The 'official' Ashley Williams support thread
#2501
Posté 24 février 2010 - 06:04
#2502
Posté 24 février 2010 - 06:06
lady winde wrote...
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I thought I'd sneak in from the Kaidan support thread to show support for Ashley. We gotta stick together!
I come bearing a peace gift.I hope you guys like it...
She was kinda hard to doodle.
#2503
Posté 24 février 2010 - 06:09
Randy1083 wrote...
I think it would have been fine, but Ashley needs to say something there. Having her just walk away would feel wrong. Maybe something like this...nilamu wrote...
I think this would have mixed effects on people. I would have liked it, but some would have probably hated it for her turning her back on him. Of course those same people already were mad at her for the horizon conversation.trobbins777 wrote...
One possible paragon interrupt for horizon that i think would be awesome:
(Ash turns to leave after chewing shepard out)
(paragon action symbol)
(Shepard grabs Ash's hand as she turns away, but she won't even look at him)
Shepard: Ash, everyone has turned their back on me, Udina, Anderson, the council, the alliance. Please Ash, don't leave me a second time.
( Ash yanks her arm away from him running off. Shepard hangs his head for a moment.)
Shepard: Joker, send the shuttle I've had enough of this colony.
(Ash turns to leave after chewing Shepard out, but Shepard grabs her hand and spinns her back around)
Shepard: Everyone else has turned their backs on me--Udina, Anderson, the Council, the Alliance... Please, Ash, stay with me. I can't lose you, too.
(Ash looks at Shepard for a moment before gently pulling free of his grip, shaking her head)
Ashley: I can't. I just don't know if I can trust you anymore, Shepard. (she starts to turn, but stops briefly) I'm sorry...
(Ash turns and walks off, leaving Shepard behind)
Shepard: Joker, send the shuttle. I've had enough of this colony.
Of course, there should probably be a Renegade option, too, but that wouldn't fit our Ashley-loving theme here.
Ah what the hell I will throw one in:
Ash: You betrayed the alliance....anderson. You betrayed me.
(renegade action symbol)
Shepard (interupts her mid sentence): Don't you ever call me a traitor! I fought, bled, and died for all of you. Now your turning your back on me? I thought if i could trust anyone it would be you.(shepard turns to leave).....I guess what we had died 2 years ago on the normandy.
Ash: shepard-
Shepard (cuts her off while walking away): Joker send the shuttle to pick us up. I've had enough of this colony
#2504
Posté 24 février 2010 - 06:40
I HATE that I can only have Ashley or Kaidan. I always choose to save Kaidan, but I really do like Ashley. She's just a well done character.
And they may have tried hard to get people to cheat, but I thought the picture scene was worth holding out for. It make me feel like what happened in ME1 mattered.
I'm totally cool with Ashley bikini shots, but dayam, those look like some big boobs in that one...! Where would she keep them in her armor?!?
#2505
Posté 24 février 2010 - 06:58
*starts to hyperventilate*
#2506
Posté 24 février 2010 - 07:08
I completely agree, on both counts. Regarding Virmire, and I hold no ill will towards Liara or her fans, but I wish it were possible to leave her behind on Virmire, too. It would have only been fair, since the other two LIs were also delegated for sacrifice. It almost made it seem like Liara was considered 'more important' than Ashley or Kaidan. Liara didn't have to be the only one who knew about Ilos (and frankly, given her relative youth, probably shouldn't have been). It just seems strange that she gets her own special storylines (scientist who helps Shepard discover the Conduit in ME1, information dealer who's after the Shadow Broker in ME2) while Ashley and Kaidan are basically copied and pasted with just a few minor dialogue changes.KealaFerret wrote...
Awesome as always, Winde! I have good timing to drop in.
I HATE that I can only have Ashley or Kaidan. I always choose to save Kaidan, but I really do like Ashley. She's just a well done character.
And they may have tried hard to get people to cheat, but I thought the picture scene was worth holding out for. It make me feel like what happened in ME1 mattered.
#2507
Posté 24 février 2010 - 08:22
Now it's time for me to stop ME2 now until some major DLC comes out. Time to start counting the days until ME3. I'm tempted to try and write a fanfic of experience over both games. Don't know if I have the time or skill for that, but if I do, it will feature Ash heavily of course.
Ah, wish I had a time machine so I could play ME3 already lol
#2508
Posté 24 février 2010 - 09:21
#2509
Posté 24 février 2010 - 09:23
Knightfly wrote...
lady winde wrote...
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I thought I'd sneak in from the Kaidan support thread to show support for Ashley. We gotta stick together!
I come bearing a peace gift.I hope you guys like it...
She was kinda hard to doodle.
Wow, thanks man, very nice indeed, that's a doodle, I couldn't draw that if I had a year to
Yay, thanks Winde!
#2510
Guest_Da Shadow Master_*
Posté 24 février 2010 - 10:28
Guest_Da Shadow Master_*

I havent been able to get on today
I thought it turned out ok but I could be wrong.lol
#2511
Posté 24 février 2010 - 10:56
The choice on Virmire is the most horrible moment in ME1. :-( Saved Ashley the first time, and a few other times, but haven't gotten past the tutorial level in ME2 with any of those imported ME1 characters. To be honest, the cookie-cutter approach that Bioware seems to be taking with Ashley and Kaidan, where each one behaves exactly as the other regardless of the fact that they have very different personalities, makes me feel like it's almost a waste of time to play my "alternative history" version of my canon FemShep (i.e. the one in which she saved Ashley rather than Kaidan). It'll just be her Kaidan ME2 playthrough minus the romance elements. Identical cutscenes and story purposes. Does anyone else feel this shortchanges Ashley and Kaidan a bit?
Anyway, sorry - I probably shouldn't be griping so much. :-) Here's looking forward to an expanded role for Ashley in ME3. :-)
#2512
Posté 24 février 2010 - 10:56
Must... not... waste... post...
A-ha! Fan art by the wonderful Aimo!

<3
Modifié par Estelindis, 24 février 2010 - 10:58 .
#2513
Posté 24 février 2010 - 11:20
I noticed people speculating about the end.
I always though it would be neat to tie the beginning of ME1 with the end of ME3. So do a new shot of the ME1 beginning, with Shepard and (insert LI here) looking at our lovely blue-green planet from the view port of a starship. Anderson can provide the narration once again, which would vary depending on the shape you left the universe in.
Hell, they can tie in the different colored planets/suns from the ME1 and ME2 endings too. Paragon ending is them viewing Earth, Renegade ending is them viewing the (now completely) human controlled Citadel.
#2514
Posté 24 février 2010 - 12:08
#2515
Posté 24 février 2010 - 01:07
#2516
Posté 24 février 2010 - 01:16
When drawing, I find it easier to give detail to dark brown hair than black hair. I imagine I'm not alone.BattleVisor wrote...
Erm what the hell! Ashely has much darker hair than that
#2517
Posté 24 février 2010 - 01:22
#2518
Posté 24 février 2010 - 01:31
Estelindis wrote...
When drawing, I find it easier to give detail to dark brown hair than black hair. I imagine I'm not alone.BattleVisor wrote...
Erm what the hell! Ashely has much darker hair than that
I like it regardless. Alittle artist license is fair enough, I say.
crimsonrhodelia wrote...
Good morning, Ash lovers! Just
stopping by from the Kaidan thread to congratulate you on passing the
100 pages mark. Here's to lots of Virmire survivor content in
ME3!
*Gasp* we passed 100 without hugs?!
Modifié par Doug84, 24 février 2010 - 01:34 .
#2519
Posté 24 février 2010 - 01:35
#2520
Posté 24 février 2010 - 01:35
Mox Ruuga wrote...
With the complete annihilation of Liara by the replacement lead writer, Ash is now my sole #1 LI choice, instead of the tied #1.
I noticed people speculating about the end.
I always though it would be neat to tie the beginning of ME1 with the end of ME3. So do a new shot of the ME1 beginning, with Shepard and (insert LI here) looking at our lovely blue-green planet from the view port of a starship. Anderson can provide the narration once again, which would vary depending on the shape you left the universe in.
Hell, they can tie in the different colored planets/suns from the ME1 and ME2 endings too. Paragon ending is them viewing Earth, Renegade ending is them viewing the (now completely) human controlled Citadel.
Welcome to the fold, Mox
I really like your idea of the ending of ME3 tieing into the beginning of ME1 - so that the game comes full circle. It would be a nice nod to the fans who have been with the series from the get go, and also a nice way to leave things up in the air, so the ending can be whatever you want it to be. Whatever happens with Shep and his/her LI is up to the player.
And woo - 100 pages - fantastic stuff.
Also - I like the cross Kaidan thread support - it's nice that the ME1 LI fans can appreciate the other LI's without having to resort to name calling and b*tching out that seems to afflict the ME2 LI fans.
#2521
Posté 24 février 2010 - 01:38
Midnight Reyn wrote...
Mox Ruuga wrote...
With the complete annihilation of Liara by the replacement lead writer, Ash is now my sole #1 LI choice, instead of the tied #1.
I noticed people speculating about the end.
I always though it would be neat to tie the beginning of ME1 with the end of ME3. So do a new shot of the ME1 beginning, with Shepard and (insert LI here) looking at our lovely blue-green planet from the view port of a starship. Anderson can provide the narration once again, which would vary depending on the shape you left the universe in.
Hell, they can tie in the different colored planets/suns from the ME1 and ME2 endings too. Paragon ending is them viewing Earth, Renegade ending is them viewing the (now completely) human controlled Citadel.
Welcome to the fold, Mox
I really like your idea of the ending of ME3 tieing into the beginning of ME1 - so that the game comes full circle. It would be a nice nod to the fans who have been with the series from the get go, and also a nice way to leave things up in the air, so the ending can be whatever you want it to be. Whatever happens with Shep and his/her LI is up to the player.
And woo - 100 pages - fantastic stuff.
Also - I like the cross Kaidan thread support - it's nice that the ME1 LI fans can appreciate the other LI's without having to resort to name calling and b*tching out that seems to afflict the ME2 LI fans.
Indeedie! Welcome to the fold of Ashley hugging craziness!
And yeah... I don't quite get why these other LI fans are generally so crazy (though I'm a Tali fan too).
#2522
Posté 24 février 2010 - 01:49
Doug84 wrote...
And yeah... I don't quite get why these other LI fans are generally so crazy (though I'm a Tali fan too).
It's weird - it's almost as though you can't like multiple LI's and if you do, then clearly you aren't a fan of any of them.
And it's funny, because you'd think that the only fans who might not like the other's fans are the Ash/Kaidan fans - since depending on your choices you can only have one survive. So invariably only one is alive in your game world, thus cutting off any sort of character development for the others.
But even faced with that choice, there's no animosity between the Ash/Kaidan fans - and in fact we seem to get along the best out of the ME LI fans. Perhaps that's because we each respect the other character. I don't choose to sacrifice Kaidan because I don't like Kaidan, I choose to sacrifice him because he's not Ashley. And I guess the reverse is true for the Kaidan fans.
To be honest - there would be a few characters I'd sacrifice above Kaidan if I had the choice - he was a cool guy, and a good friend to my male shep.
#2523
Posté 24 février 2010 - 01:53
True, true. Also, I think we have neighbouring spots in the gutter ...Midnight Reyn wrote...
Doug84 wrote...
And yeah... I don't quite get why these other LI fans are generally so crazy (though I'm a Tali fan too).
It's weird - it's almost as though you can't like multiple LI's and if you do, then clearly you aren't a fan of any of them.
And it's funny, because you'd think that the only fans who might not like the other's fans are the Ash/Kaidan fans - since depending on your choices you can only have one survive. So invariably only one is alive in your game world, thus cutting off any sort of character development for the others.
But even faced with that choice, there's no animosity between the Ash/Kaidan fans - and in fact we seem to get along the best out of the ME LI fans. Perhaps that's because we each respect the other character. I don't choose to sacrifice Kaidan because I don't like Kaidan, I choose to sacrifice him because he's not Ashley. And I guess the reverse is true for the Kaidan fans.
To be honest - there would be a few characters I'd sacrifice above Kaidan if I had the choice - he was a cool guy, and a good friend to my male shep.
But really, I don't see that as explaining it. Its like "I like Tali. Therefore, MIRANDA SUX!"; hell, I don't like Jack or Jacob (and I know you gals in the Kaidan thread don't like his ...erm....'active' romance (aka seedy)), but I don't decry them as 'suxing'
#2524
Posté 24 février 2010 - 02:01
I'm actually an old time Ash fan from ever since my first playthrough, I just liked both her and the blue girl equally well, up to until poor Liara was destroyed as a character in the comic and (especially) in ME2.
We ME1 LI fans share the same plight, so it's only natural for us to get along. I hope.
Here's hoping Ash and Kaidan get more personalized roles in ME3! I'm sure the broad strokes will be similar, but the devs could at least write them different lines...
I've noticed some speculation on these boards that the ME2 and ME3 noobs might be given a chance to start the romance with Ash/Kaidan/Liara in ME3. While that would rise their status considerably, and guarantee a squad spot IMHO, it would probably unfortunately force us on the same already travelled path of starting and concluding the romance we already went through in ME1. By maintaining that forced tension between Shep and the ME1 LI.
Would be a slap in the face (another one) if the ME2 romances had the natural continuation from where they left off at the end of the second game, and ME1 LIs were forced to "restart" theirs', just because the noobs need to be catered to again.
So Bioware, just make the noobs a couple of new LIs, please? Don't halfass Ash and Kaidan again.
#2525
Posté 24 février 2010 - 02:04
lady winde wrote...
>.>
>.>
I thought I'd sneak in from the Kaidan support thread to show support for Ashley. We gotta stick together!
I come bearing a peace gift.I hope you guys like it...
She was kinda hard to doodle.
That pretty nice, thanks and good job.
Ash and Kaidan fans unite!
Modifié par Funkcase, 24 février 2010 - 02:06 .




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