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The 'official' Ashley Williams support thread
#28376
Posté 30 avril 2010 - 11:57
#28377
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:00
Just screwed up on my Loyal run, But it COULD work out to my advantage.
I like Jack a lot. I triggered the fight between Jack and Miranda too early, though in my first 2 or 3 playthroughs, the timing i had would have been fine.
Summarize: I lost Miranda's loyalty and now she is going to die on Suicide Mission. I kind of want all characters +Kasumi and Zaeed to survive, so I can have the potential option of importing them all into ME3, But I already have that set up with non Loyal runs.
Do I lose the option of a Miranda romance in ME3 and potentially lose the character on my loyal run or not? I REALLY do not want to recruit Samara for the 6th time.
Keep in mind, as previously stated, Ill have Miranda in 5 other potential runs.
#28378
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:03
Adios Liam!LiamN7 wrote...
Well I am gonna run. I think I need to play.
Hold the line. Ash is worth it.
#28379
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:05
Well if this not your main Shep then you might as-wel go for it and see where it gets you. If you are staying loyal you don't need her LI plot. I had Jack as an LI in my Evil play through I did her loyalty mission but missed an upgrade for the Normandy so she was killed anyway but the LI seen still played before that.Hepzi3 wrote...
I have a conundrum that you all are going to help me solve hopefully.
Just screwed up on my Loyal run, But it COULD work out to my advantage.
I like Jack a lot. I triggered the fight between Jack and Miranda too early, though in my first 2 or 3 playthroughs, the timing i had would have been fine.
Summarize: I lost Miranda's loyalty and now she is going to die on Suicide Mission. I kind of want all characters +Kasumi and Zaeed to survive, so I can have the potential option of importing them all into ME3, But I already have that set up with non Loyal runs.
Do I lose the option of a Miranda romance in ME3 and potentially lose the character on my loyal run or not? I REALLY do not want to recruit Samara for the 6th time.
Keep in mind, as previously stated, Ill have Miranda in 5 other potential runs.
#28380
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:06
Miranda is pretty much the hardest to kill. Just make Garrus squad leader and leave her at the barricade and she''l be fine. Also, if your Paragon/Renegade meter is high enough you can regain her lost loyalty.Hepzi3 wrote...
I have a conundrum that you all are going to help me solve hopefully.
Just screwed up on my Loyal run, But it COULD work out to my advantage.
I like Jack a lot. I triggered the fight between Jack and Miranda too early, though in my first 2 or 3 playthroughs, the timing i had would have been fine.
Summarize: I lost Miranda's loyalty and now she is going to die on Suicide Mission. I kind of want all characters +Kasumi and Zaeed to survive, so I can have the potential option of importing them all into ME3, But I already have that set up with non Loyal runs.
Do I lose the option of a Miranda romance in ME3 and potentially lose the character on my loyal run or not? I REALLY do not want to recruit Samara for the 6th time.
Keep in mind, as previously stated, Ill have Miranda in 5 other potential runs.
#28381
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:07
#28382
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:13
#28383
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:19
Well, you can talk to her after a certain point and say something magical and everything's suddenly hunky-dory again. I can't remember what, I've never had to do it.Hepzi3 wrote...
Pyro, How in the high hell do you do that? Damn, If I knew that, i could have finished this run hours ago.
#28384
Guest_yfhfrg_*
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:25
Guest_yfhfrg_*
#28385
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:26
drunken pyromaniac wrote...
Well, you can talk to her after a certain point and say something magical and everything's suddenly hunky-dory again. I can't remember what, I've never had to do it.Hepzi3 wrote...
Pyro, How in the high hell do you do that? Damn, If I knew that, i could have finished this run hours ago.
I actually just had the Jack/Miranda fight two seconds ago. Despite having far more paragon then renegade points, I only got the renegade option and managed to keep them both loyal, however if you side with one, if your paragon/renegade points are high enough you can regain the loyalty of the other.
From the Wiki:
Confrontation with Jack
After gaining the loyalty of both Miranda and Jack, the
next time Shepard boards the Normandy Joker will radio in about a fight
aboard the ship. Jack wants Miranda to admit what was done to her by
Cerberus was wrong, but Miranda refuses to acknowledge that Cerberus was
at fault claiming it was a splinter group, not Cerberus, calling the
shots.
Choosing one will lose you the loyalty of the other and the
chance for romance with them so pick wisely. They do however still keep
their alternate outfit and additional skills. Alternatively, if your
Paragon or Renegade scores are high enough, you can choose an option
favoring neither person and keep the loyalty of both.
If you choose one of them, you can afterwards regain the other's
loyalty provided you have a very high Paragon or Renegade score. The
chance for romance, however, is lost.
#28386
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:29
Thanks for posting that, I should probably do that route once or twice. I just always do Miranda's near the end so I've never had a problem.
#28387
Guest_yfhfrg_*
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:30
Guest_yfhfrg_*
#28388
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:33
*whispers*yfhfrg wrote...
I actually think it's easier earlier on. When you get those scenes early, you don't need as many points.
I just don't like Miranda so I don't care enough to do it earlier.
Though I'm doing a Miranda romancing playthrough to see what all the fuss is about.
Modifié par drunken pyromaniac, 01 mai 2010 - 12:33 .
#28389
Guest_yfhfrg_*
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:36
Guest_yfhfrg_*
drunken pyromaniac wrote...
*whispers*
I just don't like Miranda so I don't care enough to do it earlier.
Though I'm doing a Miranda romancing playthrough to see what all the fuss is about.
Me too! *high fives*
Although if you do the romance, you don't want to do miri's mission last in this run. Being far enough along in the romance will mean no para/renegade options in the confrontation.
#28390
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:39
Thank you Captain Obvious, I figured that out on my own.yfhfrg wrote...
Me too! *high fives*I'm keeping my shep away from Jack this time.
Although if you do the romance, you don't want to do miri's mission last in this run. Being far enough along in the romance will mean no para/renegade options in the confrontation.
Jack's loyalty mission is going later this time.
#28391
Guest_Da Shadow Master_*
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:41
Guest_Da Shadow Master_*
drunken pyromaniac wrote...
*whispers*yfhfrg wrote...
I actually think it's easier earlier on. When you get those scenes early, you don't need as many points.
I just don't like Miranda so I don't care enough to do it earlier.
Though I'm doing a Miranda romancing playthrough to see what all the fuss is about.
*Peeks in,sees this blasphemy,takes notes* I hatez you:mellow::ph34r:both of you.*leaves*
#28392
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:42
I'm giving her a chance, goddamnit!Da Shadow Master wrote...
*Peeks in,sees this blasphemy,takes notes* I hatez you:mellow::ph34r:both of you.*leaves*
#28393
Guest_yfhfrg_*
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:42
Guest_yfhfrg_*
drunken pyromaniac wrote...
Thank you Captain Obvious, I figured that out on my own.
Jack's loyalty mission is going later this time.
Later? You mean after the suicide mission? You've confused me.
*Captain Obvious Away!!*
#28394
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:43
No, just two or three missons before the derelict reaper. like I've always done.yfhfrg wrote...
Later? You mean after the suicide mission? You've confused me.
*Captain Obvious Away!!*
Modifié par drunken pyromaniac, 01 mai 2010 - 12:44 .
#28395
Guest_yfhfrg_*
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:46
Guest_yfhfrg_*
Da Shadow Master wrote...
*Peeks in,sees this blasphemy,takes notes* I hatez you:mellow::ph34r:both of you.*leaves*
Be dat way then. And take Miri witcha. Don't let the door hit her in her big arse on the way out.
#28396
Guest_yfhfrg_*
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:48
Guest_yfhfrg_*
drunken pyromaniac wrote...
No, just two or three missons before the derelict reaper. like I've always done.
But but... if you're romancing Miri at the time, you'll still have lose Jack's loyalty.
#28397
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:51
No, I've never lost the loyalty of either Jack or Miranda. The paragon choice fixes everything!yfhfrg wrote...
drunken pyromaniac wrote...
No, just two or three missons before the derelict reaper. like I've always done.
But but... if you're romancing Miri at the time, you'll still have lose Jack's loyalty.
#28398
Guest_yfhfrg_*
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:54
Guest_yfhfrg_*
#28399
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:55
#28400
Posté 01 mai 2010 - 12:56
Probably. I've heard it's easier when you import. All my Sheps are imports and I've never lost either's loyalty.yfhfrg wrote...
idk, my first game I lost Jack's loyalty being only one or two steps into the Mirimance, and even at full paragon I couldn't get it back (even after dumping miri). I heard that was the norm, but maybe it was bugged.




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