let me look upon you...with my own eyes."



I could see them doing that so I say conceal...

[Unato]

lawl if any LI die I expect the forum will explode

[smore006]

vigna wrote...

Tali....as she's dying. "Shepard, let me look upon you...with my own eyes."

She's no Darth Vader, mate...
Other than that, most probably she has already seen Shepard's face with her own eyes so it wouldn't be much of a last request.

[vigna]

smore006 wrote...

vigna wrote...

Tali....as she's dying. "Shepard, let me look upon you...with my own eyes."

She's no Darth Vader, mate...
Other than that, most probably she has already seen Shepard's face with her own eyes so it wouldn't be much of a last request.

Hah, no I'm a huge Tali fan...I just don't want a death reveal or some stupid thing like that which would ****** me off.