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I think she'd get along with Garrus and Tali, definitely.



Mordin will grow on her.



The only ones I'd see her to not like or dislike would be Morinth, Thane, and Miranda. I haven't really thought about it though. I know she'd hate Morinth, everyone hates her.

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LuckyIronAxe wrote...

What you guys need is some frest blood, how about this. Of the now twelve members of the Mass Effect 2 party, which members would you think Ash would get along with, make friends with, hate, and so on and so forth. Thoughts?


           If Jacob wouldn't be Cerberus..i'd see Ah and him getting along..both military....also i see her having no problem with former teammates(Garrus and Tali)....
           I don't see why she would have a problem with Thane...wel las long as Thane dosen't do something funny...and she might not care about Grunt much
           Dunno what to think of Jack though..Ashley might thinl it's better to be safe and keep away fro mher then anything....
            Other then that i dunno..though def. problems with Miranda

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KendallX23 wrote...

LuckyIronAxe wrote...

What you guys need is some frest blood, how about this. Of the now twelve members of the Mass Effect 2 party, which members would you think Ash would get along with, make friends with, hate, and so on and so forth. Thoughts?


           If Jacob wouldn't be Cerberus..i'd see Ah and him getting along..both military....also i see her having no problem with former teammates(Garrus and Tali)....
           I don't see why she would have a problem with Thane...wel las long as Thane dosen't do something funny...and she might not care about Grunt much
           Dunno what to think of Jack though..Ashley might thinl it's better to be safe and keep away fro mher then anything....
            Other then that i dunno..though def. problems with Miranda


If Jacob explained his reasoning for joinning up with Cerberus (and Bioware decided to give Ash the chance to listen) I think they would get along swimingly.

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So... I just slaughtered a small village full of elves.

and on that note, I think I will retire. lmao. :lol:


 You evil bastard.....Those were good ,honest ,hard working elves.:crying::P

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Well this thread is a little dead.
I guess I should retire for the night.
Keep on posting,Ash is worth it.
Night.

*salutes*-_-
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Man. Really wish Ashley was a squadmate in Mass Effect 2. I just can't like anyone but Mordin, and I need a second squadmate...

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Her relationship with Tali would largely depend, I think, upon their relationship in ME1 and Shepard's relationship with both of them. I can see a Paragon-influenced or even neutral Ashley being very friendly with Tali, as indicated by the few instances where they banter on the elevators. However, if Shepard reinforced her distrust of non-humans or - worse - romanced first Ashley and then left her for Tali, I can see Ashley and Tali not getting along at all.

Let to the themselves though, I think they'd be friends in both ME1 and ME2.

As for Garrus I think Ashley would, unless Shepard pushed her further towards exophobia, get along pretty well with the turian. They even seem to share much of the same philosophy: that getting the job done is more important than doing it politely or cleanly. Sure, Ashley obeys orders much more easily than Garrus ever could be expected to, but they seem to have more in common and to admire about one another than to fight over. Again, as with Tali, this applies to both games.

Miranda I can see Ashley really not getting along with at all. I'm not even sure why: it's not just that Miranda's part of Cerberus and Ashley sees them (rightfully) as a terrorist threat to the Alliance. It's more than that. I think that, as people, they would genuinely not get along. I think it might just be that Miranda's prim and proper, professional attitude might really grate against Ashley's reckless and free spirited nature. Ashley hates rules and regulations as is and I think she'd really dislike Miranda telling her what she can and can't do it and would misinterpret it as a form of haughty, holier-than-thou arrogance, when in fact, it's just the way Miranda is.

Jacob... I'm at a loss how she would like Jacob. I can see them getting along... okay, I suppose? Personally, I actually like Jacob fine, but he doesn't make a very strong impression, if you know what I mean, other than the fact that he's a nice guy who joined Cerberus more out of frustration than a genuine belief in their ideology. I think Ashley would have issues with him being Cerberus and she might call him naive to follow Cerberus (and he would counter that she's naive if she thinks the Alliance is going to get anything done) but beyond that... I'm not sure. They'd probably both insult Udina and other Alliance politicians and laugh about it though.

I think Ashley would find Mordin really, really weird. I think that would be her main impression of him, alongside maybe a half-joking worry or two that the guy might want to dissect her. She's not really a part of that world and I can't imagine her having much to talk to the salarian about. Of course, everone loves Dr. Solus, so he might have grown on her.

I think Ashley would call BS on Thane's philosophy that he's just the weapon and call that a way of him copping out of responsibility. Given time, they might get along, but I think she'd have serious issues with a paid assassin who, while feeling clear remorse his killings, diverts responsibility to others for his killings. They might find something to bond about in regards to religion, however. She would, of course, likely disagree with his theology but I think she's open-minded enough that she'd consider it an interesting topic to discuss.

I can see Ashley being simultaneously wary and supportive of Samara's presence on the ship. On the one hand, she'd probably like her philosophy in principle while cautiously suggesting she didn't like the idea of an asari who paid no heed to law or circumstance in killing those she deemed unjust. I don't she'd really worry that she'd be a target of Samara's, but she might warn Shepard that Samara was dangerous. If the player sided with Morinth (for whatever idiotic reason) she'd probably notice something was off and watch Samara for trouble.

Ashley and Jack... I can actually see getting along really, really well, so long as they're not in competition for Shepard. After all, Ashley hates Cerberus... and so does Jack (though for completely different reasons). Likewise, Ashley and Jack share many of the traits, both being tough women with a vulnerable interior who don't like to rely on anyone else but secretly admire Shepard for sticking up for them. I think their friendship would very much be the vitriolic kind - where they yell and insult one another for hours on end and then, when things get heavy, they cover eachother's rear, promising that if the other dies, they'll kill them.

I'm honestly not sure what Ashley would think of Grunt. She'd probably think he was dangerous and that Shepard should watch him quickly, but given that Grunt never once (after he forms his pact with Shepard) shows any signs of disloyalty to Shepard, I can't imagine her holding on to this opinion for long. Like Mordin, she'd probably think he was really weird.

Zaeed would probably strike Ashley initially as a self-important old war veteran who thinks he has all the answers but is just full of crap. I think though, he'd grow on her. They have a similar sense of humor and, if you paragon Zaeed during his loyalty mission, I have a sense he would ease up in a way Ashley could grow to like. I could imagine them cleaning guns together as a form of "warrior bonding."

I think Ashley would find Kasumi to be out of her element and sort of an oddball. She'd probably wonder why Shepard bothered recruiting her given her complete lack of military discipline or composure, though she'd also admit that her invisibility technology might come in handy. For her part, Kasumi would probably love Ashley and say fangirly things about her and the gunnery chief just as she does about Shepard and any possible LI.

And as for Legion... easy. Ashley would distrust him and could very easily supplant Tali in a confrontation with him. Ashley was at Eden Prime. She saw her squad murdered by geth. She fought them throughout ME1. She has little reason to trust his motives and given her opinions about non-humans in generall and AI in particular, I doubt she'd be willing to give him much of a chance. She might grow to tolerate Legion, but I doubt she'd ever like him.

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Damn Nivenus, now that's what I like to see, haha, well it's way too late right now, but I will get back to you on some of my opinions with your ideas, nice job!

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drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Alright, I'm back. Also, Rune, you deleted your new account and brought back the old?

Yes.

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If you are a lurker here, I want to hear from you and why you like Ashley! (If you don't like her, well then what in the deep-fried Twinkies are you doing here?)

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Nivenus wrote...
Miranda I can see Ashley really not getting along with at all. I'm not even sure why: it's not just that Miranda's part of Cerberus and Ashley sees them (rightfully) as a terrorist threat to the Alliance. It's more than that. I think that, as people, they would genuinely not get along. I think it might just be that Miranda's prim and proper, professional attitude might really grate against Ashley's reckless and free spirited nature. Ashley hates rules and regulations as is and I think she'd really dislike Miranda telling her what she can and can't do it and would misinterpret it as a form of haughty, holier-than-thou arrogance, when in fact, it's just the way Miranda is.

Miranda and Ashley are both strong women, but apart from that they're almost polar opposites in terms of personality. Ashley's fire - spontaneous, occasionally reckless, openly passionate - vs. Miranda's ice  -detached, calm, calculating, with carefully hidden emotions. Then there's the science vs. faith angle, where they'd also conflict. On the other side, both value family in spite of very different experiences.

I think they might come to respect each other, especially if Miranda leaves Cerberus, but they'll probably never like each other.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Nivenus wrote...
Miranda I can see Ashley really not getting along with at all. I'm not even sure why: it's not just that Miranda's part of Cerberus and Ashley sees them (rightfully) as a terrorist threat to the Alliance. It's more than that. I think that, as people, they would genuinely not get along. I think it might just be that Miranda's prim and proper, professional attitude might really grate against Ashley's reckless and free spirited nature. Ashley hates rules and regulations as is and I think she'd really dislike Miranda telling her what she can and can't do it and would misinterpret it as a form of haughty, holier-than-thou arrogance, when in fact, it's just the way Miranda is.

Miranda and Ashley are both strong women, but apart from that they're almost polar opposites in terms of personality. Ashley's fire - spontaneous, occasionally reckless, openly passionate - vs. Miranda's ice  -detached, calm, calculating, with carefully hidden emotions. Then there's the science vs. faith angle, where they'd also conflict. On the other side, both value family in spite of very different experiences.

I think they might come to respect each other, especially if Miranda leaves Cerberus, but they'll probably never like each other.


As I am so fond of saying, she'd definitely be pulling out the "Who put you in charge? Did the Commander resign when i wasn't looking?" line on more than one occasion. Which, of course, would bother Miranda, and leave Shepard to sort out the mess.:whistle: They might learn to tolerate each other, but get along?

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Then again, put the two of them in a shopping mall together and who knows what would happen. Ashley could be borrowing Shepard's credit card, and Miranda TIM's.

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Personally I see, Ash and Miranda as being very similar, but very different at the same time, like two sides of the same coin.



Yes, they have different personality's and beliefs, but both are similar in that neither will compromise on them, both are incredibly loyal to those who they respect and both are willing to go to any length to complete their objectives.



Even If Ash and Miranda weren't able to agree with each other, I can still see them having respect for each other, as at the end of the day, both are trying to do what is best for humanity.

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*Yawn*

Morning Ash Fans....going to get me some coffee.

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Hey everyone! Anything happening?

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Darkchylde wrote...

Hey everyone! Anything happening?

not much at the moment and I'm still waking up.

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Da Shadow Master wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

So... I just slaughtered a small village full of elves.

and on that note, I think I will retire. lmao. :lol:


 You evil bastard.....Those were good ,honest ,hard working elves.:crying::P


It was GLORIOUS! The only one I regretted killing was lentaya, because she was voiced by kimberly brooks...

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epoch_ wrote...

Da Shadow Master wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

So... I just slaughtered a small village full of elves.

and on that note, I think I will retire. lmao. :lol:


 You evil bastard.....Those were good ,honest ,hard working elves.:crying::P


It was GLORIOUS! The only one I regretted killing was lentaya, because she was voiced by kimberly brooks...

Just remember

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Yes I know I'm bad.

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Choosing the evil options is so much more satisfying in this game.

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epoch_ wrote...

Choosing the evil options is so much more satisfying in this game.


It is fun being evil in DAO, the most evil thing I ever did was...

DAO SPOILERS!


I sided with the werewolves and got them all turned human again but then killed them anyway for the hell of it. I felt so evil, but it sure was fun.

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andysilv87 wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

Choosing the evil options is so much more satisfying in this game.


It is fun being evil in DAO, the most evil thing I ever did was...

DAO SPOILERS!


I sided with the werewolves and got them all turned human again but then killed them anyway for the hell of it. I felt so evil, but it sure was fun.



YOu dont get an army if you do that though, right?

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Uh, off-topic much?

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epoch_ wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

Choosing the evil options is so much more satisfying in this game.


It is fun being evil in DAO, the most evil thing I ever did was...

DAO SPOILERS!


I sided with the werewolves and got them all turned human again but then killed them anyway for the hell of it. I felt so evil, but it sure was fun.



YOu dont get an army if you do that though, right?

DAO forums to the left...its the same as the stage exit.

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So, number one thing Ashley would splurge on if she got hold of Shepard's credit card?