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[Jhon Flash]

Jesusland wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

Ashley is absolutely flat. She's one of the poorest characters ever designed by Bioware. In the attepmt to make her a "fiery, self confident woman" they went overboard and managed to turn her into a barking dog. Even her (few) emotional moments were just awkward as a result.
Honestly the fact that her role in ME2 was negligible was good riddance. Hopefully she will have an equally secondary role in ME3.

My thoughts exactly.  Why do "confident" women always have to be portrayed as ****es. 

I think I have the answer.

[trobbins777]

Jesusland wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

Ashley is absolutely flat. She's one of the poorest characters ever designed by Bioware. In the attepmt to make her a "fiery, self confident woman" they went overboard and managed to turn her into a barking dog. Even her (few) emotional moments were just awkward as a result.
Honestly the fact that her role in ME2 was negligible was good riddance. Hopefully she will have an equally secondary role in ME3.

My thoughts exactly.  Why do "confident" women always have to be portrayed as ****es. 

Look i respect your opinion (though i thoroughly disagree with it). But some of us actually like Ash. Why? Because a) she has flaws that make her a believable character she is a strong woman that has fought for a place in the alliance even though she is blacklisted c) The developers didn't turn her into a sex toy to be shown off with many convieniently placed camera angles(I won't mention any names) and d) Awkwardness is always present in love.Thats what makes Tali so adorable (see her 5000 page forum).

[VutaatVerd]

trobbins777 wrote...

Jesusland wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

Ashley is absolutely flat. She's one of the poorest characters ever designed by Bioware. In the attepmt to make her a "fiery, self confident woman" they went overboard and managed to turn her into a barking dog. Even her (few) emotional moments were just awkward as a result.
Honestly the fact that her role in ME2 was negligible was good riddance. Hopefully she will have an equally secondary role in ME3.

My thoughts exactly.  Why do "confident" women always have to be portrayed as ****es. 

Look i respect your opinion (though i thoroughly disagree with it). But some of us actually like Ash. Why? Because a) she has flaws that make her a believable character she is a strong woman that has fought for a place in the alliance even though she is blacklisted c) The developers didn't turn her into a sex toy to be shown off with many convieniently placed camera angles(I won't mention any names) and d) Awkwardness is always present in love.Thats what makes Tali so adorable (see her 5000 page forum).

Well you cannot please everyone, lucky for them bioware made some Eye and Kid candy in ME2

[Errol Dnamyx]

Miranda might be eye candy when you first see her, but there is much more to her than that.
She is pretty awesome if you take your time to understand her point of view and history. Her support thread is very enjoyable too.
But Ash is still #1.

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 20 mai 2010 - 05:56 .

[trobbins777]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Miranda might be eye candy when you first see her, but there is much more to her than that.
She is pretty awesome if you take your time to understand her point of view and history. Her support thread is very enjoyable too.
But Ash is still #1.

I didn't mean she isn't a good character. It's the developers fault for showing her off like that. It takes the realism out of it for me

[Gundar3]

Im starting to actually enjoy Miranda's character more and more. Theres actually a lot of subtlety in her writing, its just that the subtlety is overshadowed by the camera angles sometimes. In the end, even though Ash would definitely be with me for pretty much everything, I would delegate Miranda as my "second" on the Normandy.

[TobiTobsen]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...
But Ash is still #1.

qft!

I want my Ashley back!

[RazerPhoenix]

Personally I really like Miranda, and I would have thought that Ash fans would be the people most likely to understand and appreciate Miranda's character.

A character who at face value is easily written off as being one thing, but if you look closer and take time to get to know them properly, it turns out there is alot more to them and they much deeper than people give them credit for.

Sound familiar?

[ashlover mark 2]

tsss ****ing tolls came back i see,let me guess the used the words rascits and **** in the same arguement right????

[ashlover mark 2]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Hello everyone. *waves*
Looks a little militant in here.

i like militant....militant gets the job done  

[epoch_]

RazerPhoenix wrote...

Personally I really like Miranda, and I would have thought that Ash fans would be the people most likely to understand and appreciate Miranda's character.

A character who at face value is easily written off as being one thing, but if you look closer and take time to get to know them properly, it turns out there is alot more to them and they much deeper than people give them credit for.

Sound familiar?

I can't get past her face or the way she dresses. Sorry. I don't dislike her, but I just can't like her. And I've tried.

[ashlover mark 2]

miranda really bugged me in the beginig beacuz she was a real **** for like the first hour of the game. but once she warmed up i found out that she was a nice charecter and a worthy seacond in command.

[SilverRose208]

I think the thing that bugs me most about Miranda is that you see a real change in her character as she warms up to Shep... and then during the final mission at the Collector base, she's back to being kind of over-confident, smug, and if you listen to her, you get a member of your team killed. I think she's a great character, it's just that little 180 at the end rubs me the wrong way.

[KendallX23]

SilverRose208 wrote...

I think the thing that bugs me most about Miranda is that you see a real change in her character as she warms up to Shep... and then during the final mission at the Collector base, she's back to being kind of over-confident, smug, and if you listen to her, you get a member of your team killed. I think she's a great character, it's just that little 180 at the end rubs me the wrong way.

        i don't remember this...what does she say and where ?

[ashlover mark 2]

SilverRose208 wrote...

I think the thing that bugs me most about Miranda is that you see a real change in her character as she warms up to Shep... and then during the final mission at the Collector base, she's back to being kind of over-confident, smug, and if you listen to her, you get a member of your team killed. I think she's a great character, it's just that little 180 at the end rubs me the wrong way.

what do you mean??? at the end is where i think her charecter shines the most,when you get ready too go she says shes impressed and actually salutes you (something she dose not do in the beging out of a lack of respect for you) and if you pick her too lead the 2nd fire team she salutes you again and says she wont let you down and leads the seacond team well (the only other who can do that is garrus) and if you take her too fight the human reaper and decided to destroy the base she takes shep's side over the illusive man.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 20 mai 2010 - 07:44 .

[KendallX23]

exactly...i don't remember Miranda making a bad decision..or even asking u to make one...

[SilverRose208]

The thing about the biotic... She practically volunteers herself and says "any biotic can do it" - which isn't exactly the case. But, I could just be misreading it.

[ashlover mark 2]

SilverRose208 wrote...

The thing about the biotic... She practically volunteers herself and says "any biotic can do it" - which isn't exactly the case. But, I could just be misreading it.

she says "in Theory"

[KendallX23]

yeap..she says in theory....she is a biotic too afterall

[SilverRose208]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

SilverRose208 wrote...

The thing about the biotic... She practically volunteers herself and says "any biotic can do it" - which isn't exactly the case. But, I could just be misreading it.

she says "in Theory"

Yeah, that's true.  I dunno.  Something about it just rubbed me the wrong way.  You did raise some good points earlier.  Admittedly, I've only actually finished ME2 once, and I had forgotten about the salute(s).

[KendallX23]

SilverRose208 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

SilverRose208 wrote...

The thing about the biotic... She practically volunteers herself and says "any biotic can do it" - which isn't exactly the case. But, I could just be misreading it.

she says "in Theory"

Yeah, that's true.  I dunno.  Something about it just rubbed me the wrong way.  You did raise some good points earlier.  Admittedly, I've only actually finished ME2 once, and I had forgotten about the salute(s).

i don't remember her saluting me..maybe it was too fast for me to see it..

[VutaatVerd]

epoch_ wrote...

RazerPhoenix wrote...

Personally I really like Miranda, and I would have thought that Ash fans would be the people most likely to understand and appreciate Miranda's character.

A character who at face value is easily written off as being one thing, but if you look closer and take time to get to know them properly, it turns out there is alot more to them and they much deeper than people give them credit for.

Sound familiar?

I can't get past her face or the way she dresses. Sorry. I don't dislike her, but I just can't like her. And I've tried.

That makes two of us Epoch.

[ashlover mark 2]

@silver its kool you dont have too like her,this is the ashley thread after all XD

@Kendall she salutes you twice,once when you initiate the sucide mission and again when you choose her too lead the 2nd fire team.

EDIT: my powers of observation are very good,i pay very close attention too things.i ussaly win alot of arguments and debates.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 20 mai 2010 - 08:06 .

[Collider]

I do like Ashley at least a little more than Miranda. Miranda's more morally ambiguous than Ash is.

[ashlover mark 2]

Collider wrote...

I do like Ashley at least a little more than Miranda. Miranda's more morally ambiguous than Ash is.

i noticed that aswell,i didnt apreacite her thorwing all the Cerberous PR bull**** at me like i was gonna fall for it or something.